Girls Development Academy

MakeAPlay said:
They are picking mostly the same ECNL clubs other than the NWSL clubs, some clubs that have coaches/DOC's that are national team coaches/scouts and a couple clubs that have won USYS championships since the ECNL teams stopped competing in the USYS championship. Please post one of the accepted clubs that doesn't fit those descriptions.
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There are many objective reasons for me to welcome the DA development: for example the training load is doubled, there will be real pressure on the clubs to do things well, and I am not forced to drive 50x2 minutes everyday if I want my daughter to play in the top league. Everybody in this forum has a dog on the fight, but as long as the comments remain civil it stays a pleasurable read, and everybody can analyze and decide what is right/wrong for them.
 
mbeach said:
You won me over with this argument. Pulisic, choosing to go to that barren club in the fifth division of the Republic of Tubebistan, instead of staying put in an American BDA, is a clear indictment on the US Soccer Federation. God forbid had he gone to the Barcelona or Real Madrid academies, that would have been a clear proof of the incompetence of the US government.
I think that you are uncovering a general principle here, one that can be used for example to establish the incompetence of the California Board of Education: my neighbor Joe Tudin got accepted into CSULB, but had to go to Harvard to obtain his BS. CBoE, you suck, you forced little Joey out of California!
Now, I must confess that I did not understand the comment about his dual citizenship. Was that a curveball, or maybe a hidden reference to the location of the Holy Grail?
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5th division? Borussia Dortmund plays in the Bundesliga and has qualified for the Champions League 5 out of the last 6 years. In case you didn't know what country the Bundesliga is played in.......it's Germany!

Dual-European citizenship affords a player between the age of 16-18 to play overseas. Pulisic was 16 when he signed with Dortmund. Dual-citzenship allowed him to fulfill #2B of article 19. http://www.espnfc.us/blog/fifa/243/post/2786732/fifa-transfer-regulations-article-19
So in a way, it is a road map to the holy grail, which is being able to further develop his game under the guidance at a top European soccer club, instead of remaining stagnant playing BDA for a MLS academy.
 
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mbeach said:
There are many objective reasons for me to welcome the DA development: for example the training load is doubled, there will be real pressure on the clubs to do things well, and I am not forced to drive 50x2 minutes everyday if I want my daughter to play in the top league. Everybody in this forum has a dog on the fight, but as long as the comments remain civil it stays a pleasurable read, and everybody can analyze and decide what is right/wrong for them.
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Dog in the fight? Maybe for ulittle parents. Your a Beach FC parent and why you posted, CRL and National Cup are a viable option for Beach FC's B teams. Is this the sales pitch the club is serving the Beach FC parents? When in truth, ECNL is a better path for college exposure through their showcases compared to CRL and National Cup.

BTW, clubs with DA/ECNL status and DD's verbally committed don't have a dog in this fight.
 
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NoGoal said:
5th division? Borussia Dortmund plays in the Bundesliga and has qualified for the Champions League 5 out of the last 6 years. In case you didn't know what country the Bundesliga is played in.......it's Germany!

Dual-European citizenship affords a player between the age of 16-18 to play overseas. Pulisic was 16 when he signed with Dortmund. Dual-citzenship allowed him to fulfill #2B of article 19. http://www.espnfc.us/blog/fifa/243/post/2786732/fifa-transfer-regulations-article-19
So in a way, it is a road map to the holy grail, which is being able to further develop his game under the guidance at a top European soccer club, instead of remaining stagnant playing BDA for a MLS academy.
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Very funny! Great reply to post #378
 
A question I have and it may seem silly to those that have more knowledge than me, and that's why we use this forum, but won't the DA have college exposure too? Perhaps not as much as ECNL offers but I know for me, who has a child playing at a recent DA accepted club, and is she's an impact player, college is far more important than recruiting to the NWSL. Any thoughts or knowledge regarding college and DA ?
 
Harrypotter03 said:
A question I have and it may seem silly to those that have more knowledge than me, and that's why we use this forum, but won't the DA have college exposure too? Perhaps not as much as ECNL offers but I know for me, who has a child playing at a recent DA accepted club, and is she's an impact player, college is far more important than recruiting to the NWSL. Any thoughts or knowledge regarding college and DA ?
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In all likelihood, the girls DA will have more exposure to college coaches than the ECNL. The pro-ECNL crowd tries to espouse the ECNL as the greatest league ever. (Far from it.) Eventually, a greater percentage of players in the girls DA will be committed to college programs than girls in the ECNL. Plain and simple. It might be to a cellar dweller in the toughest women's soccer conference in the country, or it could be somewhere else. But the DA girls will have their choice of schools, whereas the ECNL players will be getting whatever is leftover.
 
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CaliKlines said:
In all likelihood, the girls DA will have more exposure to college coaches than the ECNL. The pro-ECNL crowd tries to espouse the ECNL as the greatest league ever. (Far from it.) Eventually, A greater percentage of players in the girls DA will be committed to college programs than girls in the ECNL. Plain and simple. It might be to a cellar dweller in the toughest women's soccer conference in the country, or it could be somewhere else. But the DA girls will have their choice of schools, whereas the ECNL players will be getting whatever is leftover.
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Cali I like your passion but this statement is blatantly untrue. The players with accolades will always get recruited over players without them regardless of the league that they play in and that will never change. The GDA has no track record and no format in writing so how can you make this statement?

I'm sorry that your daughter had such a bad experience with ECNL but making up lies to sway people is very Trumpish. Most people had a good experience with it. Maybe your daughter should have tried out for Blues, WCFC, Slammers or Surf. I bet she would have had a better experience. Maybe if she had gotten a YNT call up while with the Strikers you would have a different opinion.
 
CaliKlines said:
In all likelihood, the girls DA will have more exposure to college coaches than the ECNL. The pro-ECNL crowd tries to espouse the ECNL as the greatest league ever. (Far from it.) Eventually, A greater percentage of players in the girls DA will be committed to college programs than girls in the ECNL. Plain and simple. It might be to a cellar dweller in the toughest women's soccer conference in the country, or it could be somewhere else. But the DA girls will have their choice of schools, whereas the ECNL players will be getting whatever is leftover.
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Bold statement from a person that backs a league that has not produced results with the boys. That also doesn't acknowledge the importance of high school sports to girls. That also doesn't understand they actually is a difference between boys and girls.

In theory one magic expect GDA to make over but I say there are two many variables to really say. Let's see what happens and who actually jumps.
 
devupa2.0 said:
I really disagree with this part of your comment.

I enjoy watching soccer in general. However, I really enjoy watching good women's soccer as compared to other women's sports. I think the level of competitive fire and skill that has been developed in women's soccer really makes for good viewing. In some technical ways I also think that the best women in the US are playing BETTER soccer than the men. More connections, more passing back and switching the field to take advantage of numbers, more creativity in the attack, more use of the goal keeper as a field player. There is a lot to be said for the quality of their play and seeing raw ratings as high as we have seen is significant.

However, I think there is an even more important factor that will continue to increase the popularity in the women's game. Young girls playing soccer now have the ability to watch their idols play the sport they love at the highest level of the game, on tv and in person, and they are WOMEN! My daughter doesn't have to watch men playing the game to see perfect examples of technique and willpower. She has tons of examples of phenomenal female players that are getting publicity and being hailed as excellent athletes.

The more that these top women are showcased and our young girls are able to see that, then the more the growth will feed on itself. Softball, volleyball, even basketball haven't seen that kind of stardom and focus on the women's side. I don't ever remember being able to sit in a bar and have hundreds of people cheering for a women's sporting event quite the way we've seen for women's soccer in the last few years. Possibly for some Olympic events, but even then I'm not sure.

And it has crossed over to some folks that don't really even follow soccer. The success of the women's national team has put soccer on the radar screen for many parents that might not have considered soccer as an option for their daughters. This will only grow the momentum.

I know Ronaldo's looks have helped his marketability. I'm sure Hope Solo's looks help her too. However, I know a ton of people that are interested in watching both men and women play good soccer. It's the good soccer part that attracts the viewers. If they are playing the game at the highest level, then I don't think their looks will matter that much. Messi isn't the best looking kid around, but a ton of people want to see him play because he is incredible.

As long as our top women continue playing excellent soccer and doing well on the international scene, it will help feed the dreams of DD's around the nation - that will only grow the sport and its ratings.
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Abbey Wambach net worth - 4 million
Mia Hamm net worth - 10 million
alex morgan net worth - 3 million

Ann Kournikova net worth - 50 million
Venus Williams net worth - 75 million
Chris Everett - 32.5 million
 
devupa2.0 said:
I really disagree with this part of your comment.

I enjoy watching soccer in general. However, I really enjoy watching good women's soccer as compared to other women's sports. I think the level of competitive fire and skill that has been developed in women's soccer really makes for good viewing. In some technical ways I also think that the best women in the US are playing BETTER soccer than the men. More connections, more passing back and switching the field to take advantage of numbers, more creativity in the attack, more use of the goal keeper as a field player. There is a lot to be said for the quality of their play and seeing raw ratings as high as we have seen is significant.

However, I think there is an even more important factor that will continue to increase the popularity in the women's game. Young girls playing soccer now have the ability to watch their idols play the sport they love at the highest level of the game, on tv and in person, and they are WOMEN! My daughter doesn't have to watch men playing the game to see perfect examples of technique and willpower. She has tons of examples of phenomenal female players that are getting publicity and being hailed as excellent athletes.

The more that these top women are showcased and our young girls are able to see that, then the more the growth will feed on itself. Softball, volleyball, even basketball haven't seen that kind of stardom and focus on the women's side. I don't ever remember being able to sit in a bar and have hundreds of people cheering for a women's sporting event quite the way we've seen for women's soccer in the last few years. Possibly for some Olympic events, but even then I'm not sure.

And it has crossed over to some folks that don't really even follow soccer. The success of the women's national team has put soccer on the radar screen for many parents that might not have considered soccer as an option for their daughters. This will only grow the momentum.

I know Ronaldo's looks have helped his marketability. I'm sure Hope Solo's looks help her too. However, I know a ton of people that are interested in watching both men and women play good soccer. It's the good soccer part that attracts the viewers. If they are playing the game at the highest level, then I don't think their looks will matter that much. Messi isn't the best looking kid around, but a ton of people want to see him play because he is incredible.

As long as our top women continue playing excellent soccer and doing well on the international scene, it will help feed the dreams of DD's around the nation - that will only grow the sport and its ratings.
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Disagree. For women the audience is interested in hot looking players that win.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
Abbey Wambach net worth - 4 million
Mia Hamm net worth - 10 million
alex morgan net worth - 3 million

Ann Kournikova net worth - 50 million
Venus Williams net worth - 75 million
Chris Everett - 32.5 million
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Maria Sharapova -195 million
Serena Williams - 160 million
Annika Sorenstam - 40 million
Marta - 13 million, US WNT players are no where near Marta!

Kerri Walsh and Misty May Treanor volleyball and Amanda Beard (swimming) all have the same net worth as Abby Wambach at 4 million.

Gabby Douglas (gymnastics) 20 yrs old has the same net worth as Alex Morgan!

Allyson Felix net worth running track is 8.5 million!
 
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MakeAPlay said:
Cali I like your passion but this statement is blatantly untrue. The players with accolades will always get recruited over players without them regardless of the league that they play in and that will never change.
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Please show me where I said anything to the contrary? I have never indicated that players without accolades will get recruited over girls with accolades. It is my contention that the girls with the accolades will be playing in the DA. Blues, Surf, Slammers, and Eagles have committed to putting their best players on their DA teams, as have Beach, Legends FC, Galaxy SD, and LA Premier. Those clubs usually produce players with some very strong pedigrees. Concur? So if the players with the accolades are playing in the DA, then where are the college coaches going to recruit? Won't the coaches recruit from the strongest league with the strongest players?

MakeAPlay said:
I'm sorry that your daughter had such a bad experience with ECNL but making up lies to sway people is very Trumpish. Most people had a good experience with it. Maybe your daughter should have tried out for Blues, WCFC, Slammers or Surf. I bet she would have had a better experience. Maybe if she had gotten a YNT call up while with the Strikers you would have a different opinion.
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We had a great experience with Strikers. Met some wonderful players and families, but unfortunately, something was missing on the pitch. I take umbrage at the oft-repeated notion that "the ECNL is the best place to have your player." That is the Trumpish lie designed to sway people away from high performing, non-ECNL clubs like Beach, LA Galaxy (north and south), Albion, and of course, the 4x national champions, Legends FC. Strikers is "the ECNL". Correct? So when you say how great the ECNL is, aren't you referring to Strikers? And Arsenal? And RSC? As well as NC Fusion, Santa Rosa United, Utah Avalanche, FC Boston, and even the ECNL President's FC Wisconsin Eclipse? Give me a break...my kid would never be where she is today if she had stayed in "the ECNL". And she won't be riding the pine in the rain when she gets to the next level either.
 
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CaliKlines said:
Give me a break...my kid would never be where she is today if she had stayed in "the ECNL". And she won't be riding the pine in the rain when she gets to the next level either.
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I not sure I agree with your first sentence. Good luck to your DD and her education.

NC State Women's Soccer
2015 - 4-wins-15 -losses
2014 - 2-wins-15-losses
2013 - 7 wins - 12 - losses
2012 - 5 wins - 14 losses
 
CaliKlines said:
Give me a break...my kid would never be where she is today if she had stayed in "the ECNL". And she won't be riding the pine in the rain when she gets to the next level either.
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IMO, If your DD played on a top half ECNL SoCal club. She would have been recruited either way. I've seen players without any individual accolades who only played ECNL and suprised at the university they committed to (positive surprise of course).
 
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NoGoal said:
IMO, If your DD played on a top half ECNL SoCal club. She would have been recruited either way. I've seen players without any individual accolades who only played ECNL and suprised at the university they committed to (positive surprise of course).
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Maybe, but who knows? The reality is that she was recruited and committed to the school of her choice without any assistance from the ECNL. Maybe in the future, you should just call it "the EC".
 
CaliKlines said:
Please show me where I said anything to the contrary? I have never indicated that players without accolades will get recruited over girls with accolades. It is my contention that the girls with the accolades will be playing in the DA. Blues, Surf, Slammers, and Eagles have committed to putting their best players on their DA teams, as have Beach, Legends FC, Galaxy SD, and LA Premier. Those clubs usually produce players with some very strong pedigrees. Concur? So if the players with the accolades are playing in the DA, then where are the college coaches going to recruit? Won't the coaches recruit from the strongest league with the strongest players?



We had a great experience with Strikers. Met some wonderful players and families, but unfortunately, something was missing on the pitch. I take umbrage at the oft-repeated notion that "the ECNL is the best place to have your player." That is the Trumpish lie designed to sway people away from high performing, non-ECNL clubs like Beach, LA Galaxy (north and south), Albion, and of course, the 4x national champions, Legends FC. Strikers is "the ECNL". Correct? So when you say how great the ECNL is, aren't you referring to Strikers? And Arsenal? And RSC? As well as NC Fusion, Santa Rosa United, Utah Avalanche, FC Boston, and even the ECNL President's FC Wisconsin Eclipse? Give me a break...my kid would never be where she is today if she had stayed in "the ECNL". And she won't be riding the pine in the rain when she gets to the next level either.
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Okay let me try to respond in order. First, the girls with accolades will play where the families choose to play which initially likely will not be the DA for many of the committed players. I like that you say that the clubs have committed to putting players somewhere when the families of the players will be making that decision not the clubs. Second, not one of those non-ECNL clubs that you mentioned has a better record of producing national team and/or college players than ANY of the ECNL clubs in SoCal. Regarding where your kid would be that is your judgement as I don't know your kid. Kinda weird that you mentioned riding the pine. I can assure you my player won't be riding the pine this year and I won't get into where but it is a top program. I repeat that the coaches will recruit the players with accolades first and foremost.

Sorry about your experience with Strikers. They seem to have plenty of strong players going to good schools. You mention the 4X USYS national championship Legends club. How many of those titles came prior to the ECNL clubs pulling out of the USYS championships? We all know that the number is a big fat zero. That is the same for Beach and Albion, LA Premier and Galaxy have yet to win a title in the watered down USYS so what does that say about their worthiness? We won't even mention the NWSL teams because they are just complicit beneficiaries of the power grab and aren't expected to have actually done anything.
 
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