hahaha. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
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hahaha. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
NoGoal
DA
Kool-aid? My DD is already committed and graduates this coming May. I am only posting to give back what I learned going through the process with my DD. The new DA league will case ripples than the tidal wave ECNL did when it dethroned National League and CSL Premier as the #1 gaming circuit in the country. Then again you wouldn't know would you.
Where as you are posting garbage that doesn't help ulittle parents navigate through the changing club soccer landscape. You have nothing to offer to the forum!
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shales1002
GOLD
Sorry, they picked the clubs who had the money to buy in. I can't wait to hear about how much fees have increased.
Just for the record, I would totally support the DA if they were actually providing something different. Selecting the same clubs, and a few clubs that have been begging for ECNL doesn't count as change.
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Sombitch
SILVER ELITE
Yes absolutely because some of their studs were still there.
Sombitch
SILVER ELITE
Surf U17 without their three national players was far from an EGSL team
slammers GU15 without their national teamer wasn't even close to an EGSL team
My DD GU15 team this past season without their three national teamers was still far from an EGSL team and won a very competitive southwest conference
I am not pro or anti ecnl, every kid needs a certain environment to thrive. Merely showing the statistics
NoGoal
DA
Sombitch, We must both be clueless!
Appreciate your post. Think of your team minus not one, not three, but minus the 10 best players, that's all I'm pointing out. Maybe not quite an EGSL team but closer to one than not. Just my opinion. And I completely agree with your last statement.
Now for NoGoal posting that mid majors would recruit the remaining talent, it may be true, but mostly from their ID camps if they show well. Their recruiting budget will be mainly for the DA. ECNL will still operate, but minus the best players will not be the same. Smart parents will now shop for the quality of the coaching rather than a patch. There were already many marginal games within ECNL, imagine now without the top talent. There are many great coaches inside the ECNL, as well as outside. Just mho.
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Thank you for posting and sharing your experiences, always good to see the parents who have gone through it pass along information to help others make the best decision the possibly can for their kids. Keep it coming!
Random thoughts and questions about DA and ECNL.
When ECNL was created, was there the same type of (negative and positive) buzz?
Does anyone know the economics for ECNL clubs now versus what it was like before ECNL? Have fees for their non-encl teams increased more than teams that don't have ECNL status? Have they increased their total player population more than non-ecnl clubs?
How many players on an ECNL team receive some sort of financial help from the club?
How will funding for DA clubs work? If US Soccer is giving each team a stipend, is there a requirement that it be allocated for player fees / travel? Does each team get equal funding? Or can a club do whatever it wants with the money? (IE - Give the DOC a raise, hire more coaches, spend money on coach education, buy equipment, build a clubhouse, etc). Do clubs need to provide US Soccer with financials for all teams under their umbrella? (Because it seems that a club could do some funny accounting stuff with this.)
Many clubs have coaches that also coach in high school. How will this be impacted by the no HS for DA players rule?
And unless being a professional female soccer player can become a viable career for more than 30 women in the US, I don't quite understand the need for DA for females.
When ECNL was created, was there the same type of (negative and positive) buzz?
Does anyone know the economics for ECNL clubs now versus what it was like before ECNL? Have fees for their non-encl teams increased more than teams that don't have ECNL status? Have they increased their total player population more than non-ecnl clubs?
How many players on an ECNL team receive some sort of financial help from the club?
How will funding for DA clubs work? If US Soccer is giving each team a stipend, is there a requirement that it be allocated for player fees / travel? Does each team get equal funding? Or can a club do whatever it wants with the money? (IE - Give the DOC a raise, hire more coaches, spend money on coach education, buy equipment, build a clubhouse, etc). Do clubs need to provide US Soccer with financials for all teams under their umbrella? (Because it seems that a club could do some funny accounting stuff with this.)
Many clubs have coaches that also coach in high school. How will this be impacted by the no HS for DA players rule?
And unless being a professional female soccer player can become a viable career for more than 30 women in the US, I don't quite understand the need for DA for females.
Pretty much.
If a club is fielding 3 DA teams, then all they need to do is add 8 uLittle "C", "D", and "E" teams all run by two coaches who are fresh out of college. Those eight ulittle teams can generate an excess of 300K (~15 players per team X $2,500 = $37,500 X 8 = $300K). Pay the two college grad coaches $35k each. Make the parents pay for uniforms and tournaments. Stick the teams on a 20x20 ft. postage stamp space on fields the club is already renting. Then the club still comes out on top of roughly $250K in profit off "elite/academy" bronze ulittle teams. And the DA and ECNL branding will just attract even more ulittle parents ready and willing to pay $2,500 a year to be on the new "F" teams with the hope of climbing the ladder. After all, there are so many success stories of clubs promoting from within.
Pretty good "Non-Profit" racket they got going on.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Same coaches, new name. How does this help?
The best athletes and players would be the best regardless of ECNL, GDA, etc.
99% of the so cal girls will never set foot on the pitch for the US NT. Some of these girls on the team play there for a good 10 years!!!! Once the marketing dollars get behind PUGH there will be no one in so cal replacing her for 10-15 years.
Also there no money in professional soccer for the majority who make it. The janitor at your local elementary school makes more and has better benefits.
The goal should be play 2 years in college, then switch your major to something of substance so you can earn over six figures.
The best athletes and players would be the best regardless of ECNL, GDA, etc.
99% of the so cal girls will never set foot on the pitch for the US NT. Some of these girls on the team play there for a good 10 years!!!! Once the marketing dollars get behind PUGH there will be no one in so cal replacing her for 10-15 years.
Also there no money in professional soccer for the majority who make it. The janitor at your local elementary school makes more and has better benefits.
The goal should be play 2 years in college, then switch your major to something of substance so you can earn over six figures.
NoGoal
DA
Ummm, from what I heard on the Boys DA side. Boys DA does NOT hold as many college showcase events! So how exactly will that eat into a mid-majors coaches budget? Also do you think mid-majors conference coaches like a Wyoming or Boise St. will be focusing all their time, effort and budget trying to recruit Blue Chippers on a DA team?
I never posted ECNL wouldn't be the same, of course DA will take some bite out of ECNL, but until DA fields teams in every age group vs 2 year combined age groups. ECNL will still be a viable option for the next level of players below....and why Blues, Slammers, Surf, and Eagles in SoCal will have a inherit advantage over the other clubs only offering DA or ECNL.
CaliKlines
Well-Known Member
So, are you saying that the ECNL is going to be the main focus of Wyoming and Boise State, and other like institutions?
Hit the nail on the head
MakeAPlay
DA
I can tell you that those schools don't waste time with blue chip players that are never going to go there. If one of the top 50 players in the country happen to be from their home state then maybe they make a play at them. Otherwise they don't waste the time. The other side of the coin is that the players that land mostly YNT players are going to continue to do their scouting at YNT camps with players that have for the most part already been identified. DA will not change that. Also many of the top schools identify players that are YNT before they even get on US soccer's radar.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
GDA's goal is to produce national players for their team not for college. Let's not forget that.
US soccer's self preservation is reliant on the success of the national team. They could care less if our girls play, attend or flunk out of college. Let's get real here.
US soccer's self preservation is reliant on the success of the national team. They could care less if our girls play, attend or flunk out of college. Let's get real here.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Low mid majors like Wyoming, UOP, UC Davis, D2 and D3 schools lose 99% of any blue chips they chase. These schools have to work very hard in the recruiting process to find those kids that develop late.
MakeAPlay
DA
I agree with most everything that you said. However, Sanchez is in line to supplement not replace Pugh. Plus there are several other positions that will become available in the next 5-6 years. Lloyd is going to get married after the Olympics so count on her being gone in the next 4 years (she is 32 and isn't going to wait past 36 to start a family). A-Rod and Sydney Leroux are likely not coming back or will be gone for good in the next 5 years too. There is definitely going to be a lot more opportunity to break into the girls club in the next 5 years and Pugh and company are just the beginning.
MakeAPlay
DA
They don't develop national team players. D1 college soccer does. Horan is the exception. Pugh will be reporting to UCLA in a month and a half. The DA will not change that. They miss a ton of players that college soccer uncovers.