Elite athletes? 2009? SMH
How's your girl's 09 season going?
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Elite athletes? 2009? SMH
Venantsyo
GOLD
Elite players if you prefer and I agree with that comment.
Put #7 from Slammers Cruz on any average flight 1 team and you instantly become a contender
Venantsyo
GOLD
Congratulations, you had a very good tournament and should be very proud of the girls!
How is the move to 9v9 looking?
SoccerFan4Life
PREMIER
Right. I shouldn't have used elite athlete. Basically I am describing a player that might not have strong technical skills but is stronger, faster, more aggressive, and can shoot from far away.
These players take over on a 7v7 small size field. Legends white has 2 or 3 of these players. The other teammates are also good. Aztecs has one as well. Most of these final 4 teams in mayors, governors, presidents, will have one or two of these players.
Not personal but I'm going based of observation of practices and games. All 3 teams have elite athletes but coaching is whole different story. You can even look up videos on youtube and you'll see what I mean.
Thanks we are proud of them, they played hard and played through a lot. Lost in PKs, tough way to lose any match but the girls are tough. As far as the move to 9v9, I can't say that we've really started yet to be honest. We've played a tournament and a scrimmage so far at the 08 level. It will be interesting to see how the girls adjust to going 9v9 full-time. How are your girls dealing with the move?
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
I disagree. CDA Slammers was a top team last year w/o her. And I've seen a number of very good players playing on mediocre teams and they can only do so much. All of the contenders (i.e. quarter finalists in presidents) are there because they have strong teams.
Soccerdude55
BRONZE
Deadpool seems to have an ax to grind with the coach of legends west and it is very immature and cowardly to post criticism online. Seems as if maybe there daughter didn’t make the team and is looking to sling mud. It’s pretty pathetic.
I’m not a fan of 9v9, my extensive observation:
-seems to promote long ball;
-takes away the mids play at times;
-limits through balls;
-limits break aways;
-seen goalies punting ball to one another;
-promotes physical play in a small area;
-promotes shots on goal from a distant;
-removes dribbling as so many players in a small area;
-promotes quick passes in a small box;
-key skills is flawless collection and quick decision making and big kick;
-typically lower scoring games;
Parents get frustrated watching.
-seems to promote long ball;
-takes away the mids play at times;
-limits through balls;
-limits break aways;
-seen goalies punting ball to one another;
-promotes physical play in a small area;
-promotes shots on goal from a distant;
-removes dribbling as so many players in a small area;
-promotes quick passes in a small box;
-key skills is flawless collection and quick decision making and big kick;
-typically lower scoring games;
Parents get frustrated watching.
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
Definitely going to be a change with 9v9...but we can't play 7v7 forever. Hard to believe a few years ago before the US Soccer small sided initiative that u-littles started out playing 11v11. I like the initiative with players starting at 7v7 then transitioning to 9v9 and finally 11v11.
The above points are valid...but hopefully girls have been on a team where they actually tried to work on possession and team play. Bad coaches that promote kickball will always have teams that play kickball regardless of whether they're playing 7v7 or 11v11. Teams that play good passing/combination play soccer will be more successful over the long run.
Venantsyo
GOLD
Well, they are the top 4 teams in the nation for a reason, aren't they? I never said Slammers Cruz are there just because of her, on the other hand they have a very talented team, but she puts them over the top. At this age and playing 7 v 7 a great player makes obviously much more difference than when playing 11v11
Venantsyo
GOLD
Exactly, 7v7, 9v9 or 11v11 you'll still find plenty of kickball teams. I know everyone here likes to think their teams never play kickball so there's that....
El Clasico
GOLD
Really?? When was that exactly?
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
Maybe I'm mistaken...could have sworn I saw a video from years back where it looked like a ton of little girls on the field at the same time.
I am going to disagree I think 9v9 will:
- promotes playing thru the midfield you will have 2 or 3 mids now
- I think mids will have more action - mids are going to play a pivotal role in the top teams
- its going to create more through balls
- break aways, not a fan of them, look cool, may happen a few times only with 9v9
- agree with the punting thing - need to grow the field size (that would solve a lot of the issues)
- physical play is only going to get worse as they get older, this will slowly help prepare them
- shooting from a distance I see as a positive, I would like to see more shots from past the 18
- you should not be trying to dribble through more than 2 girls - PASS
- quick passing, that's a plus, don't show boat with the ball pass it
- lower score, once your in a competitive league/bracket typically they are low scoring games
I know for a fact all the Parents on our team is super excited to go 9v9, I think we will see some movement for sure in the top 10 teams.
Just my opinion
The top few teams will still be there-no movement there;
Superior teams will have to handle 7 or 8 in the box;
Hardly any overlapping when that teams stack the box;
Dribbling is a great skill to develop for the big field;
Shooting past the 18 is lazy soccer a lot of times or frustration by kids;
9 v 9 needs a larger size field.
Messi>CR7
GOLD
Speaking from experience, this is spot on and will be very frustrating for many. In many tournaments and league games, 9v9 are playing on the same fields as 7v7. You now have 18 players in the same size of field compared to only 14 a year before. Punts that used to reach halfway line now regularly fall in the attacking third. If we want to do this right, we really need to have incrementally larger fields for 9v9.
Venantsyo
GOLD
Considering the size of certain 7V7 fields we have played, that will feel like being at the DMV on a Monday morning...
Hey Everyone,
Here is my predictions for your State Cup finals based on my outside the box research...
Slammers Cruz 3
Eagles SC 1
Slammers PA 5
Blues V 0
Final
Slammers PA 2
Slammers Cruz 1
As for 9v9 vs 7v7...I think US Soccer obviously just aimed for a median jump and I am ok with it. On a large 11v11 field, these kids get tired extremely quickly when moving up to that size. I am in agreement that the 9v9 field should be expanded another 10 yards by 5 yards. Here on the East coast, there is not punting allowed until U11 on 9v9 field but most coaches won't even punt then. The only teams that punt are the ones coached by parents who just want to play kickball to try and win. If US Soccer was smart, they would eliminate punting until 11v11. This would develop kids to play out of the back teaching them more possession style soccer.
Here is my predictions for your State Cup finals based on my outside the box research...
Slammers Cruz 3
Eagles SC 1
Slammers PA 5
Blues V 0
Final
Slammers PA 2
Slammers Cruz 1
As for 9v9 vs 7v7...I think US Soccer obviously just aimed for a median jump and I am ok with it. On a large 11v11 field, these kids get tired extremely quickly when moving up to that size. I am in agreement that the 9v9 field should be expanded another 10 yards by 5 yards. Here on the East coast, there is not punting allowed until U11 on 9v9 field but most coaches won't even punt then. The only teams that punt are the ones coached by parents who just want to play kickball to try and win. If US Soccer was smart, they would eliminate punting until 11v11. This would develop kids to play out of the back teaching them more possession style soccer.
Venantsyo
GOLD
Interesting predictions. While I agree on the teams in the final I don’t see PA beating Cruz (anyone knows their matchup record?). They will all be 4 very good games for sure.
Rain is however once again a wild card...