WOODS: Let’s start off with a couple of explanations that we’ve heard for the financial crisis and housing bust that are just not true, but which have seeped into the consciousnessof the public to the point where it’s hard to dislodge them.
The key one is that people were being sold mortgage packages that they just didn’tunderstand. They were being scammed by bankers who were tricking them into mortgages that they couldn’t afford. The poor public was put upon by these predatory lenders, and of course it all came to this bad result. What’s wrong with that explanation?
WALLISON: Well, of course that happened in some cases, probably a limited number of cases. I was on the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, and one of the things I asked isthat, well you know, there’s been a lot of talk about predatory lending causing thisproblem; let’s have some numbers on this. Why don’t you find out how much of these loans were predatory? And of course, they couldn’t find out.
The answer really is that there was much more predatory borrowing going on than predatory lending. More people were taking out loans that they knew they couldn’t afford,because they were so cheap. These mortgages were being offered so inexpensively to people that they took them out even though when the mortgages reset so they were going to become more expensive, they couldn’t pay them. They hoped that by the time themortgages reset, they would be able to pay them, but by that time there was a financialcrisis, mortgages had fallen in value, homes had fallen in value, they couldn’t refinance themortgages, and they defaulted. So I think the real answer is that there was much more predatory borrowing going on than predatory lending in the financial crisis.