LA Surf Implodes

So this press release is Surf admitting their affiliates are a REC program.....NJ Surf will have the teams and name below ECNL level and Match Fit Academy will have the name and run the ECNL program........but it really is about being The Best of the Best, not $$, you got that haters!!!!???? It is almost like this week with the three announcements has just been made up as an early April fools...... :p
 
Soccer43 said:
Yes, but I bet they were hoping to poach players to fluff up their DA teams - remember none of the DA teams were that strong so it seems like it would be difficult to recruit
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At least on the boys side, it really isn't very difficult to recruit for the DA, even if your teams isn't that great, it's still the DA. They can poach players whether they're affiliated with the club or not. The only advantage to having a larger club is for part time players who get to play with their club team and some games on the DA.
 
espola said:
Interesting theory, that rates a half a coocoo --

Coo.
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I know you live in Poway (by your own statements in the past) and believe you know all about SD soccer scene but you really owe it to yourself to do some due diligence before dismissing some information that you may not be aware of. You may be surprised to see what is really going on....
 
focomoso said:
At least on the boys side, it really isn't very difficult to recruit for the DA, even if your teams isn't that great, it's still the DA. They can poach players whether they're affiliated with the club or not. The only advantage to having a larger club is for part time players who get to play with their club team and some games on the DA.
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You definitely see the latter phenomenon this year among the boys DA clubs with a large number of affiliates. For instance, just in Boys U14, LA Surf, Pateadores, and FC Golden State all have added PT players between the end of league season and Nat'l club, some from affiliates that aren't particularly close to where the DA team practices. It helps the DA teams with injuries etc., but it allows top kids at the affiliate clubs a chance to get a taste of DA and a chance to develop/impress without leaving their club teams high and dry right before Nat'l Cup
 
mirage said:
I know you live in Poway (by your own statements in the past) and believe you know all about SD soccer scene but you really owe it to yourself to do some due diligence before dismissing some information that you may not be aware of. You may be surprised to see what is really going on....
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I rated it as only half crazy, so you could say that I half believe it to be true. The Surf Cup operation disconnected from SD Surf long before I was interested in those things, and the evolution into Surf Cup Sports looks like material for a book someone on the inside should write someday.

I am pretty much disconnected from local youth soccer except through my niece, whose team's games are usually too far away for me to go watch (unless they get some local National Cup games). She passed on the chance to play HS JV because the scheduling required missing some of her tougher classes in order to get out early enough for the bus rides, among other things.

And I don't live in Poway any more (although houses over the city line are visible from my street), my son moved away so he doesn't play, coach, or ref around here anymore, and I had to give up the high school volunteer work because of my health.
 
Soccerhelper said:
It's not just LA, OC has some news I'm sure will hit the wire soon. @RedCard do you think parents will wait it out til May 31st?
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I just think when the DA season ends on MAY 31st, all hell will break out (IMO). It's just like the same scenario last year when news hit the day after the DA season ended that LAP was coming on board. That's when parents; especially those who were with LAP in the past; got upset. In regards to the SGV Surf teams, I can see them not waiting until June 1st as those teams are in the National Cup which starts in early April. They will probably bolt right after the National Cup. But I will have a huge bag of popcorn next to me on June 1st, that's for damn sure...
 
Soccerhelper said:
Yes, but that is pure speculation on my part based on what I've heard. It's interesting that all this is happening right after the meetings in Nashville.
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Given how helpful you have become, please tell us what you’ve heard and why it’s going to create all the movement. Don’t leave us hangin’...
 
timbuck said:
More than the age group change?
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2020 has been changing and facing change for 6 years, but they are headed to college and it is what it is. The 2021 and forward are going to have to get a grip. Youngers are good. Olders are stressed. So many rule changes, yet early recruits. And then we have club changes and coaching changes. Take your time peeps. Just take your time. Let your player figure out their place and focus and go with it. Trust in your player, since most clubs seem to only trust in the $.
 
CopaMundial said:
2020 has been changing and facing change for 6 years, but they are headed to college and it is what it is. The 2021 and forward are going to have to get a grip. Youngers are good. Olders are stressed. So many rule changes, yet early recruits. And then we have club changes and coaching changes. Take your time peeps. Just take your time. Let your player figure out their place and focus and go with it. Trust in your player, since most clubs seem to only trust in the $.
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I agree 2023 and younger are all good. What US Soccer/DA/Surf Cup Sports pulled on all of us was horrible. I told everyone we will see later. 2020 and 2021 have had it the worse. Let's all go back to memory lane shall we....
2016-2017 age groups 02/03 and 03/04 School year. All is good for most except those at Legends and Beach
2017-2018 Age groups 04, 03 and 02/01 Birth year change (Change teams)
2018/2019 Age group 04, 02/03. Combo meal for 02/03 (03 and 02 change teams again)
2019/2020 Age groups 04, 03 Back to single band (change again) Beach, Legends and Surfing USA are the happy ones. Can you all see who the winners are and the losers?
Now what? What are they all cooking up in da kitchen with all the chefs? They don;t care about your kid. They only care about getting more sign ups and more affiliates so they can make more $$$$ and grow franchises like Ray Kroc did when he took the best burgers and ice cream shakes that were made with real ice cream and took McDonald's across the county. Kroc didn;t know how to "develop" good food, only a salesman and he is now the Founder? He decided to make fake ice cream so he could sell more franchises faster. He wanted everything sped up fast so HE could make more money. He also hustled the two cooks who actually invented the best burgers west of the Mississippi. Go watch the founder and tell me how the soccer business is any different.
 
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RedCard said:
I just think when the DA season ends on MAY 31st, all hell will break out (IMO). It's just like the same scenario last year when news hit the day after the DA season ended that LAP was coming on board. That's when parents; especially those who were with LAP or oin the past; got upset. In regards to the SGV Surf teams, I can see them not waiting until June 1st as those teams are in the National Cup which starts in early April. They will probably bolt right after the National Cup. But I will have a huge bag of popcorn next to me on June 1st, that's for damn sure...
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DA runs through June into to July for playoffs. Players come/go until August when the rosters start to populate.
 
sdb said:
Given how helpful you have become, please tell us what you’ve heard and why it’s going to create all the movement. Don’t leave us hangin’...
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"oh my God did I try to Help us all.......I tried all the time....in this soccer institution. Oh my God, I pray every single day for a revolution in soccer."
I think we will have a good understanding of what the hell is going to take place shortly. If no news this weekend, I will share my speculation for 2020-2021 season :)
 
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Soccerhelper said:
I agree 2023 and younger are all good. What US Soccer/DA/Surf Cup Sports pulled on all of us was horrible. I told everyone we will see later. 2020 and 2021 have had it the worse. Let's all go back to memory lane shall we....
2016-2017 age groups 02/03 and 03/04 School year. All is good for most except those at Legends and Beach
2017-2018 Age groups 04, 03 and 02/01 Birth year change (Change teams)
2018/2019 Age group 04, 02/03. Combo meal for 02/03 (03 and 02 change teams again)
2019/2020 Age groups 04, 03 Back to single band (change again) Beach, Legends and Surfing USA are the happy ones. Can you all see who the winners are and the losers?
Now what? What are they all cooking up in da kitchen with all the chefs? They don;t care about your kid. They only care about getting more sign ups and more affiliates so they can make more $$$$ and grow franchises like Ray Kroc did when he took the best burgers and ice cream shakes that were made with real ice cream and took McDonald's across the county. Kroc didn;t know how to "develop" good food, only a salesman and he is now the Founder? He decided to make fake ice cream so he could sell more franchises faster. He wanted everything sped up fast so HE could make more money. He also hustled the two cooks who actually invented the best burgers west of the Mississippi. Go watch the founder and tell me how the soccer business is any different.
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McDonald's has the best burgers? I must have missed that part of their history. As I recall, their marketing was based on fast and cheap, with the clown as an afterthought.
 
futboldad1 said:
That's like saying the 2016 Browns were stronger than the 2017 Browns....they still weak lol

But to be more accurate the u17 (03) and u14 (06) OC Surf teams are both just ahead of the LA Surf teams....LA Surf is just ahead in u15, u16 and u18/19.......soccer 43 is right about game played.....BUT both club's teams are nearer the bottom than the top of the standings and it's pretty clear these two mostly represent $$ with the SD teams the only ones actually doing business on the field.......
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Remember to look at the teams they have already played in addition to the number of games. If you are playing only the bottom half up until now and another team is playing the top half, that also screws up the "comparison".
espola said:
McDonald's has the best burgers? I must have missed that part of their history. As I recall, their marketing was based on fast and cheap, with the clown as an afterthought.
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Don't forget that the 03's also got screwed by NCAA rules. Most 02's weren't affected, 04's were still freshman, 03's rushing to commit before the rule change while leaving many 03's just beginning the process.
Soccerhelper said:
I agree 2023 and younger are all good. What US Soccer/DA/Surf Cup Sports pulled on all of us was horrible. I told everyone we will see later. 2020 and 2021 have had it the worse. Let's all go back to memory lane shall we....
2016-2017 age groups 02/03 and 03/04 School year. All is good for most except those at Legends and Beach
2017-2018 Age groups 04, 03 and 02/01 Birth year change (Change teams)
2018/2019 Age group 04, 02/03. Combo meal for 02/03 (03 and 02 change teams again)
2019/2020 Age groups 04, 03 Back to single band (change again) Beach, Legends and Surfing USA are the happy ones. Can you all see who the winners are and the losers?
Now what? What are they all cooking up in da kitchen with all the chefs? They don;t care about your kid. They only care about getting more sign ups and more affiliates so they can make more $$$$ and grow franchises like Ray Kroc did when he took the best burgers and ice cream shakes that were made with real ice cream and took McDonald's across the county. Kroc didn;t know how to "develop" good food, only a salesman and he is now the Founder? He decided to make fake ice cream so he could sell more franchises faster. He wanted everything sped up fast so HE could make more money. He also hustled the two cooks who actually invented the best burgers west of the Mississippi. Go watch the founder and tell me how the soccer business is any different.
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Don't forget to add in the NCAA rule changes! It didn't affect 02's because they were older, 03's got screwed, 04's were younger and just beginning the process and it probably helped them, gave them more time.
 
Soccerhelper said:
I agree 2023 and younger are all good. What US Soccer/DA/Surf Cup Sports pulled on all of us was horrible. I told everyone we will see later. 2020 and 2021 have had it the worse. Let's all go back to memory lane shall we....
2016-2017 age groups 02/03 and 03/04 School year. All is good for most except those at Legends and Beach
2017-2018 Age groups 04, 03 and 02/01 Birth year change (Change teams)
2018/2019 Age group 04, 02/03. Combo meal for 02/03 (03 and 02 change teams again)
2019/2020 Age groups 04, 03 Back to single band (change again) Beach, Legends and Surfing USA are the happy ones. Can you all see who the winners are and the losers?
Now what? What are they all cooking up in da kitchen with all the chefs? They don;t care about your kid. They only care about getting more sign ups and more affiliates so they can make more $$$$ and grow franchises like Ray Kroc did when he took the best burgers and ice cream shakes that were made with real ice cream and took McDonald's across the county. Kroc didn;t know how to "develop" good food, only a salesman and he is now the Founder? He decided to make fake ice cream so he could sell more franchises faster. He wanted everything sped up fast so HE could make more money. He also hustled the two cooks who actually invented the best burgers west of the Mississippi. Go watch the founder and tell me how the soccer business is any different.
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Don't forget the creation of SCDSL because a few adults thought they could make more money by allowing unlimited teams per age group and letting teams select whichever flight they want to play in.
 
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