Guidance are not for everyone

We went back to practice Saturday as a team. 14 girls out of 18. 2 of the 4 that missed have family members that are high risk so they aren't showing up right now. The other 2 were out of town.

Every girl walked to a cone with their bag wearing a mask. 7-8 feet apart. In shade. It was hot. Sat and waited until they were temp checked using infrared on forehead. All used hand sanitizer at this time. Then went out to the field in designated areas. Coach wore his mask the whole time. Ran a number of dribbling drills, passing drills, did some running, but no rondo at this time since that would require playing defense. Did some shooting from distance as well.

Took a few breaks as they would jog back to their bag. At the end they all sat by their bags and had team discussions. Only real mistake they made was walking off the field when everything was done not wearing their masks. They were reminded to put their masks back on. None of girls used their hands to pick up soccer balls except the keeper. 14 and 15 year old girls did a good job overall.
Yeah...it sucks for the kids that have family members at high risk because certain people (not necessarily you) believe they should be locked up and let the virus spread wild. Wonder how the suicide rate will be for those kids....

My kid is back to practicing too because I am trying to balance it all.
 
Wonder how the suicide rate will be for those kids....
I wonder what the suicide rate will be for the 10s of millions of kids who are healthy, have healthy family and are told they cannot go to school or play sports despite the fact that DATA shows they have about ZERO risk. That is madness.

Those that are at risk or who feel concerned should stay home. That is the logical solution vs locking everyone up.

By the way. You don't like AZ approach to what we do. Take a look at transmission rates. AZ is the lowest. CA who is doing what you like keeps creeping up in transmission rate.

Time to play soccer!!!

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I wonder what the suicide rate will be for the 10s of millions of kids who are healthy, have healthy family and are told they cannot go to school or play sports despite the fact that DATA shows they have about ZERO risk. That is madness.

Those that are at risk or who feel concerned should stay home. That is the logical solution vs locking everyone up.

By the way. You don't like AZ approach to what we do. Take a look at transmission rates. AZ is the lowest. CA who is doing what you like keeps creeping up in transmission rate.

Time to play soccer!!!

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You have made quite clear before your lack of compassion for anyone but yourself and your attitude that it sucks to be you if you are vulnerable. You aren't at risk to die so your want life to carry on as normal.

Why are you even discussing in a chat that has nothing to do with your community? Why don't you go in your own community and discuss your narcissistic views.
 
You have made quite clear before your lack of compassion for anyone but yourself and your attitude that it sucks to be you if you are vulnerable. You aren't at risk to die so your want life to carry on as normal.

Why are you even discussing in a chat that has nothing to do with your community? Why don't you go in your own community and discuss your narcissistic views.
Didn't you just say your kid was back at practice? Isn't that a bit hypocritical on your part since you are pretty much saying a .00001 (under 20 out of 1.6m) chance is too much and we should day locked down... "for the sake of the community"
 
You have made quite clear before your lack of compassion for anyone but yourself and your attitude that it sucks to be you if you are vulnerable. You aren't at risk to die so your want life to carry on as normal.

Why are you even discussing in a chat that has nothing to do with your community? Why don't you go in your own community and discuss your narcissistic views.
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I presume you are calling me a Liberal? I don't believe that is allowed and also shows your ignorance. I am not a Liberal. I am a logical thinker that weighs information based on logic and evidence. COVID is not a political issue though people like you have made it that. I have presented facts and statistics Dessert Hound on many many occasions and he constantly presents statistics that are faulty in one way or another or he cherry picks his data. I do not need to do it again. The point is clear....he is discussing in a chat that he is not a member of the community so he should butt out.
 
I presume you are calling me a Liberal? I don't believe that is allowed and also shows your ignorance. I am not a Liberal. I am a logical thinker that weighs information based on logic and evidence. COVID is not a political issue though people like you have made it that. I have presented facts and statistics Dessert Hound on many many occasions and he constantly presents statistics that are faulty in one way or another or he cherry picks his data. I do not need to do it again. The point is clear....he is discussing in a chat that he is not a member of the community so he should butt out.
Um.. you seem to only believe the "logic and evidence" from your sources. When shown data from CDC and others you fall back on tales of "what about the mothers of those involved" and heartstring based themes. So pick a side either embrace the statistics and realize while small, some people will be negatively effected while the vast majority will not and support a policy truly based on the data or admit you have an agenda and only seem to respect information that agrees with it.
 
I presume you are calling me a Liberal? I don't believe that is allowed and also shows your ignorance. I am not a Liberal. I am a logical thinker that weighs information based on logic and evidence. COVID is not a political issue though people like you have made it that. I have presented facts and statistics Dessert Hound on many many occasions and he constantly presents statistics that are faulty in one way or another or he cherry picks his data. I do not need to do it again. The point is clear....he is discussing in a chat that he is not a member of the community so he should butt out.
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Um.. you seem to only believe the "logic and evidence" from your sources. When shown data from CDC and others you fall back on tales of "what about the mothers of those involved" and heartstring based themes. So pick a side either embrace the statistics and realize while small, some people will be negatively effected while the vast majority will not and support a policy truly based on the data or admit you have an agenda and only seem to respect information that agrees with it.
What issues do you have with the sources I have presented? Please explain with facts. Yes I care about human beings in my community. I have picked a side...historical to an extent while recognizing we don't know what we don't know.
 
Didn't you just say your kid was back at practice? Isn't that a bit hypocritical on your part since you are pretty much saying a .00001 (under 20 out of 1.6m) chance is too much and we should day locked down... "for the sake of the community"
No it is not. Please point out where I ever said we should stay locked down. It isn't an all or nothing proposition. We should be smart with lower risk activities (the way practice and training for my daughter is very low risk) not just lock up everyone that is vulnerable and go back to life as normal.
 
This is such a wildly, grossly fucking incorrect statistic, to try to twist your argument, that any math teacher above second grade would be ashamed of you. Give it a rest.
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I wonder what the suicide rate will be for the 10s of millions of kids who are healthy, have healthy family and are told they cannot go to school or play sports despite the fact that DATA shows they have about ZERO risk. That is madness.

Those that are at risk or who feel concerned should stay home. That is the logical solution vs locking everyone up.

By the way. You don't like AZ approach to what we do. Take a look at transmission rates. AZ is the lowest. CA who is doing what you like keeps creeping up in transmission rate.

Time to play soccer!!!

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I wonder what the suicide rate will be for those whose friends and family members die. For those suffering financial hardship because their parents were laid off from jobs impacted by covid-19 in workplaces where people were actually dying?

It is funny how people here initially claimed it was no big deal because only a couple thousand died, but now they’re arguing that 172,000 plus another 1000+ a day is also no big deal. We needed to cull the herd anyway, right?

How many people need to die before they change their minds? I think the answer is everyone.
 
I said this before but when Disneyland is open and you can attend a local sporting or music event outside a drive-in youth sports will be back in full swing. There is no monetary incentive for the state to loosen restrictions or any politicial push to get it done.

Took so long just to get that limited guidance that unless we see a dramatic drop in the numbers not much is likely to change in the near future, fall season is a long shot at this point for any affiliated leagues.

Time to make the best of it and continue to train and improve in anyway, shape, or form you can.
 
You have made quite clear before your lack of compassion for anyone but yourself and your attitude that it sucks to be you if you are vulnerable. You aren't at risk to die so your want life to carry on as normal.

Why are you even discussing in a chat that has nothing to do with your community? Why don't you go in your own community and discuss your narcissistic views.
I'm going to type this slowly so you can maybe understand what countless people are trying to tell you.

Regarding Covid-19 it is abundantly clear who is most at risk from both serious illness and death. The elderly and those with underlying health problems. Those people (the most at risk) should isolate/quarantine themselves. Take every precaution to avoid any chance of exposure. They should avoid people that are out and about in any resemblance of a normal daily life. Your grand kids play soccer? Keep them away until it is safe for you to be exposed to them.

My kids have an aunt they adore. She is at risk (over 65 and some serious health issues). Guess what? My kids (and all of her grand kids) can't go see her right now. We don't go see her. She does not go out to shop. She does not go to restaurants. She doesn't go to youth soccer games. Only a select few visit her and they take every precaution to avoid any chance of exposure.
 
I'm going to type this slowly so you can maybe understand what countless people are trying to tell you.

Regarding Covid-19 it is abundantly clear who is most at risk from both serious illness and death. The elderly and those with underlying health problems. Those people (the most at risk) should isolate/quarantine themselves. Take every precaution to avoid any chance of exposure. They should avoid people that are out and about in any resemblance of a normal daily life. Your grand kids play soccer? Keep them away until it is safe for you to be exposed to them.

My kids have an aunt they adore. She is at risk (over 65 and some serious health issues). Guess what? My kids (and all of her grand kids) can't go see her right now. We don't go see her. She does not go out to shop. She does not go to restaurants. She doesn't go to youth soccer games. Only a select few visit her and they take every precaution to avoid any chance of exposure.

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I'm going to type this slowly so you can maybe understand what countless people are trying to tell you.

Regarding Covid-19 it is abundantly clear who is most at risk from both serious illness and death. The elderly and those with underlying health problems. Those people (the most at risk) should isolate/quarantine themselves. Take every precaution to avoid any chance of exposure. They should avoid people that are out and about in any resemblance of a normal daily life. Your grand kids play soccer? Keep them away until it is safe for you to be exposed to them.

My kids have an aunt they adore. She is at risk (over 65 and some serious health issues). Guess what? My kids (and all of her grand kids) can't go see her right now. We don't go see her. She does not go out to shop. She does not go to restaurants. She doesn't go to youth soccer games. Only a select few visit her and they take every precaution to avoid any chance of exposure.
I completely understand your point. Vulnerable people should lock up so everyone else can live as normal. Most of them are old or live in poverty so who gives a shit not my problem. It is their responsibility to lock up not my responsponsibility to do anything to slow the spread so they too can have a quality life. I find that very sad that people like you think that way whether I was vulnerable or not.
 

Easy going, you might want to read up or post in the correct forum before Dom catches up on his moderating:
 
This is such a wildly, grossly fucking incorrect statistic, to try to twist your argument, that any math teacher above second grade would be ashamed of you. Give it a rest.
Explain?

Using CDC website. USA CDC numbers Covid deaths ages 1-24. 275 total. Same time period 21,544 deaths from all causes. Top 3 causes for deaths for ages 1-24 are Accidents (unintentional injuries), homicide, and suicide.

Kids in general are not dying based on the CDC numbers. They can and will be carriers if not careful. The question then becomes what is careful. Because so many can have it without knowing, my parents, my in-laws, they stay home. We visit from distance wearing masks, we shop for them.

Right now going back to practice while following state guidelines is careful and what we should be doing. If after 2-3 weeks evidence allows us to advance to in team scrimmage, then great.
 
I completely understand your point. Vulnerable people should lock up so everyone else can live as normal. Most of them are old or live in poverty so who gives a shit not my problem. It is their responsibility to lock up not my responsponsibility to do anything to slow the spread so they too can have a quality life. I find that very sad that people like you think that way whether I was vulnerable or not.
I understand completely what you are saying. Anyone that comes into contact with others should be wearing masks. But until we have a vaccine, are any of us going to want our high risk relatives out and about, even if our numbers were only 10% of what we are now?
 
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