Guidance are not for everyone

Not mine concern who, if, when or not pays attention to guidance. Just like guidelines, suggestion on how to conduct one self driving or as a person some people have good manners and work well with other and some not as much.

From what I've seen by chance is a mixed bag of youth teams during different things, some at parks, schools, and a complex or two.

My sons club still is not practicing and went back to virtual zoom training, being in LA there is not a lot of wiggle room what's really allowed and the organization only does thing strictly by the book.

My causal observation is there are some there are very strict with the guidance, entrance checks, masks, temps, spacing, no scrimmages. Others not so much: walk up, no mask, no check-in, normal close proximity practice, intra squad scrimmages, etc .

What's the split ? not sure but is different especially with the olders, I happen to be near a complex last night due to business so I took a walk around before the dinner meet and most of older club teams where not distant: 11v6 positional rondo, shooting attacking drills, crosses in the box, etc.

younger seemed different every in order, strict lines, spacing, back packs spread out, no close contact.

parents very mixed bag of mask or not but at least they where keeping there distances from one and other.

in any case teams and clubs even on the same ones where doing things differently for whatever reasons but don't see a problem with any of that.

im not sure what the motivation is for the kids besides being happy to be out there but it was a very subtle kind of thing as I didn't see any scrimmages besides some adults that where practicing.

Does the guidance work or is it very important that everyone follow it strictly? Not sure think more study or somethings would have to be considered. Sad that this is the only to get any team practice in, I'm just thankful my player has been able to train on his own, play privately with a few of his friends, and is still enjoying his summer biking, biking, skating, swimming, surfing, sand sports at the beach, etc while completing a college course on-line.

i hope club sports survive and eventually thrive again but have a feeling going to long haul to get back to anywhere to the peak levels they once where but let's hope more places open up and the numbers settle down.
 
It is amazing how much whining goes on here. Is this what today’s men have become?
Easy soccer mom. Not all men are created equal. I will say the last three years a certain type of man came into soccer and he's the type with some $$$ and he usually gets what he wants. Most of these Papa bears demand that their dd to go to college and soccer is how you get in. It muddied the purity of soccer and the pure joy of just playing a game of soccer with other top all stars. These dad demanded 25% starts as well. Plus access!!! Some kids are more comfortable juggling and hitting the wall all day with a ball by themselves. Boring. Most athletes that I know what to play an actually game. This will get all fixed, trust me. Development? Ya right.....
 
I'm currently at a local high school ((not LBHS for all you social observers with camera phones)). My dd is doing her one on one privates and working really hard. Girls are playing softball as well and I mean a lot of girls. It's like everyone is out and balling like there's no tomorrow promised us. I say get it while can. We can only charge ahead one day at a time. Its beautiful to see sports being played. I hope soccer can be played this year. Something tells me its possible if everyone can follow the guidelines in all cities and areas.
 
I don't think it should be matter of police kicking someone of the field either. I believe it should be a matter of governing body to make sure those individuals will never coach youth sports again.
I agree… Police have better things to do.
 
Wrong. Slammers had a full page dedicated to signing up for training and signing waivers on their site. West Coast posted it on their Instagram, even congratulating themselves for circumventing the governor's orders. The Blues leadership has sent an email to all the families saying it was a no go. That is a massive difference in leadership. WC and Slammers leaders are pushing the training. Blues is not. So one coach going rogue (if it is even a blues team since no one is naming them) is very different.
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Wrong. Slammers had a full page dedicated to signing up for training and signing waivers on their site. West Coast posted it on their Instagram, even congratulating themselves for circumventing the governor's orders. The Blues leadership has sent an email to all the families saying it was a no go. That is a massive difference in leadership. WC and Slammers leaders are pushing the training. Blues is not. So one coach going rogue (if it is even a blues team since no one is naming them) is very different.
I don’t want to go searching for links but their is plenty of data showing children are not at significant risk from this virus. I am not willing to accept locking my kid down for months at a time because of the extremely small risk. Might as well lock them up during flu season as well using this logic.

I don’t want to go searching for links but their is plenty of data showing children are not at significant risk from this virus. I am not willing to accept locking my kid down for months at a time because of the extremely small risk. Might as well lock them up during flu season as well using this logic.

What they are finding is that even with a very mild case of covid with or without symptoms, there can be significant amount of inflammation of the heart. They are only recently bringing in individuals for further testing to study this. They don't know the possible long term affects. This is a concern for athletes.
 
I am not admitting it. I said 'if it was a blues coach'. And, it turns out it was not a blues team/coach that was scrimmaging per the original poster. This is my exact quote... hint note the part in bold: So one coach going rogue (if it is even a blues team since no one is naming them) is very different.

Also, as I said, I have no idea what the best of the best camp was. But, it sounds like it is a camp. Camps were legal under the governors orders. So what am I missing that was wrong with that photo? Coaches can coach camps. They just were not allowed to run club training under the false premise that it was a camp.

I love how a few of you are so quick to jump on the Blues, yet ignore the factual information that Slammers and West Coast were intentionally violating the orders on direct from their leadership.
Wrong. Whoever is in the photo is not physically distancing or wearing masks. Period.
 
if you are that concerned about the virus. stay home. don't go for walks and tattle on other people trying to live their life. wasnt my kid's club but i appreciate whomever set up the scrimmages. let these kid's find some normalcy. I would let my kid play in a heartbeat.
 
if you are that concerned about the virus. stay home. don't go for walks and tattle on other people trying to live their life. wasnt my kid's club but i appreciate whomever set up the scrimmages. let these kid's find some normalcy. I would let my kid play in a heartbeat.
We are that concerned that you will spread the virus and make it worse.

Think of it as having a neighbor who insists on leaving the lid off his trash, and insults you when you mention the rat problem.
 
We are that concerned that you will spread the virus and make it worse.

Think of it as having a neighbor who insists on leaving the lid off his trash, and insults you when you mention the rat problem.
Or neighbor with barking dogs and wont shut them up. A good neighbor will put lid on for their neighbor. What does this have to do with little kids playing a soccer game? I'm safer at the Great Park then any other place in OC imo.
 
Or neighbor with barking dogs and wont shut them up. A good neighbor will put lid on for their neighbor. What does this have to do with little kids playing a soccer game? I'm safer at the Great Park then any other place in OC imo.
My point is that, in a pandemic, my behavior affects your risk. And vice versa.

If the soccer game is a significant risk for spreading the virus, then it is a public health risk and should be illegal.

If the soccer game is not a risk for spreading the virus, then it is not a public health risk and should be legal.

But this is a scientific question, not a personal choice question. Personal choice has nothing to do with it. You want to smoke banana peels? Go for it. Your body. You want to hold a party? Wait for a vaccine. I dont want your party increasing my risk.
 
My point is that, in a pandemic, my behavior affects your risk. And vice versa.

If the soccer game is a significant risk for spreading the virus, then it is a public health risk and should be illegal.

If the soccer game is not a risk for spreading the virus, then it is not a public health risk and should be legal.

But this is a scientific question, not a personal choice question. Personal choice has nothing to do with it. You want to smoke banana peels? Go for it. Your body. You want to hold a party? Wait for a vaccine. I dont want your party increasing my risk.
So ANY and ALL activities that represents a “significant” risk should be ban, including mass gatherings (20+ppl I believe is the defined #) of ANY kind, for ANY reason, is that how this is to be interpreted?
 
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My point is that, in a pandemic, my behavior affects your risk. And vice versa.

If the soccer game is a significant risk for spreading the virus, then it is a public health risk and should be illegal.

If the soccer game is not a risk for spreading the virus, then it is not a public health risk and should be legal.

But this is a scientific question, not a personal choice question. Personal choice has nothing to do with it. You want to smoke banana peels? Go for it. Your body. You want to hold a party? Wait for a vaccine. I dont want your party increasing my risk.
No documented cases from any of the European soccer leagues or MLS or adult leagues or any sports. And don’t put out one off cases. It’s 6 months in and nothing that shows it transmits in a scrimmage.
 
No documented cases from any of the European soccer leagues or MLS or adult leagues or any sports. And don’t put out one off cases. It’s 6 months in and nothing that shows it transmits in a scrimmage.
MLS is in a bubble. All other pro leagues get constant testing.
Before the bubble, of course, Nashville and Dallas had to cancel because of team spreading.

I’m not aware of any “adult leagues” going on.
 
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