Just asking, but if they can hang on DA, why not play DA? Why play flight 2 or flight 1 for that matter. And why stay at pats because flight 2 or 1 isn’t free. Ecnl and da are attractive options for 04.
First year for '05 DA discussion
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Just asking, but if they can hang on DA, why not play DA? Why play flight 2 or flight 1 for that matter. And why stay at pats because flight 2 or 1 isn’t free. Ecnl and da are attractive options for 04.
I think it's based on what the player and parent end-game is. They like the team. They like the coach. They aren't looking at a scholarship. They are fine with practice 2x per week and an occasional private training or strength training here and there. They don't have to fly to games and/or miss school to do so.
Mr. Mac
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US Soccer monitors them pretty closely, I think all are teaching the basic principles that are dictated to them. If they aren't, I would speak first to the coach directly..if that doesn't seem to go anywhere you could talk with the academy director.
Hopefully at the beginning of the year the coach(es) will outline their plans for the year. You should get a pretty good idea of what to expect and what is expected.
Hopefully at the beginning of the year the coach(es) will outline their plans for the year. You should get a pretty good idea of what to expect and what is expected.
We're doomed if we are expecting our kids to develop based on following a curriculum produced by US Soccer!
Dude, I’ve posted again and again curriculum is the most important piece to any development. Until one is decided upon than it’s all nada. Only then will we see real development. And it has to be a program that incorporates creativity, IQ, and a style of play.
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I’d say we might be better served with a bunch of different curriculum. Look at other sports in the US.
Basketball- so many styles of play. Run and gun. Zone (variety of options) defense. Pick and roll. Motion offense. Etc.
Football- so many different ways to play
Baseball- who cares? So boring
Hockey- variety of styles.
What each sport lives off of though is basic fundamental skills (which can be coached), individual creativity (which is done in pickup type of games or working on your own) and a variety of tactics based on the players you have and the game situation.
Soccer is not those sports. On the men’s side. Why is Germany and Spain where there at. Curriculum. France is on its way. Belgium too. Brazil has finally comeback to what made them great. Addendum- England and Australia and not to mention Japan on the women’s are making huge strides. I think Japan plays the best tactical soccer out there.
So I disagree on a different curriculum. Because on the girls side it’s to wide open and it’s not good. And the cracks are exposing themselves. If we ignore them well. It’s our fault.
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futboldad1
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Good post and I agree.....Concern is USSF being in charge of it. Clue. Less. That's the issue.
Surf, Slammers, Blues, Galaxy SB....there are some big old dogs that are coming in strong and going to just strengthen their hold on the age group if they add more talent.....would love to see how these teams do playing a year up....
I’d say those countries have a culture that teaches extremely technical and creative play. Not through curriculum but through backyard play, parents and kids knocking a ball around in the house and kids watching their favorite players on TV several hours per week.
Similar to how our kids interact with football and basketball.
Shooting a basketball underhand in the US is like toe-poking a soccer ball in Brazil. It just isn’t done past about 4 years old. But there are still some toe poking kids at the lower (rec) levels smashing a ball with their big toe.
I know many basketball playing kids in the US will spend hours in the driveway shooting layups and free throws. Or playing small games with 2-5 friends.
There are probably some soccer kids doing something similar. But those are the exception. If they are doing anything outside of practice it’s usually with a private trainer. (And lots of basketball kids now have private trainers too. But they are also messing around in the driveway “just for fun”)
So when those kids play on a “club / aau” basketball team they have pretty solid fundamental skills. And their coach then teaches them system/style of play that fits his ideals. Or fits the type of athletes he has on the team.
Similar to how our kids interact with football and basketball.
Shooting a basketball underhand in the US is like toe-poking a soccer ball in Brazil. It just isn’t done past about 4 years old. But there are still some toe poking kids at the lower (rec) levels smashing a ball with their big toe.
I know many basketball playing kids in the US will spend hours in the driveway shooting layups and free throws. Or playing small games with 2-5 friends.
There are probably some soccer kids doing something similar. But those are the exception. If they are doing anything outside of practice it’s usually with a private trainer. (And lots of basketball kids now have private trainers too. But they are also messing around in the driveway “just for fun”)
So when those kids play on a “club / aau” basketball team they have pretty solid fundamental skills. And their coach then teaches them system/style of play that fits his ideals. Or fits the type of athletes he has on the team.
Dude I know. Just because you keep repeating it doesn’t mean you’re right.
Schools across the nation follow the same curriculum with massive variance of results. Environment and quality of coaching staff are far more significant than any curriculum.
Dude, you keep saying otherwise and doesn’t mean your right. In fact you believe in a method that does not work. As an educator myself yes we follow a curriculum but we have one. US Soccer does not.
Which Team won?
What system have US Soccer laid out?
DA style
Sometimes when a team is far superior and more athletic- the lesser team plays kickball because they are under more pressure than they are used to. That jungle ball team might look like Barca against a lesser team.
There is a great thread going on in the Girls DA. from about page 164 onward. someone posted an article that is really interesting. https://www.socceramerica.com/publi...he-development-academy-fc-stars-director.html really makes some great points
Mr. Mac
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That coach makes some very valid points, but I would bet this is probably more parent driven. They probably had parents threatening to leave the club or making some noise about play time.
If that is the case, then it's funny if they did complain about those things to the coach/DOC. Those same parents all knew what they signed up for as far as substitutions and no outside sports/High School soccer go.
If that's not the case, then I hope the coach gets to speak with US Soccer about his concerns, and they listen to him..because he won't be the last to have the same concerns pop up.
I am not advocating for change, but there is nothing wrong with listening to people and maybe being a little more flexible for the ever changing whims of soccer parents.
Add that the kid wants to play other sports as well. Or High School. Or both. I think DA should embrace cross training with other sports.
bruinblue14
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I had a brief conversation with one of our coaches about outside sports/PE and his take was if the kid is happy and enjoying playing other sports at this age, it's fine. He said the one thing he didn't want DD doing was playing middle school soccer. To me it sounded like he wanted to minimize the potential for injury, which I tend to agree with. (And yes, I also know she could get injured anywhere playing soccer or not.) At this point, HS is a year away and who knows if my kid will still be playing DA. If she is, the no HS thing doesn't bother me that much because my kid's school is college-prep focused and has a terrible sports program. But that's just us....