Girls Development Academy

ECNL will be to DA what Premier is to ECNL. So many folks jumped to less than optimal situations just for the ecnl distinction. Plenty of players on the roster that would be better served elsewhere. A "reputable" or at least well know coach was over heard telling parents that every girl who is on an ecnl team gets a scholarship. Easy to fool the under informed.

Thanks to 17SD posting this article in another thread. The executive director and president of Real Colorado, has the same opinion as I do. That DA combining 2 age groups leaves out college level players from the mix, unless the club as GA and ECNL.

"Now you merge everything into three [GDA] teams, so there’s tons of players left over. And all these players are going to colleges and they’re playing ball; what do you do with them? So we’re playing in both leagues,” said Donaldson. “You have to. Because you can’t have somebody who is going to go play college ball and say, ‘you can no longer play for Real Colorado.’ We have enough players and we have enough good coaches that we can make it work. So this group, it’s the last go-round for them, because some of them are 99s and some of them are 2000s.”

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/club...lorado-coach-rips-ussfs-ecnl-scheduling-snub/
 
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Great post Nogoal. I'm just glad my dd is done with the club scene and I don't have to give any of those suckers another dime.

P.s. Wasn't BJ Snow the coach at UCLA who tricked a bunch of the girls to sign away their scholarships when he took over the colleges soccer program (slipped the forms in with a bunch of other paperwork he asked them to sign)? What a great guy.
 
Great post Nogoal. I'm just glad my dd is done with the club scene and I don't have to give any of those suckers another dime.

P.s. Wasn't BJ Snow the coach at UCLA who tricked a bunch of the girls to sign away their scholarships when he took over the colleges soccer program (slipped the forms in with a bunch of other paperwork he asked them to sign)? What a great guy.

Did he coach for local club before the UCLA job?
 
Great post Nogoal. I'm just glad my dd is done with the club scene and I don't have to give any of those suckers another dime.

P.s. Wasn't BJ Snow the coach at UCLA who tricked a bunch of the girls to sign away their scholarships when he took over the colleges soccer program (slipped the forms in with a bunch of other paperwork he asked them to sign)? What a great guy.

If he did that he is a despicable person. The current coaching staff is excellent.
 
Great post Nogoal. I'm just glad my dd is done with the club scene and I don't have to give any of those suckers another dime.

P.s. Wasn't BJ Snow the coach at UCLA who tricked a bunch of the girls to sign away their scholarships when he took over the colleges soccer program (slipped the forms in with a bunch of other paperwork he asked them to sign)? What a great guy.

Noway did he really do that?
 
Great post Nogoal. I'm just glad my dd is done with the club scene and I don't have to give any of those suckers another dime.
Count me in as happy too. DD is out of soccer, with 1 year left, but no regrets (other than painful coaches/doc speeches about getting DDs scholarship monies... what a bunch of shit!). Still have great memories of seeing Marley Canales play club/HS; and seeing Mallory in person playing; along with watching some great players playing ECNL (actual, REAL soccer!). Shout out to Abdul - YOUR dd made it, Congrats!
 
Second girls DA expansion worrying for ECNL
Article Written by Will Parchman
Published: July 12, 2016
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There was never much of a chance the ECNL would be able to throw a velvet rope of exclusivity around its biggest, most prestigious clubs. As the girls Development Academy elbowed itself into the discussion about who develops the best and brightest in the country, there would always be some bleed-over.

For the ECNL, the task was always about limiting the damage and continuing to prop up the tenets of development that got them here. The latter is unassailable, buttressed by a massive number of U.S. YNT players and a seven-year history that’s given them unique perspective. Whatever U.S. Soccer does with its academy, it will never be able to usurp those hard-won lessons.

But the former is suddenly on shaky ground. Damage limitation in the form of defecting clubs is suddenly more untenable than ever.

The U.S. Soccer-led girls Development Academy made waves in early July by announcing 25 clubs had agreed to join for the 2017 season. It was the first wave of additions, and while it was an important stepping stone it didn’t tell us everything. PDA led the charge, and 60 percent of the NWSL was represented, but there were still some huge clubs left out of the mix. Were they abstaining, or were they simply biding their time?

After the first jab, U.S. Soccer came across with a haymaker on July 9. It announced it added 28 more clubs for the 2017-18 season, bringing the total to 53. And it emphatically answered the question as to whether the ECNL had something to worry about in its new club competition.

After this second wave of additions, the answer, emphatically, is yes. The ECNL has something to worry about. Here’s what we learned after the girls DA’s second significant round of expansion.

— PDA was the club the DA needed in its first round of expansion to cement the league as a going concern for the ECNL. The NWSL clubs were nice, as were a few of the other heavy hitters, but PDA made it all very real. Even if PDA keeps teams in the ECNL, there’s a significant chance their most prestigious teams and their best players are shuttled off to U.S. Soccer’s league. The ECNL simply couldn’t afford to lose another major pillar.

The second round of expansion was another crushing body blow. Not only did the girls DA add another NWSL team (the Washington Spirit), but it folded in the Dallas Sting, Dallas Texans and Eclipse Select, three of the 10 biggest girls soccer development operations in the country. All three routinely pump out national team-quality players, and the fact that both are headed for the DA does not bode particularly well for the ECNL.

Of course that doesn’t mean all three are abandoning the ECNL. It’s unclear how teams will partition their players in the future, and whether some go all-in on the DA or opt to split time between the two. But the writing is on the wall that the new thing is gathering steam as big club after big club signs up for its ranks. As one joins after another, the ECNL is left wondering how many exclusive clubs it’ll have at the end of the 2016-17 season.

— Speaking of 2016-17, the upcoming season is a big one for the ECNL. It’s the league’s last as a lone wolf atop the girls development apparatus in this country, and they’ll have to make good use of it if they hope to stave off the charge of the DA. What that means is still up the air. Does the ECNL opt to use its brief bit of leverage to attempt to sway its clubs to keep their more muscled half in the league? It has the unique advantage over the DA for the next 12 months of having these clubs’ collective ear while they still have their best players stashed in the league. They could well pull off a coup in that time.

But it’s clear U.S. Soccer has newness on its side, and that’s an intriguing prospect for much of the league. For clubs dissatisfied with the ECNL’s more relaxed standards as opposed to what’s being offered by U.S. Soccer, this could be the opportunity they’ve been awaiting for years.

— Of course some clubs don’t agree. Not long after the first round of expansion went live, Ohio Elite, an ECNL member club since the league arrived in 2009, went public with its pledge to stay in the ECNL. Among their gripes with the DA, they simply stated that they had no real reason to jump for the new league. How many clubs follow their lead is uncertain, but they increasingly look like outliers after this recent 28-club announcement. The DA is now at 53 clubs with a year left to get to the boys benchmark of around 80, which is also generally where the ECNL settles. It looks like they should have little trouble adding big names too, another trend that has to be somewhat dissatisfying for the ECNL.

— The ECNL long hung its hat on its fully national organizational model. It has clubs all over the country in every major market and in a bunch of minor ones too, and it has long said that each of those needs to be dealt with differently. That drove the ECNL’s more hands-off approach with its requirements, allowing each club to determine what was best for them in the confines of their unique market. If the ECNL couldn’t determine what was best for those clubs, they reasoned, the boots on the ground certainly could.

The ECNL’s best chance at avoiding a mass exodus to the DA was essentially hoping its clubs agreed. After years of allowing them to make their own big decisions, it had to hope they appreciated that approach and didn’t buy into U.S. Soccer’s more heavy-handed view toward development.

But it appears that hasn’t happened. Even if the Ohio Elites opted to not leave the ECNL in any form, the nation’s biggest clubs - the PDAs, the Dallas Stings, the So Cal Blues’ - were of more interest in that they likely felt (and feel) as if they have as good a grasp on how to produce players as anyone based on their track record. Big clubs tend to be more intractable in how they view development, and convincing them they needed more help was always going to be a difficult sell.

Credit U.S. Soccer. They’ve already brought many of the country’s biggest girls clubs on board, and at least one more round of significant expansion should tell us even more about how far the girls DA has already come in such a short period of time. But either way, if the ECNL wasn’t worried before, it should be now.
 
To me it is simple the ECNL must allow clubs in the DA and in ECNL to continue to be in the ECNL while this will diminish the level some I believe it will allow the ECNL to do what it has done well and that is get players in college.
 
No. The correct thing to do is accept applications to the ecnl and be poised to replace every GDA club with a club in close proximity.

IMO GDA will be battling the unknown. We don't know if girls are willing to give up so much for so little. Only a less than 1% shot take the YNT awaits them. Million dollar contracts don't exist for them.
 
No. The correct thing to do is accept applications to the ecnl and be poised to replace every GDA club with a club in close proximity.

IMO GDA will be battling the unknown. We don't know if girls are willing to give up so much for so little. Only a less than 1% shot take the YNT awaits them. Million dollar contracts don't exist for them.
Give up so much what?
 
No. The correct thing to do is accept applications to the ecnl and be poised to replace every GDA club with a club in close proximity.
Looks like that isn't going to happen. A buddy text this to me yesterday. DA clubs are not leaving ECNL as ECNL is marketing that the most successful clubs are playing ECNL the 2017-2018 season during DA's inaugural season.
http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/home/920431.html

As I posted prior, there will be clubs participating in both Girls DA and ECNL. These are the clubs that will dominant the market in SoCal. The Girls DA only clubs such as Legends, Beach, LA Premier and Carlsbad. When they conduct open tryouts the spring of 2017 and over half of their A team players DO NOT make the DA team will be very upset. I can almost guarantee families will feel a sense of betrayal after the club cuts their DDs. What is the club going to say, "we had a lot of new talent trying out for the DA teams, unfortunately we can only offer your DD a spot on our B team that will be playing National League". They will then go to other DA clubs to tryout and if they don't make it there....ECNL will be the final destination for those players.

The same can be said, for the ECNL clubs who do not have DA status. Their best Ulittle players will be trying out for DA clubs. Why are they gonna play for an ECNL only club? When they can play for a club that has ECNL and DA affiliation. This way there is an opportunity to be called up to the DA team.
 
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What has happened often in the Boys DA is that Seniors (or even Juniors with firm early college commitments) bail out of DA and enjoy the game with their HS friends.
That's good to know. It's the early years of high school though, that are so important for fitting in and finding your group. Being a part of a high school team in freshman and sophomore years can really help a girl navigate through her high school experience. In the interest of having a happy confident well rounded child, it's not something we're willing to forgo.
 
Pro DA people are assuming girls want to play soccer like a job. Practice 4x per week, with less games and potentially less play if the rosters are huge.

Also u are assuming the girls will have the same same thinking as the boy do with regard to giving up high school. Girls commit earlier so are we r "talking about them leaving DA as juniors?
 
Why not? The US WNT roster has 24 spots, and there are going to be approximately 70 Girls DA clubs, with 3 teams per club, with 23 players per team. That means that every year, they will have a pool of 1610 stud players feeding those 24 spots. That seems very doable.

Yup, you get the big picture.
 
Second girls DA expansion worrying for
For clubs dissatisfied with the ECNL’s more relaxed standards as opposed to what’s being offered by U.S. Soccer, this could be the opportunity they’ve been awaiting for years.

The ECNL long hung its hat on its fully national organizational model. It has clubs all over the country in every major market and in a bunch of minor ones too, and it has long said that each of those needs to be dealt with differently. That drove the ECNL’s more hands-off approach with its requirements, allowing each club to determine what was best for them in the confines of their unique market. If the ECNL couldn’t determine what was best for those clubs, they reasoned, the boots on the ground certainly could.

Thanks for sharing another interesting perspective. IMHO no one wants to be controlled more. Really? Clubs dissatisfied because the standards are relaxed and they get to make decisions on their OWN. Now, we have another entity ,GDA, that we have begging to be controlled by? Honestly, no teacher (coach) wants someone telling them to do with their team as every team has their own dynamics. Sounds like one size fits all approach to soccer, and we all know how that's worked out in our schools :eek:
 
GDA's goal is to produce national players for their team not for college. Let's not forget that.
US soccer's self preservation is reliant on the success of the national team. They could care less if our girls play, attend or flunk out of college. Let's get real here.
Indeed
 
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