Why?
FC England
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Several points in his diatribe have been discussed in this forum and found to be hokum -- example: masks can't work because the virus is much smaller than the pitch of the mask weave; example 2: you breathe in too much carbon dioxide when wearing a mask. There are other boners in there, but I'll let you "do your own research" for those.
It's also full of the "think of the children" appeals to emotion. If Coach Spacey wishes to show an example to children of how he is due special treatment because he is a special person, he's doing a great job.
I heard there are lots of openings for soccer coaches in alabama, no testing. He has the freedom to move there and get a job.
Paul Spacey
SILVER ELITE
Fair suggestion!
Fortunately I don’t need to move anywhere; I help run a successful club right here in LA. The high school job was a side gig and financially it was genuinely net zero in terms of income for my time invested. In fact, last year it was financially negative as I paid a coach additionally from my own pocket to ensure the program was a success (public high school soccer programs are not well funded, that’s common knowledge).
Because I’m not struggling financially, I did/do the job for the love of it, not for the money and that allows me to do great work; by doing something I truly love and not being beholden to a paycheck.
And? What?
I read the first two paragraphs, and had no need to read the rest: no vaccine = good riddance! (unless he has a medical exemption, which surely would have meant the school would not have canned him).
Please read the below with the intent in which it was written. These are my own personal views and do not necessarily reflect that of the club. My wish is to simply pose questions and hopefully raise some awareness. If it does not resonate with you, feel free to discard.
Many of you by now will have heard the news about Paul and his situation at SAMOHI. To those that haven't, on Thursday he was told that he would no longer be allowed on campus to run the boys' soccer program, which he has done for the past 2 years. The reason for this was because he decided not to have a vaccine. His reasons are his own. Under normal circumstances, his choice would be a private one. However, it seems times have changed, and so his situation has now become public knowledge, which unfortunately goes completely against an individual's medical privacy rights.
Paul has been an extremely successful coach at the high school, and the program that he has put together is exceptional; the best for developing student athletes to play collegiate soccer. It's the same program we use at FC England, which is 100% what will best serve every player over the course of their high school years. All bias aside, nowhere else on the Westside will you find a better HS program. Paul does not do the job for money (he gets paid next to nothing for the number of hours that he puts in) - he does it because he loves coaching and loves the sport; something we're both trying to grow here in the US.
Out of respect for everyone's personal opinion and choice, I am not writing this to get into a debate (if you're looking for one, you will not find one here as it is not my intent). Overall, my main concern is for the kids. In my role as a 'coach', that is the lane I aim to stay in, but there is naturally a crossover of sorts when giving personal opinions on public matters. Please understand that I respect each and every one of you reading this, and that means I also respect your opinions, regardless of whether or not they align with my own......
Outside of FCE, I'm also involved in the health and wellbeing of others - so it's part of my job to keep up to date with the independent studies that are carried out in both the scientific and holistic communities. I've also worked with and managed online businesses for over 20 years. During my time in these roles, data collection and analysis were very much a big part of my daily responsibilities. Therefore, I am well placed to discuss the topics of online information flow, online research, and the authenticity of such.
We've regularly been told that the science is being followed when it comes to covid protocols in schools. However, in my personal and humble opinion, there has been a large number of contradictions for this to be deemed accurate (too much inconsistency). The school district, again in my personal and humble opinion, has overstepped its mark. This is because the immunization requirements for schools must come from the California Public Health Department, and CPHD has not mandated it (yet). Up to now, SMMUSD has decided to take medical decisions for students into their own hands, regardless of the fact that they do not hold the authority to do so. And even if the CPHD does decide to mandate (which apparently they will do soon - pending further FDA approvals), I still encourage you all to do your own independent research. It really is amazing the amount of information that can be found online.
To those reading this and feeling prickled, that's unfortunate but understandable. Regardless, I hope it ignites something in you, which will lead to you looking into things on your own. After 18 month's of researching various reports, scientific and legal documents, best practices, state/federal laws and financial statements (along with a group of friends in my immediate circle), it has become clear (at least to us, and it now seems many more) that reasons other than science and the health and safety of the kids has become a major influence in the decisions being made. To me, it's disappointing because I sincerely care about all of our kids' wellbeing, and it's not nice to see them go through their school years in such difficult circumstances.
If you do feel prickled, I encourage you to ask why that might be the case. Some of you may feel a certain way, which is fine, but please ask yourself the following question and answer it honestly.... Aside from watching the news, reading the newspapers and scrolling through social media posts, what independent research have you actually done and cross-referenced to check its authenticity? And are you even aware of the mass censorship that's taking place to silence those that speak out (despite having actual facts and results of their own independent studies) against the "official" narrative? Ask yourself honestly whether or not there may be a chance, just a chance, that something else might be going on here. I know that many of you have already looked into this and were surprised at what you discovered.
I'm writing this for a number of reasons. The 1st is because my friend and business partner has, in my opinion, been treated poorly (so I'm choosing to publicly support him in the hope of also getting support from others). This happened to Paul simply because he decided not to have a vaccine. That is his choice and that is his right. The same choice and right others have to decide what medications to take. This is America and, from my understanding, freedom is heavily supported within the Constitution. If someone does not want to put something into their own body, it is not the place of a government, and it is certainly not the place of a school district, to demand otherwise (with the consequence of non-compliance being that they lose their job). That's just not OK - regardless of your views on the vaccine discussion. And, perhaps most importantly, it goes completely against the Nuremberg Code. If you are not familiar with this, I encourage you to look into it.
The 2nd reason, and definitely the most personal to me, is that the kids are being negatively impacted in so many ways - especially mentally and emotionally. Unfortunately, from just a purely soccer perspective, the kids in this community, some of which are FCE players, will now miss out, as Paul will be replaced by someone who (I guarantee) will not care anywhere near as much, and will certainly not put in the same amount of time and effort that he has these past few years. Paul's record speaks for itself. To those of the opinion that the district is following processes and has the best interest of every child at heart, please, I encourage you to do your own independent research away from the "official sources". Go and discover the countless number of doctors who have been threatened with the loss of their medical licenses if they speak up. That's perhaps a good starting point. Or, if you want something a little more obvious, cast your awareness over to Australia and look at what they're going through right now; all of which is under the guise of "public health and safety". Or, perhaps I can direct your attention to discovering how some of the 'public' studies are funded; more specifically, who funds them..... I encourage you to do your own research.
There's so much authentic information out there, you just need to be willing to look, and also, be willing to have your current beliefs challenged. For the immediate and long-term safety of the kids, surely it's worth at least a little of your time?
Here is one video by a concerned mother from Illinois that might perk your interest - https://gab.com/White__Rabbit/posts/106983185743350882. There are hundreds more like this from all over the country by parents who have taken the time to carry out their own research.
It seems to me (again in my personal and humble opinion) fear has crippled society in a variety of ways since March 2020. Take the masks for example - on the box/packaging they come with, it clearly states that the product does not actually protect from the very thing we're told they protect us from (transmission). It seems any type of mask is deemed acceptable. I see people with bandanas, cotton, silk and some made from various other materials - all of which are accepted by businesses and venues. This is certainly not science. I encourage you to look into what a virus actually is, and compare the size of the particles with that of the threads in the standard-type masks we're all wearing. It makes for interesting reading.
Ironically, both independent and public studies have been conducted on the efficacy of these masks - as well as the adverse effects that they have on the immune system and skin (especially relating to bacterial infections). As humans, by design, we are not supposed to breathe IN carbon dioxide that we've exhaled OUT. Yet that's exactly what happens when the nostrils and mouth are covered by a mask.
I would pull my kid yesterday if I read that. Loser.
Paul Spacey
SILVER ELITE
FYI so you understand the situation; I’m still employed by the school and will meet with them next week to discuss the situation. My exemption has been pending since August; nobody has been ‘canned’. The school district must follow CA law in respect to religious/personal belief exemptions given that Covid is NOT part of the mandated list of vaccines applicable to CA schools (most other vaccines were included in the last updated bill that passed but Covid wasn’t around then).
I respect your view on unvaccinated=good riddance but remember that not everyone shares your view (although you are in a majority of course). Again, it’s ultimately just about respecting the opinions and views of others.
It's just about respecting the lives of your students/players. If you don't see that, good riddance.
It's not likely the school will put it so bluntly, but they should.
I am morally superior to you because you are unvaccinated and can infect other people with covid-19
I am morally superior to you because I am vaccinated and can still infect people with covid-19
If you are unvaccinated you can infect me and I have the vaccine.
If I am vaccinated I can infect you and you are unvaccinated.
If I am vaccinated my outcomes after getting Covid-19 from you unvaccinated people won't be as bad, because I am vaccinated.
If you are not vaccinated your outcomes after getting Covid-19 from me, a vaccinated person, will be worse because you are unvaccinated
I am morally superior to you because I am vaccinated and can still infect people with covid-19
If you are unvaccinated you can infect me and I have the vaccine.
If I am vaccinated I can infect you and you are unvaccinated.
If I am vaccinated my outcomes after getting Covid-19 from you unvaccinated people won't be as bad, because I am vaccinated.
If you are not vaccinated your outcomes after getting Covid-19 from me, a vaccinated person, will be worse because you are unvaccinated
Paul Spacey
SILVER ELITE
You’re right of course. And if I thought I was putting them in danger, I’d voluntarily step aside. We’ve been around each other outside (that is key) for 18 months during Covid, much of that time nobody was vaccinated, with zero issues. Rochelle Walensky’s comments have stirred up the vax/unvax spread debate but no point going into that.
Again, it’s a divisive issue and this forum has discussed it in detail already so we don’t need to re-hash it. I’ll step aside now; as always, some good input and views which I respect.
Enjoy the soccer weekend. LGB!
It's only divisive because of those who insist on making it so.
Please continue.
this is about power and control
There is no limiting principle , there is no endgame to Covid
Did you know that you are not paranoid if they really are out to get you?
I gave these people the benefit of the doubt when this started
they no longer deserve that benefit
some people look look at these policy failures as a reason to give them more control , had they just had more power they could fix it
ive learned people like being told what to do, we have a submissive society
Ah, yes, a perfect response!
Have you read your posts? Talk about ignorance, entitlement, and paranoia….that’s one thing you are an expert at!
Go back to your OFF TOPIC Troll bridge and leave these folks alone.
I didn't start this thread. It's getting the responses it needs.