Girls Development Academy

Real Deal said:
What about "Development Player" They have that on the boy side. Is it available for the girls yet?
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Yes but there scope is more limited than most post about.

DP = 0-6 games, not subject to min playing time requirements. Not typically used much in quantity some teams have none to maybe 3 a season although rules permit up 10 on each team max per season but not more than 6 at a time. The scouting and auditing reports tracks this so using DP's in quantity is not normally a good reflection on the program.
 
younothat said:
Yes but there scope is more limited than most post about.

DP = 0-6 games, not subject to min playing time requirements. Not typically used much in quantity some teams have none to maybe 3 a season although rules permit up 10 on each team max per season but not more than 6 at a time. The scouting and auditing reports tracks this so using DP's in quantity is not normally a good reflection on the program.
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How many girls will make up a DA 1 team? Do you know?
 
Sandypk said:
How many girls will make up a DA 1 team? Do you know?
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Rules for 16-17 might be some some minor changes for 17-18
https://ussoccer.box.com/s/ddh3x0fztgwufv8x1bc3dep1i97t0q5h

2003 & 2004: 16 min, 20 max but only 18 on the game day roster
2002,01: combined min of 32, combined max of 46, but only 18 on the game day roster per team
00,99: combined min of 32, combined max of 46, but only 18 on the game day roster per team

"Each roster shall be published on the official U.S. Soccer Development Academy registration website, and shall be considered the official roster of the Academy club. There is a minimum of 32 full-time (FT) players per Academy club combined in the U-15/16 and U-17/18 age group and 16 full-time players each in both the U-13 & U-14 age groups. There is a maximum of 20 full-time players at both the U-13 & U-14 age groups and 46 full-time players combined between the U-15/16 and U-17/18 age groups. At the U-12 age group, there may be between 24-26 full-time players. There is no limit to the number of rostered players that do not have United States citizenship.

Only 11 players on the field and 3 sub movements plus half time so typically half the bench may get into games depending on the situations.
 
younothat said:
Rules for 16-17 might be some some minor changes for 17-18
https://ussoccer.box.com/s/ddh3x0fztgwufv8x1bc3dep1i97t0q5h

2003 & 2004: 16 min, 20 max but only 18 on the game day roster
2002,01: combined min of 32, combined max of 46, but only 18 on the game day roster per team
00,99: combined min of 32, combined max of 46, but only 18 on the game day roster per team

"Each roster shall be published on the official U.S. Soccer Development Academy registration website, and shall be considered the official roster of the Academy club. There is a minimum of 32 full-time (FT) players per Academy club combined in the U-15/16 and U-17/18 age group and 16 full-time players each in both the U-13 & U-14 age groups. There is a maximum of 20 full-time players at both the U-13 & U-14 age groups and 46 full-time players combined between the U-15/16 and U-17/18 age groups. At the U-12 age group, there may be between 24-26 full-time players. There is no limit to the number of rostered players that do not have United States citizenship.

Only 11 players on the field and 3 sub movements plus half time so typically half the bench may get into games depending on the situations.
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Those may be the boys rules, but the applications for the girls academy outlined the following (apologize for the format):

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Roster Management:

Development Academy clubs will be required to field teams that consist of the top players from the club's entire player pool. Clubs have the flexibility to register any age combination of players across all 3 age groups, provided they do not exceed 69 full-time players

Player pools will include a minimum number of 16 full-time registered players in each combined age group.
On average, player pools will include a maximum of 23 full-time players per combined age group; however, the club could register more younger players in an age group, with the intention of playing those players up in an older age group.

A Development Player (DP) is a “bubble player” in any age group that trains with your GDA player pool, but is better suited playing games with a “second level” team from within the club (provided the club has full oversight and connection with this group, group operates out of same facility, and player does not come from an affiliate club)

Registering a DP is a serious and careful decision that should be part of a planned opportunity for the player to get meaningful game experience in an Academy game. Clubs can have a maximum of 10 DPs registered at a single time within their player pool; DPs may play in a maximum of 6 games and can later move to full-time, provided the club has roster moves and full-time roster space available
 
Dos Equis said:
Those may be the boys rules, but the applications for the girls academy outlined the following (apologize for the format):

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Roster Management:

Development Academy clubs will be required to field teams that consist of the top players from the club's entire player pool. Clubs have the flexibility to register any age combination of players across all 3 age groups, provided they do not exceed 69 full-time players

Player pools will include a minimum number of 16 full-time registered players in each combined age group.
On average, player pools will include a maximum of 23 full-time players per combined age group; however, the club could register more younger players in an age group, with the intention of playing those players up in an older age group.

A Development Player (DP) is a “bubble player” in any age group that trains with your GDA player pool, but is better suited playing games with a “second level” team from within the club (provided the club has full oversight and connection with this group, group operates out of same facility, and player does not come from an affiliate club)

Registering a DP is a serious and careful decision that should be part of a planned opportunity for the player to get meaningful game experience in an Academy game. Clubs can have a maximum of 10 DPs registered at a single time within their player pool; DPs may play in a maximum of 6 games and can later move to full-time, provided the club has roster moves and full-time roster space available
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Yes on the app but things have changed to the four age groups: U-14, U-15, U-16/17, and U-18/19. Going to be minor changes in 17-18', boys & girls should very similar: min 16, max 18 game day single age groups: 23 max combed age groups which is just the half of the 46 as it is now for the boys for both U15/16 & U17/18

DP rules: https://ussoccer.box.com/s/7y8c97ea6hqc0bk1tulf1yvpn9zij4dh
 
mahrez said:
USSF runs DA , US club soccer (member association) is behind the prep academy concept some refer to as DA II but they are different org all together (different registration, guidelines, etc you can't just easily move players between the two for example)

US club wants to get a bigger footprint in SC and try to appeal to other players or clubs that maybe looking at options outside of usys /cal south or other leagues.
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I agree that DAII has nothing to do with the DA. DAII is a completely made up league created by the DA clubs whose second teams are not doing ECNL. I was told at a parent meeting that the DAII would use the same rules and carding as the DA, which in hindsight is strange because if the DA had nothing to do with DAII, why would the players be carded with the DA?

I had not heard that the DAII players would card with USClub. This would be the best outcome so that the players could do tournaments.

I did not hear that DAII players could move up to the DA team. However, perhaps they could move up as discovery players.
 
  • glen_dandy said:
    I agree that DAII has nothing to do with the DA. DAII is a completely made up league created by the DA clubs whose second teams are not doing ECNL. I was told at a parent meeting that the DAII would use the same rules and carding as the DA, which in hindsight is strange because if the DA had nothing to do with DAII, why would the players be carded with the DA?

    I had not heard that the DAII players would card with USClub. This would be the best outcome so that the players could do tournaments.

    I did not hear that DAII players could move up to the DA team. However, perhaps they could move up as discovery players.
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My understanding is similar to yours with the following exceptions:
  • DA II is connected USSF and the DA program
  • DAII players can/will get called up to play on DA teams as a part of the DP program
  • DA II is not a USClub sponsored league
  • DAII will play other DAII teams for regular events and within the DA showcase program
The miss information is due to the fight over ECNL and DA...who has the power?
 
DJB said:
My understanding is similar to yours with the following exceptions:
  • DA II is connected USSF and the DA program
  • DAII players can/will get called up to play on DA teams as a part of the DP program
  • DA II is not a USClub sponsored league
  • DAII will play other DAII teams for regular events and within the DA showcase program
The miss information is due to the fight over ECNL and DA...who has the power?
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USSF oversees the majority of the affiliated leagues such as USYS which USYS National League falls under or US Club Soccer which ECNL and NPL falls under.

From what I have read. Parents in the know are posting.....DAII will fall under US Club soccer and not directly under USSF like Girls DA will be.

For visual posters:
USSF ----> Girls DA
USSF ----> US Club Soccer ----> DAII
USSF ----> US Club Soccer ----> ECNL
USSF ----> USYS ----> National League
USSF ----> USYS ----> Coast Soccer League
USSF ----> USYS ----> ODP
 
gkrent said:
Then why was Slammer creating "Reserve" teams well in advance of DA announcements?
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I suspect they did this in may order to keep those players and the $$ , in the club. Nice foresight. Depending on what is the truth about DAII, a lot of those people could have been played.
 
I called the USDA yesterday. The talks are ongoing and the DAII may be sanctioned by the DA and it may not. There is logistics, referees, and the showcases as well as will it line up with what the DA wants not the club's. So currently some of you are correct this is marketing but according to the representative on the phone it has greater than 50/50 chance of getting done.
 
Sorry to keep on this but think about the 9 proposed club's and the 17 or so DD that will be signing up in fact some already have. That's a lot of people affected by marketing. Plus this has been well discussed this is also about the power play by US soccer and ECNL. They will have to get this figured out really soon. With SCDL and Coast deadlines coming up. I was apart of a USDA presentation at our club that sold DA2 as a sanctioned league. My line of thinking was top talent will all be DA1 now so where can my DD have a platform to compete at a high level. With beach, legends, galaxy etc minus the blues, surf and the other ecnl in the southwest that's a lot of DD that are going to be on a reserve or DA2 team hence SCDL and Coast will be really watered down.... At the end of the day labels are labels I don't care if it's DA2 or whatever just want good competition so my DD can continue to develop.
 
Realmadrid said:
Sorry to keep on this but think about the 9 proposed club's and the 17 or so DD that will be signing up in fact some already have. That's a lot of people affected by marketing. Plus this has been well discussed this is also about the power play by US soccer and ECNL. They will have to get this figured out really soon. With SCDL and Coast deadlines coming up. I was apart of a USDA presentation at our club that sold DA2 as a sanctioned league. My line of thinking was top talent will all be DA1 now so where can my DD have a platform to compete at a high level. With beach, legends, galaxy etc minus the blues, surf and the other ecnl in the southwest that's a lot of DD that are going to be on a reserve or DA2 team hence SCDL and Coast will be really watered down.... At the end of the day labels are labels I don't care if it's DA2 or whatever just want good competition so my DD can continue to develop.
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Agreed. With so much uncertainty about DA2, I'd prefer if my daughter's team (and the other non-ECNL second teams) just opted to play SCDSL this year.
 
glen_dandy said:
Agreed. With so much uncertainty about DA2, I'd prefer if my daughter's team (and the other non-ECNL second teams) just opted to play SCDSL this year.
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I would tend to agree but if the teams I mentioned before are all holding 17 DD's I see the Coast,SCDL being weaker .....someone really needs to figure this out.
 
Realmadrid said:
Sorry to keep on this but think about the 9 proposed club's and the 17 or so DD that will be signing up in fact some already have. That's a lot of people affected by marketing. Plus this has been well discussed this is also about the power play by US soccer and ECNL. They will have to get this figured out really soon. With SCDL and Coast deadlines coming up. I was apart of a USDA presentation at our club that sold DA2 as a sanctioned league. My line of thinking was top talent will all be DA1 now so where can my DD have a platform to compete at a high level. With beach, legends, galaxy etc minus the blues, surf and the other ecnl in the southwest that's a lot of DD that are going to be on a reserve or DA2 team hence SCDL and Coast will be really watered down.... At the end of the day labels are labels I don't care if it's DA2 or whatever just want good competition so my DD can continue to develop.
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You were part of the presentation of the DA at your DD 's club? I'm sorry to say it, but I think you were, at the very least, mislead. But, I would really call it being flat out lied to. Sorry man! Maybe it will still work out.
 
So if I'm getting this right.

Girls DA aka A teams = Albion, Beach, Blues, Eagles, Galaxy SD, LA Galaxy, LA Premier, Legends, Pats, RSC, Slammers, Surf, and WCFC

ECNL = A teams are Strikers, Arsenal and Del Mar Sharks (clubs not Girls DA)
ECNL = B teams are Blues, Eagles, RSC, Slammers, Surf and WCFC

DAII = B teams are Albion, Beach, LA Galaxy, Galaxy SD, LA Premier, Legends and Pats

National League = why bother
 
NoGoal said:
So if I'm getting this right.

Girls DA aka A teams = Albion, Beach, Blues, Eagles, Galaxy SD, LA Galaxy, LA Premier, Legends, Pats, RSC, Slammers, Surf, and WCFC

ECNL = A teams are Strikers, Arsenal and Del Mar Sharks (clubs not Girls DA)
ECNL = B teams are Blues, Eagles, RSC, Slammers, Surf and WCFC

DAII = B teams are Albion, Beach, LA Galaxy, Galaxy SD, LA Premier, Legends and Pats

National League = why bother
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Eagles and RSC will not have ECNL teams, they will be DAII
 
NoGoal said:
So if I'm getting this right.

Girls DA aka A teams = Albion, Beach, Blues, Eagles, Galaxy SD, LA Galaxy, LA Premier, Legends, Pats, RSC, Slammers, Surf, and WCFC

ECNL = A teams are Strikers, Arsenal and Del Mar Sharks (clubs not Girls DA)
ECNL = B teams are Blues, Eagles, RSC, Slammers, Surf and WCFC

DAII = B teams are Albion, Beach, LA Galaxy, Galaxy SD, LA Premier, Legends and Pats

National League = why bother
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Kinda makes your head hurt, right?
 
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