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mahrez said:
Your a parent who doesn't listen very well so let's take the blinkers off:
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And who are you? Some guy who borrows the name of a Leicester City premier league player and then says he is a scout.

You want to take the blinkers off, then let's do it. Say who you are and who you work for and what analysis you do and what reports you write up.

#20, #18, #9, #8 #43, #11, #15,#1, #7,#13. Are all continuous Galaxy players. If you know so much please tell us all how long these players have been with the Galaxy? Or are which ones have been called into the YNT camps.
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Why are you even bringing up youth NT camps? That has nothing to do with anything we've discussed.

You've listed 10 players. Galaxy lists 21 players on their roster and I've heard, although I don't know, they actually have 24. That's a minimum of 11 new players and possibly up to 14. How is it even possible to say that a team with a minimum of 11 new players is continuous from last year? It's mind boggling that I actually have to discuss this with you.

Of the 10 players you mentioned #20 and #8 have been with Galaxy practically since the folding of Cosmos, and never played with the Galaxy 03 team when my son's team played them. I believe, though I cannot say with 100% certainty because I don't really care, that #20 and #8 played all their games with the 02 team last year. I know #20 is now playing with the 03s. I've heard that #8 plays occasionally with the 03s as well. As far as I'm concerned, #20 and #8 are new additions to the 03 team because they are now actually playing with the 03s. By my count, that is 13 new additions. If you want to take #8 and #20 off the list because they have actually played with the 03s last year, or you think just being rostered with the 03s is sufficient even if they don't play with them, it's still 11 new additions to a team. That is not a continuous team.

I'm not going to waste time discussing individual Galaxy players. There is no issue with any of the Galaxy players, they are all fantastic and frankly, IMO, a lot more of them should have been called up and named to the youth NT.

The issue is that you WRONGLY stated that Galaxy is doing great this year because their team was continuous from last year. You are completely wrong. Any team that plays 11-13 new players is NOT, under any circumstance, a continuous team. Galaxy is doing great this year because they added a lot of great players, 11 completely new ones and 2 who were playing up, to a core that was already very good.

At the same time list what your team has in comparison this year.
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What are you rambling about. I never compared my son's team to anyone. Stay on the subject.

The Galaxy academy system doesn't change according to a coach. The training and system is consistent throughout the ages.
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I can't believe I'm reading this. So changing coaches doesn't mean anything? The hiring of Brien Kleiban and the implementation of his philosophy has not had any impact on the Galaxy Academy? Because that's essentially what you are saying, that at Galaxy they run the same system and play the same way regardless of who coaches.

Let me just say I respectfully disagree with you. I think there are differences in coaches, I think those differences actually matter, and I think those differences will cause changes in playing styles.
 
JJP said:
And who are you? Some guy who borrows the name of a Leicester City premier league player and then says he is a scout.

You want to take the blinkers off, then let's do it. Say who you are and who you work for and what analysis you do and what reports you write up.



Why are you even bringing up youth NT camps? That has nothing to do with anything we've discussed.

You've listed 10 players. Galaxy lists 21 players on their roster and I've heard, although I don't know, they actually have 24. That's a minimum of 11 new players and possibly up to 14. How is it even possible to say that a team with a minimum of 11 new players is continuous from last year? It's mind boggling that I actually have to discuss this with you.

Of the 10 players you mentioned #20 and #8 have been with Galaxy practically since the folding of Cosmos, and never played with the Galaxy 03 team when my son's team played them. I believe, though I cannot say with 100% certainty because I don't really care, that #20 and #8 played all their games with the 02 team last year. I know #20 is now playing with the 03s. I've heard that #8 plays occasionally with the 03s as well. As far as I'm concerned, #20 and #8 are new additions to the 03 team because they are now actually playing with the 03s. By my count, that is 13 new additions. If you want to take #8 and #20 off the list because they have actually played with the 03s last year, or you think just being rostered with the 03s is sufficient even if they don't play with them, it's still 11 new additions to a team. That is not a continuous team.

I'm not going to waste time discussing individual Galaxy players. There is no issue with any of the Galaxy players, they are all fantastic and frankly, IMO, a lot more of them should have been called up and named to the youth NT.

The issue is that you WRONGLY stated that Galaxy is doing great this year because their team was continuous from last year. You are completely wrong. Any team that plays 11-13 new players is NOT, under any circumstance, a continuous team. Galaxy is doing great this year because they added a lot of great players, 11 completely new ones and 2 who were playing up, to a core that was already very good.


What are you rambling about. I never compared my son's team to anyone. Stay on the subject.


I can't believe I'm reading this. So changing coaches doesn't mean anything? The hiring of Brien Kleiban and the implementation of his philosophy has not had any impact on the Galaxy Academy? Because that's essentially what you are saying, that at Galaxy they run the same system and play the same way regardless of who coaches.

Let me just say I respectfully disagree with you. I think there are differences in coaches, I think those differences actually matter, and I think those differences will cause changes in playing styles.
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Look at my avatar and yes that one of orgs I scoct
JJP said:
And who are you? Some guy who borrows the name of a Leicester City premier league player and then says he is a scout.

You want to take the blinkers off, then let's do it. Say who you are and who you work for and what analysis you do and what reports you write up.



Mahrez is a player that was in my home club QKFC as a youth. My avatar is one of the places I scout for.

Now whats your deal again? You want to take the blinkers off but not reveal your indenity, what club you son plays but want everybody else to do so. So what is a jjp? and what is your inlovement in what club again?

BK has been there for two years since I arrived in the States and I don't think he's changed much or the training or system they run. Unless I hear or see different that's the way things are.

You seem to be arguing with your self about trifling stuff, never said continuity is the only factor rather it does help when players already are filmiar with the style and system you are trying to play. If 10 or 11 players already know this makes teaching the others easier. That's it nothing else. That team has done good so far due to a combination of many things and not just by recruiting new players as you claim.

What's your agenda again and why do you almost always post about the Strikers or Slammer's and can't take any feedback in a construction manner?

We all want players to succeed so if they are invited to a YNT session or get a call up to camp should'nt we be happy for them and give them some recogniziton?

I have nothing to argue with you about, if you make it out to Dallas cup ping me and we can get a aperitif and talk more.
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Listen Mahrez. I'm not here to do internet wars or unmaskings. You are the one who said let's take the blinkers off, not me. If you don't want to that's fine by me.

You are clearly new to this age group and doing your scouting now. My son has played in this age group for years and has played with or against most of the older top players in this age group, i.e. the portion of this age group whose birthdays fall from 1/03 to 8/03. I'm still learning the kids whose birthdays fall from 8/03 to 12/03 because this is the first season I have actually seen them play.

Read your posts. You said Strikers are not doing well now because they are a big fish in a little pond. You said Strikers are struggling because they are learning a new passing system. You set forth Galaxy and GSA as teams doing well this year because of the continuity of their systems and players and coaches.

What you said is arguably true about GSA. They have the same coach, they run the same system, most of the players are the same. They did lose 3 of their best players to Galaxy, so IMO it's really not the same team, but it's close enough I won't argue the point.

What you said about Strikers is just completely wrong. There are reasons why the Strikers aren't as good this year, but it's not for the reasons you stated. Big fish, little pond argument does not apply to the Strikers. DA is new to 2016-17. In 2015-16, every top team was in SCDSL or CSL. Galaxy academy or pre-academy was in SCDSL along with Strikers, GSA was in CSL. I actually don't remember if Strikers won SCDSL that year, but it was obvious to everyone by the end of 2015 that the Strikers were the team to beat in SCDSL. That Strikers team wiped out everyone in 2015-16 National Cup. Their 02 RW simply destroyed everyone, nobody had an answer for that kid, and their LW was almost as good.

Every DA team was in the National Cup tournament for 2015-16 and every top non-DA team was also in that tournament. That tournament was the big pond, and that 2015-16 Strikers team was without a doubt the biggest fish in that pond. In 2016-17, the Strikers moved to DA League, which is now the new big pond in SoCal. When you say Strikers were the big fish in a little pond and now they are a little fish in a big pond, it's simply not true. They were always in the SoCal big pond. They were never in the little pond for SoCal.

You then said Galaxy is doing great this year because it's continuing from last year's team, that's just not true. Galaxy in 2015-16 was not a great team. They did not win league, they lost to a lot of different flight 1 teams, they did not make an impact in National Cup. My recollection of that Galaxy 2015-26 team was that it was filled with a lot of skilled, little players who had good, but not great speed. That Galaxy team was completely dependent on favorable reffing to survive against the top teams who could physically and tactically break them down. I saw that Galaxy team play many times and watched them get taken apart by several flight 1 teams and it would have been worse but they got some real friendly officiating.

For you to say that Galaxy is great this year because they followed the academy recommended 4-3-3 system and Strikers are struggling this year because they switched over to the academy style 4-3-3 and are learning it . . . I'm sorry it's just a completely absurd thing to say.

The Galaxy team has been completely revamped. They added a lot of new players from other teams and had top 03 players that were playing up move back to the 03 team. Adding up to 13 top players is a huge personnel addition the impact of which is so huge it's the only explanation for why Galaxy is doing so well this year compared to last year.

The Strikers team is worse this year because they lost several dominant players including 02s that were physically dominating 03s. You say you are a scout. Why are you scouting? I'm guessing it's to find top players, because adding great players makes a difference.

I don't understand why a scout would discount the impact that adding or losing top players has on a team, and focus on systems or big fish, little pond paradigms that don't even apply.
 
JJP said:
Listen Mahrez. I'm not here to do internet wars or unmaskings. You are the one who said let's take the blinkers off, not me. If you don't want to that's fine by me.

You are clearly new to this age group and doing your scouting now. My son has played in this age group for years and has played with or against most of the older top players in this age group, i.e. the portion of this age group whose birthdays fall from 1/03 to 8/03. I'm still learning the kids whose birthdays fall from 8/03 to 12/03 because this is the first season I have actually seen them play.

Read your posts. You said Strikers are not doing well now because they are a big fish in a little pond. You said Strikers are struggling because they are learning a new passing system. You set forth Galaxy and GSA as teams doing well this year because of the continuity of their systems and players and coaches.

What you said is arguably true about GSA. They have the same coach, they run the same system, most of the players are the same. They did lose 3 of their best players to Galaxy, so IMO it's really not the same team, but it's close enough I won't argue the point.

What you said about Strikers is just completely wrong. There are reasons why the Strikers aren't as good this year, but it's not for the reasons you stated. Big fish, little pond argument does not apply to the Strikers. DA is new to 2016-17. In 2015-16, every top team was in SCDSL or CSL. Galaxy academy or pre-academy was in SCDSL along with Strikers, GSA was in CSL. I actually don't remember if Strikers won SCDSL that year, but it was obvious to everyone by the end of 2015 that the Strikers were the team to beat in SCDSL. That Strikers team wiped out everyone in 2015-16 National Cup. Their 02 RW simply destroyed everyone, nobody had an answer for that kid, and their LW was almost as good.

Every DA team was in the National Cup tournament for 2015-16 and every top non-DA team was also in that tournament. That tournament was the big pond, and that 2015-16 Strikers team was without a doubt the biggest fish in that pond. In 2016-17, the Strikers moved to DA League, which is now the new big pond in SoCal. When you say Strikers were the big fish in a little pond and now they are a little fish in a big pond, it's simply not true. They were always in the SoCal big pond. They were never in the little pond for SoCal.

You then said Galaxy is doing great this year because it's continuing from last year's team, that's just not true. Galaxy in 2015-16 was not a great team. They did not win league, they lost to a lot of different flight 1 teams, they did not make an impact in National Cup. My recollection of that Galaxy 2015-26 team was that it was filled with a lot of skilled, little players who had good, but not great speed. That Galaxy team was completely dependent on favorable reffing to survive against the top teams who could physically and tactically break them down. I saw that Galaxy team play many times and watched them get taken apart by several flight 1 teams and it would have been worse but they got some real friendly officiating.

For you to say that Galaxy is great this year because they followed the academy recommended 4-3-3 system and Strikers are struggling this year because they switched over to the academy style 4-3-3 and are learning it . . . I'm sorry it's just a completely absurd thing to say.

The Galaxy team has been completely revamped. They added a lot of new players from other teams and had top 03 players that were playing up move back to the 03 team. Adding up to 13 top players is a huge personnel addition the impact of which is so huge it's the only explanation for why Galaxy is doing so well this year compared to last year.

The Strikers team is worse this year because they lost several dominant players including 02s that were physically dominating 03s. You say you are a scout. Why are you scouting? I'm guessing it's to find top players, because adding great players makes a difference.

I don't understand why a scout would discount the impact that adding or losing top players has on a team, and focus on systems or big fish, little pond paradigms that don't even apply.
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I reread just in case, but no I didn't say or post what your arguing to yourself about

This is all I posted and you blow it up with all these tangents

"GSA, Galaxy and some of the other teams or players don't have to relearn, adapt to a new coach, or style of play because they have been doing this all along"

I don't consider any of these teams great, some are doing better than others and that's about it. Kids are a work in progress at this age but and the same time by U15 you can usually tell which ones might have a future playing in the bigger lakes outside their local league(s). In the MX league players this age are already on 3rd division teams or academies if they show the potential.

All teams lose or add players ever year in DA, that's they way things go. GSA lost some, Galaxy added some, other teams like the LA united one one started from scratch. All the teams arrived in the DA differently and where all new this season.

When there is a team with 11 returning players that competed for a usys championship the previous year and now they are in the bottom half of the table, one begins to wonder why? Excuses about losing players or injuries for the reason why they don't t move the ball around or play out the back well really don't cut it. There has to be something else

I have no idea if you have any soccer background other than being a parent that keeps tabs on kids which is kind of creepy but lets put us these videos and you can give your expert opinion on what you see:

This is the Strikers 02/03' that you like to boast about "kicking ass" as you posted:

GSA ussda u13

Galaxy ussda u13

Besides keepers having a good or bad day what's the difference in the teams or players seen in these videos?
 
My buddy said likely 2 guest players with both wanting to sign but Cup tied for nationals. This team will be the elite CDA team for the U15 age group. They will take the top players from the CDA clubs to form this top team.
 
galaxydad said:
My buddy said likely 2 guest players with both wanting to sign but Cup tied for nationals. This team will be the elite CDA team for the U15 age group. They will take the top players from the CDA clubs to form this top team.
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So they applied for the u15 age group for Dallas cup which is for 02's? What was the team name?

For u14s/03's there was only two teams from SC that were on the early acceptance list and there both from the DA league.
 
galaxydad said:
My buddy said likely 2 guest players with both wanting to sign but Cup tied for nationals. This team will be the elite CDA team for the U15 age group. They will take the top players from the CDA clubs to form this top team.
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is it going be the LAFC academy team?
 
mahrez said:
So they applied for the u15 age group for Dallas cup which is for 02's? What was the team name?

For u14s/03's there was only two teams from SC that were on the early acceptance list and there both from the DA league.
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Not sure but know they have been accepted and will be attending and playing in the 03s.
 
mahrez said:
So losing's 3 players is a lot of talent but they retained what 11? Stretching a bit or maybe to much realiance on too few players? Again a perfect example of the bigger fish in the small pond. When things changed what happen? Oh I know let's see if we can "re- learn" to move the ball around now, text book example.
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What's your explanation for big fish small pond? Strikers Galaxy and GSA have been swimming in the same pond for years. I like how you ignore most of the nonsense you posted.

If you want to discount the loss or addition of strong players as to why teams are doing worse or better, that's up to you. I disagree. Both Strikers and Galaxy lost a lot of players and added new players. The players the Strikers added were nowhere near as good as the players Galaxy added. The key players the Strikers lost were their best players. The players Galaxy lost were replaced by much better players.

In case you didn't know, usually good players are better at moving the ball around.

I'm not saying coaching or system of play is unimportant. I'm just amazed that you discount the impact of talent, and yet you call yourself a scout. Your whole job is to find talent. From what you posted, you focus on kids that are playing well on teams that run academy systems. That is the easiest, no value added scouting there is, because you have to do zero projection.

I'm not sure what you are trying to imply when you find it weird that I know who most of the top players are. My son started playing CSL at age 8, he is now 13. He has played with or against all the top players for 7 years now. All I have to do to know who the best players are is attend my son's games. If your kid plays on top teams, various tournament teams, Mexican league teams, futsal league teams, for 7 years you will know who all the good players are.

Finally, I got to ask. Who is grdusty? You have a guy following you around these boards with 0 postings, liking all your posts, and disliking the posts of anyone who disagrees with you. Weird.
 
JJP said:
What's your explanation for big fish small pond?
If you want to discount the loss or addition of strong players as to why teams are doing worse or better, that's up to you. I disagree.
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I you guys are talking about Striker's last year, then yes that was big fish in a pond that was breaking-up well before National cup.

I've seen the Strikers play over the years. The team suffered from its reliance on a few fast physical players, at the expense of others. Other players didn't show much interest in possessing the ball, just booting it forward routinely. Naturally, a few times in a game those balls landed close enough for one of the so-called studs to run to it. Parents go home happy with those wins, even parents whose kid just got cheated, development-wise. Actually, the parents of the studs got cheated too. At U16 the fields will be full of studs.
 
SuperNatural said:
Yeah just watched the vid. I have to agree with, Ray. Not much futbol being played other than fundamentals and reliance on athleticism.
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That first video is a real youth club championship game for this age group played out of state? Looks like a spoof of jungle ball who would pay to play and travel for games like that?

That right there pretty much sums up whats wrong with youth soccer in the USofA. What a example I bet some of the players just moved onto to other jungle ball teams to chase more trophies :eek:
 
I wanted to stay out of this Bullshit but after you post a video about Strikers FC and had the balls to say the things you said… I needed to stop your ignorance. First of all Mahrez Your some looser ass dad of some kid that got their ass kicked by Strikers last year and you're still butt hurt about it. It is sad how Strikers are the talk of the age group even when they play shit soccer. Why is that? Why are you guys so mad?
Must be because we kicked your asses up and down that field last year and you guys hate it. Mahrez must be a GSA dad or CDA and hates the fact that your sons team has alway been the Bridesmaid but never the bride. Mahrez, you post a video and compare it to some measly ass Academy game that means nothing. You want to criticize a final? Anyone that knows anything about soccer and a final of a mega tournament knows that finals never look good from either side. Just watch the first game from Dallas or the game that we play GSA off the field in Idaho, then talk. I know you're not to familiar how much more pressure goes into a game like that but hopefully one day you'll be able to experience it.
Mahrez you act like you know so much about USSDA and how the Strikers are at the bottom of the table. I thought there was no standings?
So once again good that your are doing so well in a league that there is no added pressure on the boys. Part of the problem with most of the LA club's is that those boys don't pan out when the going gets tough and they tend to quit. Name one kid that Galaxy or GSA or TFA or CDA has produce in the pro's? Even in the MLS?

Strikers FC had 2 players drafted in the MLS last week
Nick DePuy (4 years played Strikers)
Christian Theirjung (5 years played Strikers)

Strikers FC had 4 players at the MLS/US Nations camp in January
Benny Feilhaber (6 years played Strikers)
Steven Birnbaum (9 years played Strikers)
Chris Pontius (3 years played Strikers)
Chad Marshall (1 year played Strikers)

MLS
Christian Ramirez signed a deal with the new MLS Minnesota (4 years played Strikers)

Europe
Bobby Wood moved to Irvine from Hawaii to play for Strikers and we sent him to Germany
(2 years played Strikers)

This is just a small portion of what we've produced…Plus year after year we produce college players. Last year alone we were 5th in the country with scholarships from the DA. This year already we have a full scholarship commitment to Stanford and Cal Berkeley. I think we know how to handle development just fine and we will see when they are U16 how many of our boys are getting looked at by colleges and how many from other programs are. Don't disrespect what we've been doing for 30 years.

By the way this forum was used by kids talking soccer and shit to each other years ago before games and now its sad to see parents talk negatively about boys and girls that are just playing the game they love.
 
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