That DA team will be one of the top teams in the country this season. The ECNL team is going to be far less successful.
The DA team has never been one of the top teams in the country. What is going to change?
That DA team will be one of the top teams in the country this season. The ECNL team is going to be far less successful.
The DA team has never been one of the top teams in the country. What is going to change?
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Does ECNL or DA have an issue with this? I’d assume that both leagues would prefer an “all-in” approach for a club like Blues. Seems they would disallow sharing between the 2 leagues.
First, they played up with a majority of 03s on last year’s roster. Now that it’s an even field they will show better.
On top of that they added a top player CM from the ECNL team, or are about to, and two top players from another DA club Surf. Those players are all ranked high on TDS if you like that kind of thing.
And the u15 black tier could be DPL. I'm hearing OC surf dpl is in pk's with dmcv sharks ecnl nowHow ironic, the champion of the U15 "Best of the Best" isn't a DA or ECNL team! Big props to Surf Hawaii.
Sharks win in pks. CongratsAnd the u15 black tier could be DPL. I'm hearing OC surf dpl is in pk's with dmcv sharks ecnl now
How ironic, the champion of the U15 "Best of the Best" isn't a DA or ECNL team! Big props to Surf Hawaii.
They spend less time traveling and more time on practices.Considering they don’t have either of those programs in Hawaii, I’m not sure how ironic that is. Hawaiian teams have always been strong.
Not targeting this comment at OT but just using this post as an example. The debate is actually becoming comical. "DA is pulling the best players and has the best talent hands down..... ECNL is dead and second tier"..... oh they didn't demonstrate dominance at a recent showcase of head to head play? then the comments change to: "Those were not the top DA teams there.... the best DA teams are all on break right now..... It takes time to develop, eventually the DA will show their dominance..... these specific games and scores don't matter, DA is a superior developmental platform...."Boys DA teams two years into the program weren't even competitive with many NPL teams...it takes time and US Soccer will (I think) eventually squeeze non-DA by only accepting kids playing in DA into the NTC and YNTs. If they allowed high school play and then phased that out over the next 3-4 years I think it would be game over already. I'd not look too deeply into this weekend's results as specifics matter (and it appears whoever did the math here only counted head to head match-ups? why not overall records?). Taking a quick look over a couple age groups it looks like both leagues had similar success. Who played better soccer that translates better to college and beyond? No idea without watching every game.
Great post. ECNL (College Scholarship) vs DA (YNT). I went to the first DA party. I was very excited. I wanted my dd to get a ticket to Hollywood to audition for the YNT. She was also told by coaches the judges loved how she played......hahahahahaha. No invite. My dd was pissed. She was super pissed they picked 12 05s out of 48 girls for the first U14 YNT. Some of the 04s they picked were kids who were excellent at the TCs. Juggle 500 times and great skills in small area. She now realizes she is not the type of player they want to develop. She's a gamer. The toxic part in all this: DA is really trying to sell college just like ECNL. However, the rules don't match up. Also, all the top DA clubs DOCs will tell that this YNT is a load of crap for 99.9% of the players and its all about the college scholarship. DA needs to shrink in size quickly and find the players that want to go for YNT and pro. That's the EURO style. The US style is ECNL=College. If you show my dd a way to make some serious $$$ playing professionally she might take 30 minutes out of her day to juggle and get to 500. I think she's at 100 in a row.....lolNot targeting this comment at OT but just using this post as an example. The debate is actually becoming comical. "DA is pulling the best players and has the best talent hands down..... ECNL is dead and second tier"..... oh they didn't demonstrate dominance at a recent showcase of head to head play? then the comments change to: "Those were not the top DA teams there.... the best DA teams are all on break right now..... It takes time to develop, eventually the DA will show their dominance..... these specific games and scores don't matter, DA is a superior developmental platform...."
Either the DA has the best developmental curriculum and has the best players or they don't. I was an early proponent of the DA feeling the pressure to jump on board so my DD didn't get left out of the party then after a short time, realized there was no unique party going on there. It comes down to finding the right coach, team, and club that will provide a benefit to your specific DD in the place where she is at and based on her training needs. It is a shame that US Soccer is excluding players that have chosen a different environment than the DA. It is also a shame about the denigration of college soccer. As has been said many, many times, most youth players will not advance to the USWNT and many will not play professionally. Of those that do play professionally, many will not make as much money as they could with an excellent college degree and other career pathways. Our experience in the DA was not good and actually detrimental at the time. That doesn't mean the DA is bad but it certainly is not the best for all and US Soccer should be looking for the best not who is the best in the DA.
Considering they don’t have either of those programs in Hawaii, I’m not sure how ironic that is. Hawaiian teams have always been strong.
Interesting, so many of the DA players have college scholarships to top academic schools. Who says DA is not a path to great universities and college scholarships?Great post. ECNL (College Scholarship) vs DA (YNT). I went to the first DA party. I was very excited. I wanted my dd to get a ticket to Hollywood to audition for the YNT. She was also told by coaches the judges loved how she played......hahahahahaha. No invite. My dd was pissed. She was super pissed they picked 12 05s out of 48 girls for the first U14 YNT. Some of the 04s they picked were kids who were excellent at the TCs. Juggle 500 times and great skills in small area. She now realizes she is not the type of player they want to develop. She's a gamer. The toxic part in all this: DA is really trying to sell college just like ECNL. However, the rules don't match up. Also, all the top DA clubs DOCs will tell that this YNT is a load of crap for 99.9% of the players and its all about the college scholarship. DA needs to shrink in size quickly and find the players that want to go for YNT and pro. That's the EURO style. The US style is ECNL=College. If you show my dd a way to make some serious $$$ playing professionally she might take 30 minutes out of her day to juggle and get to 500. I think she's at 100 in a row.....lol
I agree...it mostly makes it a 'trap'. But it is one that worked on the Boy's side once it built momentum over 3-5 years. My comments merely reflect the fact that it will probably go similarly for the girls side (but I don't know for sure!). I don't really care about acronyms/leagues (or even club name) so much as having a great coach with a vision of what great soccer looks like and can/will relentlessly teach that...and who has great connections to college opportunities.Using the YNT as leverage doesn’t make it a better mousetrap.
Great post. ECNL (College Scholarship) vs DA (YNT). I went to the first DA party. I was very excited. I wanted my dd to get a ticket to Hollywood to audition for the YNT. She was also told by coaches the judges loved how she played......hahahahahaha. No invite. My dd was pissed. She was super pissed they picked 12 05s out of 48 girls for the first U14 YNT. Some of the 04s they picked were kids who were excellent at the TCs. Juggle 500 times and great skills in small area. She now realizes she is not the type of player they want to develop. She's a gamer. The toxic part in all this: DA is really trying to sell college just like ECNL. However, the rules don't match up. Also, all the top DA clubs DOCs will tell that this YNT is a load of crap for 99.9% of the players and its all about the college scholarship. DA needs to shrink in size quickly and find the players that want to go for YNT and pro. That's the EURO style. The US style is ECNL=College. If you show my dd a way to make some serious $$$ playing professionally she might take 30 minutes out of her day to juggle and get to 500. I think she's at 100 in a row.....lol
My kid hates it it to this day. Her HS teammate (fullride to UCLA) is the only player I've seen that can pull off a few juggles and then a flick over defenders head for a goal. I will say if she had the mental calmness and patience it would make her a much better player. Oh wellMy 2007 played at a club when she was age 8-11 where they were required to be able to do 500 juggles (I think it was by U11) or they couldn’t start. They were threatened that if they couldn’t do 500 by age 12 they wouldn’t play at all. She’d get to like 350- 375 out in the yard and come into the house crying. Horror show, but I digress.
My kid hates it it to this day. Her HS teammate (fullride to UCLA) is the only player I've seen that can pull off a few juggles and then a flick over defenders head for a goal. I will say if she had the mental calmness and patience it would make her a much better player. Oh well
Not targeting this comment at OT but just using this post as an example. The debate is actually becoming comical. "DA is pulling the best players and has the best talent hands down..... ECNL is dead and second tier"..... oh they didn't demonstrate dominance at a recent showcase of head to head play? then the comments change to: "Those were not the top DA teams there.... the best DA teams are all on break right now..... It takes time to develop, eventually the DA will show their dominance..... these specific games and scores don't matter, DA is a superior developmental platform...."
Either the DA has the best developmental curriculum and has the best players or they don't. I was an early proponent of the DA feeling the pressure to jump on board so my DD didn't get left out of the party then after a short time, realized there was no unique party going on there. It comes down to finding the right coach, team, and club that will provide a benefit to your specific DD in the place where she is at and based on her training needs. It is a shame that US Soccer is excluding players that have chosen a different environment than the DA. It is also a shame about the denigration of college soccer. As has been said many, many times, most youth players will not advance to the USWNT and many will not play professionally. Of those that do play professionally, many will not make as much money as they could with an excellent college degree and other career pathways. Our experience in the DA was not good and actually detrimental at the time. That doesn't mean the DA is bad but it certainly is not the best for all and US Soccer should be looking for the best not who is the best in the DA.