Well it looks like the DOC for AYSO United (Central "Chino Hills" & Empire "Riverside") has been selected, Tom Lancaster from NOMADS. He will be hiring the coaches and possibly his staff as well. What are your thoughts, is he the right man for the job knocking on the doors on multiple clubs such as Legends, Arsenal, IE Surf etc.?
Guarantee to play 50% and small rosters?
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According to the website, presently no but there may be in the future.
ThtGoaldnKeeper
BRONZE
In the end it's still AYSO. All AYSO teams "guarantee" 50 percent playing time. It is not a club. There are very few AYSO teams that become top level teams (Thousand Oaks played about Flight 2 level last year). If you want your kid to do good and get better, you HAVE to move to club. I'm not saying that good players do not exist in the AYSO circuit, especially not in the boys, however, your kid will not go past high school or that level if all they do is play AYSO. It is not the name AYSO that causes people to choose club, it's the fact that AYSO is soccer's version of rec ball.
The decision to play club is the same as a baseball player's to move to travel ball instead of rec ball. It's the same as a swimmer's to join a club instead of just doing high school. The commitment is higher. The competition is higher. The speed of play and the strength. The thing about guaranteeing play is that that mindset prohibits a player's work ethic. If they are guaranteed to play, there is no reason to work harder and harder at practice. To work on your own fitness. Work to please and impress your coach. It takes the competitiveness out of soccer. These kids probably won't be taken seriously. The soccer scope is too big. When you have kids, who in the same 2017-2018 season will be playing ECNL, DA, and Flight 1 teams, and get playing time, how would a kid playing a newly formed AYSO "club" that doesn't force the kids to earn time. It's unrealistic. It doesn't work like that in college, in the real world. Things have to be earned.
It's a fantastic idea, nevertheless. But, I do think this would be the better option for those looking to transition into the club soccer scene rather than be a permanent home. These are just my thoughts on it .
jrcaesar
SILVER ELITE
I agree to a point. But ... on any club team, a good coach should find a way for kids to play half of the time or those players are on the wrong team (wrong club, wrong tier, wrong coach, too many rostered players, etc.). Even Flight 1 players/parents should have that expectation most games. Now there's a big difference between playing 50% of a game and being a starter and playing all 60-70 minutes ... the AYSO "club" team is the same as others in this regard.
Having been through both the Extras and Club tryout season this year for my son (ultimately he got an offer for an Extras team and a club team and we went club), the other problem with the AYSO club/extras program is that they still rely on volunteer coaches. Though the knowledge base is higher than the regular AYSO rec program, it's still not the same as our club staff. Granted, I'm sure there are some AYSO coaches out there that are better than some individual club coaches. But overall, the system of relying so heavily on volunteers (whether coaches or refs) does carry a downside for player development. And because the team is only together for the season (at least in theory) it also seems to put pressure on the staff to put together a team of the fastest and biggest legs, rather than the players with the most soccer knowledge (because it's one season and then out...you aren't trying to build any brand loyalty there).