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Throw Back Thursday Con..........

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Well, things ended horrible at State Cup her fist year of big time club. 0-3 and we were out. That is where the great JL came from heaven in the parking lot. She helped my player for two years and help did she. We won so many tournaments that came with medals and trophies and treated my dd like a girl soccer should be treated. My dd loves rewards and accomplishments and team hangouts. JL was awesome!!! I'll add some more pics next Thursday and maybe some of me when I was top GK in my town and had that big decision in HS, Hoops or Soccer?
 
Anon9 said:
messy said:
Where did you hear that?
My info originally came from The Atlantic in February and I never saw a higher estimate than that.
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Yea.. all sorts of usually reliable sources were projecting an apocalypse due to one doom saying British scientist. He had more influence on the initial fear than anyone else.

www.cato.org

How One Model Simulated 2.2 Million U.S. Deaths from COVID-19

The trouble with being too easily led by models is we can too easily be misled by models. Epidemic models may seem entirely different from economic models or climate models, but they all make terrible forecasts if filled with wrong assumptions and parameters.
www.cato.org www.cato.org
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That’s really funny.
If absolutely ZERO measures were taken, the report says deaths could have been 2.2 million.
That sounds reasonable.
Now who could be dumb enough to think that, therefore, we could lose an estimated 2.2mm people?
 
messy said:
That’s really funny.
If absolutely ZERO measures were taken, the report says deaths could have been 2.2 million.
That sounds reasonable.
Now who could be dumb enough to think that, therefore, we could lose an estimated 2.2mm people?
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You’re a pretty funny dude.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
I looked at the report referenced in the story and the headline is misleading. They could have also noted that the rate of children's deaths was 0.0% in AZ while many states where > 0.0 (NYC was 0.2%). However, that would also be misleading. Ok, Dummy, do you have any thoughts on the problem of comparing states as was done in the headline? I'll give you a hint. Think about how often children are asymptomatic, and how often asymptomatic children are tested currently in states like AZ compared to how often asymptomatic children were tested when the pandemic started last spring in states like NY.

Don't be manipulated, Dummy. All "sides" will try to manipulate you. Although, I'm torn as to whether this was intentional or was a case of "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignorance."
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“The report also indicates that Arizona had the highest positivity rate for children, at 17.8%. That is the percent of children who tested positive for COVID out of the total number of children tested.”

If this represents testing asymptomatic of children in Arizona, I would be very concerned about the risk of community spread of the disease among children in groups. Maybe other states are being impacted by the disease even worse, but the more limited testing programs in those states make it more difficult to know. Unfortunately, every state prioritizes public health equally.

What is misleading is to suggest that there is a 0.0% death rate, when more than 400 children in Arizona have died from COVID-19. Epidemiologists would express this rate differently to more accurately represent the rate of death that actually occurred.

Good luck to everyone overcoming the challenges presented by COVID-19.
 
Dummy said:
“The report also indicates that Arizona had the highest positivity rate for children, at 17.8%. That is the percent of children who tested positive for COVID out of the total number of children tested.”

If this represents testing asymptomatic of children in Arizona, I would be very concerned about the risk of community spread of the disease among children in groups. Maybe other states are being impacted by the disease even worse, but the more limited testing programs in those states make it more difficult to know. Unfortunately, every state prioritizes public health equally.

What is misleading is to suggest that there is a 0.0% death rate, when more than 400 children in Arizona have died from COVID-19. Epidemiologists would express this rate differently to more accurately represent the rate of death that actually occurred.

Good luck to everyone overcoming the challenges presented by COVID-19.
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You posted the link without comment and the only thing that showed of interest was the following and the first line of the story states the same thing.

"A report released by the American Academy of Pediatrics shows AZ has more COVID cases per 100,000 children than any other state in the country."

It makes little sense to compare this number across states as the level of testing asymptomatic people varies considerably by state and by the time period the state was going through most of their cases. Early in the pandemic, testing was not widely available and even people with symptoms had difficulty getting tested. So, yeah, all those asymptomatic people in NY never became "cases".

Also, where do you get the "when more than 400 children in Arizona have died"? The story states that more than 400 were hospitalized, 12 died.

"The report says 410 children were hospitalized and 12 children died."
 
Dummy said:
“The report also indicates that Arizona had the highest positivity rate for children, at 17.8%. That is the percent of children who tested positive for COVID out of the total number of children tested.”

What is misleading is to suggest that there is a 0.0% death rate, when more than 400 children in Arizona have died from COVID-19. Epidemiologists would express this rate differently to more accurately represent the rate of death that actually occurred.

Good luck to everyone overcoming the challenges presented by COVID-19.
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Hopefully this is a typo on your behalf because the irony of the whole statement is crazy. As is the case in today's society, retracting false statements is an afterthought. Not that it matters for a soccer forum. Just principle I guess.

Regardless, FUTBOL will be in full swing in Arizona this weekend, with Advanced League play in games and what's being called a "Scrimmage Fest". We will see how it all works out, how it's run, and if it's a good proof of concept for how the season will be managed. NJ and other states have shown they can run sizable tournaments in a safe and responsible manner. Parents will have to make a choice on whether they think the "risk" is worth it. Youngers of course will be driven, many olders will drive.

Let's hope that adults can be responsible enough to set conditions for their GOATs to get in a game or two.
 
happy9 said:
Hopefully this is a typo on your behalf because the irony of the whole statement is crazy. As is the case in today's society, retracting false statements is an afterthought. Not that it matters for a soccer forum. Just principle I guess.

Regardless, FUTBOL will be in full swing in Arizona this weekend, with Advanced League play in games and what's being called a "Scrimmage Fest". We will see how it all works out, how it's run, and if it's a good proof of concept for how the season will be managed. NJ and other states have shown they can run sizable tournaments in a safe and responsible manner. Parents will have to make a choice on whether they think the "risk" is worth it. Youngers of course will be driven, many olders will drive.

Let's hope that adults can be responsible enough to set conditions for their GOATs to get in a game or two.
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I looked up the New Jersey portion of your post and found an article from Soccer Today, dated July 23, that says they're playing again. So 3-4 weeks now of active contact. Have you seen anything referring to follow up since then?
 
The Outlaw said:
Found this. New Jersey still allowing contact sports after nearly a month.

COVID-19

Stay informed with NJ
covid19.nj.gov
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They just wrapped up a college showcase event this past weekend. It's not their first tournament of the summer - I want to say it's their 5th major tournament. I've attended in the past when I lived in NJ, big event, one of the biggest on the east coast, fields are carved out of an enormous turf farm. From what I hear, it was scaled back to comply with NJ public health guidelines, but they pulled it off. 1 Parent games, etc. I don't anticipate this to be classified as a "super spreader" event.

I can't emphasize enough how big of an event this normally is. It makes Surf look like small potatoes in terms of fields at one location.

www.edpsoccer.com

[8]EDP Showcase 2020

EDP Soccer provides developmental soccer leagues and tournaments across the United States
www.edpsoccer.com www.edpsoccer.com
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Recruiting Returns at the EDP Soccer Showcase 2020

After successfully hosting four tournaments last month, EDP Soccer kicked off its first showcase event of the 2020-2021 season with its popular EDP Showcase at Tuckahoe Turf Farms in Hammonton, NJ. The event hosted 15U-19U Boys and Girls teams, as many clubs continue to come back to competitive play
www.edpsoccer.com www.edpsoccer.com
 
Futbol Dad said:
Mine as well. Feels the need to respond to EVERY thread
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I;m only clueless because my_______________________don;t agree with Mr Magoo. Espy has no kids playing in youth soccer but has a ______________ opinion and that is it. I am not clueless in socal about youth soccer and that is why I post a lot. My dd is almost done with club and this is my last season as a soccer dad. The last three years has sucked!!! I feel a calling to share my experience with all of you. I know some have told me to go pound sand and get lost. I will, sooner rather than later. I might stop by and say hi but I wont be here everyday like I have been. I'm so bored to death and have zero sports to watch. All the Off topic garbage is sh*t and Its why were in the messy mess were in today. I'm only talking soccer now and I cant wait for my dd to play again some day. That is from the bottom of my heart futbol dad. I will chill out and let others post their opinions on the socal soccer forum now. I did add a little life to this place last year so give me a little credit dude.
 
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