Do they give any reason?
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Do they give any reason?
jpeter
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Yes handbands are considered gang attire & probhited by dress code no mater the color.
I must be too old.
coachrefparent
GOLD
Raise your B.S. flag en garde.
For at least the last 10 years that my kids have been playing and I have been coaching, and refereeing, I have had referees in San Diego state that tied head bands with knots in the back (not regular sweatbands) were deemed unsafe. I have also heard it at referee trainings across various assignor groups in SD. I just assumed this was universally accepted. I never thought it was a big "take-a-stand" issue, and just accepted it as a reasonable interpretation of the dangerous equipment rule.
I have never had the opportunity as a referee to deal with it, because I have never seen a knot tied bandanna in any of my games. But I do see how a hard knotted bandanna could cause an increase risk to other players, intentionally or not.
Nonsense.
Eagle33
PREMIER
Can you explain how can you see that?
Surfref
PREMIER
I attend referee association and RPD training almost every month in SD County, also occasionally in OC and LA Counties, and have never heard one Cal South instructor say that a headband with or without a knot is unsafe. Maybe I missed the meeting where someone in the audience said it was unsafe. A simple square knot in a soft cloth bandana on the back of the head is not and should not be a player safety issue. US Soccer and Cal South have said that knee braces which are made of hard plastic are safe, so why would they say a soft cloth bandana with a simple square knot is unsafe?
jpeter
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For reference my son wears these nike brand headbands that are advertised as good for soccer and he's seen the pros where them so does'nt get the objections to them, I asked him him how many times this past season: about 6-7 (half dozen) out of the 40 odd games including tournaments. Most are fine he says, so seems there are a minority who have a problem with the color or knots.
Keepermom2
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I don't know how true this is but I just found a ref that answered the question on another forum. It makes sense why there seems to be confusion.
"High school soccer, in their infinite wisdom, has declared that knots, such as those required to tie a bandana, pose a serious threat to player safety and has outlawed them"
"High school soccer, in their infinite wisdom, has declared that knots, such as those required to tie a bandana, pose a serious threat to player safety and has outlawed them"
Surfref
PREMIER
Player equipment falls under Rule 4. The Referee you talked to was correct when talking about bandanas. A bandana worn on the head is considered adornment (see Art. 2 below) so it does not matter if there is a knot or it is held in place somehow without a knot. In Situation 4.2.2, it does say “may be dangerous.” The “may be dangerous” falls under the realm of “in the opinion of the Referee” which is listed in Art 1. I have never had a HS player try to use a bandana as a hair control device. I wouldn’t make a player take the above Nike headband, aka hair control device, off because in the opinion of the Referee, me, it is a hair control device and not dangerous. Once again, referees need to use common sense. HS has some crazy Rules that the LOTG do not have.
Rule 4 Section 2 Other Equipment
ART. 1 . . . Illegal equipment shall not be worn by any player. This applies to any equipment which, in the opinion of the referee, is dangerous or confusing. Types of equipment which are illegal include, but are not limited to, the following:
a. projecting metal or other hard plates, or projections on clothing or person;
b. head, arm, thigh or hip pads containing sole leather, fiber, metal or any unyielding materials;
c. hard and unyielding items (guards, casts, braces, etc.) on the hand, wrist, forearm, elbow, upper arm or shoulder unless covered, and must be padded with a closed-cell, slow-recovery foam padding no less than ½-inch thick.
d. shinguards which have exposed sharp edges or have been altered;
e. spectacle guards;
f. knee braces which are altered from the manufacturer’s original design/production. Knee braces that are unaltered are legal and do not require any additional padding;
g. ankle braces which are altered from the manufacturer’s original design/production. Non-metal ankle braces that are unaltered are legal and may be worn outside a sock. Ankle braces of metal or unyielding material that are unaltered are legal if covered by a sock.
h. helmets, hats, caps or visors. See goalkeeper exceptions.
ART. 2 . . . Hair control devices may be worn if made of soft material and not for adornment.
ART. 3 . . . Sweatbands may be worn on the head or wrist if made of soft material.
*4.2.2 SITUATION A: During pregame warm-up, the referee observes that (a) A2 is wearing a rolled bandanna tied around his/her head; (b) A3 is wearing a bandanna that completely covers his/her head; (c) A4 is wearing a red headband. RULING: Illegal in (a) and (b) because the bandannas are considered adornment and any knotted device may be dangerous. Legal in (c) if worn to control the player’s hair or prevent sweat on the face.
1 of 3 refs from Norco showcase last weekend said “no headbands this tournament” and told my daughter, still bearing a scar from a prior head collision, to take off the protective sweatband. I wasn’t informed it was the ref’s decision til after the game. Complained to a ref coordinator who agreed with me. Let the next head ref know who had no issue.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
younothat
PREMIER
Well game across this article, while this might not apply to org's outstide ussda that don't necessarily strictly follow FIFA guidelines I hope somebody refs don't get the wrong idea and starting checking undergarment colors:
https://sports.yahoo.com/world-cup-...ayers-show-officials-underwear-160853685.html
World Cup Mystery Solved: Why must players show officials their underwear?
The answer, though, is somewhat boring. The official is simply checking to make sure the color of the player’s undershorts (if he’s wearing any) match the color of his regular shorts. FIFA rules explicitly state that any undershirts or undershorts must be the same color as the kit’s top layer.
In 2011, Bath City had five players sent off from a FA Youth Cup match for non-matching undershorts after officials failed to check before the game.
https://sports.yahoo.com/world-cup-...ayers-show-officials-underwear-160853685.html
World Cup Mystery Solved: Why must players show officials their underwear?
The answer, though, is somewhat boring. The official is simply checking to make sure the color of the player’s undershorts (if he’s wearing any) match the color of his regular shorts. FIFA rules explicitly state that any undershirts or undershorts must be the same color as the kit’s top layer.
In 2011, Bath City had five players sent off from a FA Youth Cup match for non-matching undershorts after officials failed to check before the game.
The Senegal player's long green sleeves were close, but not strictly matching, the green of his jersey.
Surfref
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I saw that article and immediately thought of Espola and JaP's childish argument about undergarments worn by youth players.
I was working a women's (20-30 year olds) game a few months ago and the players were giving one of the women grief because she wore a bright orange thong under her white uniform shorts that was really visible and got more visible when she started to sweat. I didn't notice until a couple of the players jokingly asked me if the underwear was supposed to match the color of the shorts. My response was, "I don't care and am not checking any underwear." She scored a goal and I asked her what her number she was so I could record the goal and one of her teammates said, "Just put down orange 1." I didn't get it at first then realized they were referencing the bright orange line (one) running down her butt.