Forfeit points in National Cup

[SocalPapa]

If you want an extreme example, in the G02 division of National Cup this year there was one team that advanced as a wildcard despite playing only one game in the first round. How did they do in that one game? They lost 0-6!

Doesn't seem quite fair that they advanced over a team that earned 4 points on the field.

 

[TangoCity]

If you want an extreme example, in the G02 division of National Cup this year there was one team that advanced as a wildcard despite playing only one game in the first round. How did they do in that one game? They lost 0-6!

Doesn't seem quite fair that they advanced over a team that earned 4 points on the field.

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Thanks for posting that. That is a great example of the problem with the scoring method that State/Natl Cup uses for forfeit wins. The pool winner should move on, but for wildcard points that team should only get one point for each of those forfeit wins and of course none for the 0-6 loss, for a total of two points. They would not have moved on. This is a real obvious hole in the scoring system.

 

[Kicker4Life]

Thanks for posting that. That is a great example of the problem with the scoring method that State/Natl Cup uses for forfeit wins. The pool winner should move on, but for wildcard points that team should only get one point for each of those forfeit wins and of course none for the 0-6 loss, for a total of two points. They would not have moved on. This is a real obvious hole in the scoring system.

Actually, it’s a problem with teams forfeiting. The system works fine when all the teams who sign up participate.

 

[TangoCity]

Actually, it’s a problem with teams forfeiting. The system works fine when all the teams who sign up participate.

Of course that is a problem. What is your fix for it? Large fines to the club/coach? In the meantime you still need a point system in place that handles forfeits.

 

[timbuck]

Of course that is a problem. What is your fix for it? Large fines to the club/coach? In the meantime you still need a point system in place that handles forfeits.

Posted this on the 1st page:
Or just try to mitigate forfeits. Rearrange schedules as teams drop out. Move teams from governors, to presidents, to national. And vice versa.
And penalize entire clubs if they forfeit.
If you have 1 team from your club forfeit- then every team from the club the following year is not eligible for early bird pricing.
If 2 or more teams from your club forfeit- then your entire club is put on the waitlist next year and will be added to the schedule if there is room.

A bit punitive- but I bet coaches of older teams would get a handle on who’s around for spring break before they apply.
And younger teams might hold off on having tryouts so early if they apply and then their team blows up because of tryouts before state cup starts.