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Map I said low-key. I am vegan on this forum NO Beef at all. I just find it strange when a team can muscle and kickball themselves to a Natty.
Really? That's why ODP scouts are at ulittle national and state cup as well as at CRL events. Even if your DD wasn't recommended like mine wasn't. It doesn't mean they can't stand-out on the pitch and receive an invite all on their own merits. Then those players still have to tryout with over 130 girls to be named to a final 18 team with 4 alternates? Please!I am discussing the process in selecting the ODP teams. It's more exclusive than inclusive due to Coaches making the recommendations. I am sure there are wonderful players on the ODP, but the results translate that it's a broken system.
People need to get their head out of the sand, to actually realize, that there is a problem. Good Luck!Really? That's why ODP scouts are at ulittle national and state cup as well as at CRL events. Even if your DD wasn't recommended like mine wasn't. It doesn't mean they can't stand-out on the pitch and receive an invite all on their own merits. Then those players still have to tryout with over 130 girls to be named to a final 18 team with 4 alternates? Please!
With Girls DA coming Fall season. Cal-South ODP will no longer field the best players anymore.Really? That's why ODP scouts are at ulittle national and state cup as well as at CRL events. Even if your DD wasn't recommended like mine wasn't. It doesn't mean they can't stand-out on the pitch and receive an invite all on their own merits. Then those players still have to tryout with over 130 girls to be named to a final 18 team with 4 alternates? Please!
You have no idea, because your DD hasn't gone through the process. #hatersPeople need to get their head out of the sand, to actually realize, that there is a problem. Good Luck!
Map I said low-key. I am vegan on this forum NO Beef at all. I just find it strange when a team can muscle and kickball themselves to a Natty.
You're a 2003 ulittle parent who went to watch the A bracket at Vegas Cup this past weekend. You seriously clueless! Maybe you'll have better luck this Fall with Girls DA.People need to get their head out of the sand, to actually realize, that there is a problem. Good Luck!
Cal South ODP has NEVER fielded all the "best" players. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Excellent players, for sure, that can and usually do beat all other regions. I will say "Some" of the best, to be fair. I have said this before, Cal south could field multiple Allstar teams to go compete regionally, and finish as a group at the top.With Girls DA coming Fall season. Cal-South ODP will no longer field the best players anymore.
Ulittle parents need to understand and this applies to CRL, ECNL, ODP, ID2, PDP, YNT, college recruiting and soon Girls DA. A player being selected to any ID team or recruited for college soccer is based on a coaches player preference fitting their style of play. If you are hating ODP now, you will hate on the college recruiting process. It's all the same!Cal South ODP has NEVER fielded all the "best" players. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Excellent players, for sure, that can and usually do beat all other regions. I will say "Some" of the best, to be fair. I have said this before, Cal south could field multiple Allstar teams to go compete regionally, and finish as a group at the top.
Not hating on ODP, at all. Just throwing some realism about it. Just not a believer in the process or structure. Been there, done that with one of mine.Ulittle parents need to understand and this applies to CRL, ECNL, ODP, ID2, PDP, YNT, and college recruiting. A player being selected to any ID team or recruited for college soccer is based on a coaches players preference. If you are hating ODP now, you will hate on the college recruiting process. It's all the same!
Cal South ODP has NEVER fielded all the "best" players. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise. Excellent players, for sure, that can and usually do beat all other regions. I will say "Some" of the best, to be fair. I have said this before, Cal south could field multiple Allstar teams to go compete regionally, and finish as a group at the top.
Again, never said ODP wasn't good for players. It certainly is. Great for the resume. But, no MAP, even for your players time, it did not represent 99% of the best. That's your opinion. Makes sense you would think so. Even if ALL 18 + 4 went on to have decorated futures, doesn't make your assessment fact. Sorry.When my player was first in ODP it was 99% of the best players in her birth year. When she was a junior in their last year of ODP about 6-8 players that should have been on the team opted out (mostly Slammers players) and one player who was a starter a year before didn't make the roster for some reason (and she was recently called into U23 WNT camp!).
ODP was good for my player and most of her national championship team has been called into at least one YNT camp.
Not hating on ODP, at all. Just throwing some realism about it. Just not a believer in the process or structure. Been there, done that with one of mine.
I agree with the notion that GDA SoCal Conference will be watered down. ECNL has 8 SoCal clubs, Strikers and Arsenal had a hard time fielding competitive teams. GDA has what 14 clubs? Even if we add, Legends, Beach, and Carlsbad into the count....that would total 9 competitive clubs minus Arsenal and Strikers. There are 5 additional clubs that isn't needed in SoCal.
Your another parent who's DD was never invited to tryout for the 1999 ODP team right. It's why you thanked Domestictravelers post.Kick, if you disagree with them you are labeled a "HATER" and your posts are denoted as "Dumb". It is actually kind of funny, if it weren't so juvenile. Just don't have an opinion and you'll be alright.
There is plenty of ugly soccer being played at the college level (USC and SDSU come to mind). There is also plenty of ugly soccer at the elite youth level. I have seen ECNL championship games that were ugly kickball. I have also seen good possession teams reduced to playing kickball when they face an opponent that won't let them play their normal game.I hear you. It was a surprise to me that they were able to pull it off. Just check out a replay of any of their tournament games especially the ones against Georgetown or West Virginia. You want to see a team use it against them watch their games against Cal and UCLA.
Again, never said ODP wasn't good for players. It certainly is. Great for the resume. But, no MAP, even for your players time, it did not represent 99% of the best. That's your opinion. Makes sense you would think so. Even if ALL 18 + 4 went on to have decorated futures, doesn't make your assessment fact. Sorry.
Are we talking about competition or development? "GDA SoCal Conference will be watered down" seems to target competitiveness - that is, is it hard to beat teams within the GDA conference. A challenging league schedule appears to be a hallmark of the ECNL league schedule. Teams work hard to win each game. This is a very team-centered paradigm. The best teams in a given year become ECNL championship teams.
By contrast, the GDA purports to shift to a player-centered paradigm where team wins and losses are not the focus. The process of player development is the measure for success, not championship teams. The GDA wants to develop great players, which the GDA believes will lead to great national teams in the future. The GDA purports to forego current team wins for the larger goal of creating great players to populate future national teams.
I think it is fair to say that the GDA will waterdown the SoCal team competitions when compared to the ECNL model of team championships. The crux of the debate is whether great future national teams are created through player-centered development models (GDA) or through hard fought elite team competition such as the ECNL model.
We can agree that the GDA will develop a larger base of girls in SoCal over a four-year period (as compared to the smaller number of ECNL rosters). Only time will tell if that larger development pool will yield a higher quality of player that GDA seems to want. When the same clubs and coaches are merely shifting from ECNL to GDA, it seems far less likely that anything will change. Thus, the focus on the competitiveness of the proposed GDA SoCal Conference.
Kick, if you disagree with them you are labeled a "HATER" and your posts are denoted as "Dumb". It is actually kind of funny, if it weren't so juvenile. Just don't have an opinion and you'll be alright.
Oh man....you posted the natty USC plays ugly soccer.There is plenty of ugly soccer being played at the college level (USC and SDSU come to mind). There is also plenty of ugly soccer at the elite youth level. I have seen ECNL championship games that were ugly kickball. I have also seen good possession teams reduced to playing kickball when they face an opponent that won't let them play their normal game.