ECNL teams

futboldad1 said:
How do you know this? LAFC is just a marketing term, thy are basically Slammers A teams and the others are their B team just like it always was. As far I'm aware LAFC don't have the ability or care to moved from ECNL to GDA on the girls side. The boys side is a different matter.....
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LAFC is not a marketing term. LAFC is a well financed professional club that partnered with a top-end girls club, Slammers, to develop its girls program. Slammers didn't fully fund the GDA program last year - that was LAFC. LAFC has a boat load of resources compared to Slammers.

You are right, LAFC does not have the ability to move to GDA. LAFC's contract with Slammers expires in a couple of years. Unless LAFC and Slammers renew the contract, the existence of LAFC's girls program will be totally independent of Slammers.

I'm not sure why you are saying that LAFC doesn't care to move from ECNL to GDA. LAFC created the program in conjunction with the formation of GDA. It's all about its DA program and was fully-funding the GDA program. I think it is more accurate to speculate whether LAFC would have created a girl's program at all if it wasn't for the creation of GDA. LAFS preferring GDA is also consistent with the rumors that LAFC is looking to join the NWSL.
 
MarkM said:
I highly recommend this podcast on Planet Futbol with Bill Simmons. His daughter is an 05 and helped start Tudela FC in LA. Tudela FC is a great opportunity for those on the westside. As he usually does, he hits the problems with youth soccer on the head. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/planet-futbol-podcast/e/57702637
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Apparently he is as delusional as the rest of us thinking his team is the only team that plays soccer the Barca way the rest of us play hoofball and they would of beat the 05 lafc slammers and heat fc if only they were entered in top bracket at thanksgiving silverlakes with those ecnl teams.

He does make a lot of valid points and I respect the small clubs and they way they are doing it.
 
ToonArmy said:
He does make a lot of valid points and I respect the small clubs and they way they are doing it.
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I also agree with his sentiment on the small clubs.

However, I couldn't stand listening to it after 15 minutes of what I assume is 45 minutes of non-stop bitching about club soccer. I get plenty of that for free on this forum already :)
 
I was wondering if they are always blowing out the competition they do get to play since the complaint is they aren’t allowed into higher brackets?
 
Soccerfan2 said:
I was wondering if they are always blowing out the competition they do get to play since the complaint is they aren’t allowed into higher brackets?
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My daughter plays for Rebels elite 05 and they played tudela 05’s in their regular season in coast.
That team is a solid team we had a tie and a lost to them.. and that lost could of gone our way..
And my daughters team also had played lafc at national cup and heat at the man city tournament.. and both of those team killed us 6-0. Those top tier teams in ecnl are legit non kick ball teams.
 
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FernandoFromNationalCity said:
My daughter plays for Rebels elite 05 and they played tudela 05’s in their regular season in coast.
That team is a solid team we had a tie and a lost to them.. and that lost could of gone our way..
And my daughters team also had played lafc at national cup and heat at the man city tournament.. and both of those team killed us 6-0. Those top tier team in ecnl are legit non kick ball teams.
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I know LAFC and Heat and yes, you are right. So his team is probably right where it should be. Should they improve and start beating teams like Heat and LAFC I think not being let in to top brackets at tournaments wouldn’t actually be a barrier.
 
Slammers does it right. Top to bottom. Best club in SoCal IMO. Great coaches, great college work behind the scenes, and great results. Kudos to the best club!
 
MarkM said:
I highly recommend this podcast on Planet Futbol with Bill Simmons. His daughter is an 05 and helped start Tudela FC in LA. Tudela FC is a great opportunity for those on the westside. As he usually does, he hits the problems with youth soccer on the head. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/planet-futbol-podcast/e/57702637
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Just heard this. Agree with most of it. Few things I dont agree with. Many of these parents who talk up their club or make excuses about getting killed by teams say "Our coach is teaching possession soccer while other teams play kickball". Most legit teams arent kicking the ball high and deep. Also didnt say how they financed the club - Hope Solo partnered with them. She either gave money directly or brought in sponsors. Bill Simmons also has a network, doesnt seem too involved on the surface but guy has access to sponsors. The club is named from a club started by his dad in Indiana - so probably easier just to work under that company name.
 
Not_that_Serious said:
Just heard this. Agree with most of it. Few things I dont agree with. Many of these parents who talk up their club or make excuses about getting killed by teams say "Our coach is teaching possession soccer while other teams play kickball". Most legit teams arent kicking the ball high and deep. Also didnt say how they financed the club - Hope Solo partnered with them. She either gave money directly or brought in sponsors. Bill Simmons also has a network, doesnt seem too involved on the surface but guy has access to sponsors. The club is named from a club started by his dad in Indiana - so probably easier just to work under that company name.
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Man, what a small world. So the DOC, Jacob, just happens to have the same last name as a club in Indiana founded by Bill Simmons father?
 
Not_that_Serious said:
Few things I dont agree with. Many of these parents who talk up their club or make excuses about getting killed by teams say "Our coach is teaching possession soccer while other teams play kickball". Most legit teams arent kicking the ball high and deep.
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My perspective as a referee:

Possession only works when your players are better than the other players. One wrong touch and the other team is on the attack and has advantage. When wins matter, all teams fall back on a direct style looking to feed their best athletes as quick as they can. A direct style is often confused with kick ball. In a direct style, players are attempting to purposefully cover distances with long balls. While there are many lower percentage long pass, its different that kick it hard and as far as it can go. Weaker teams facing possession team will always counter with a direct style, with weaker players falling back on kick-ball.

At the 7v7 and 9v9 stage - winning clubs do not play possession soccer. They play a direct style that is intended to boot it up the field to their skilled/fast studs/studdettes. Almost every 7v7 team has that "1 player" that can dominate. The teams that tend to win a lot of games have 3 or more of those dominant players.

At the younger 11v11 the dominant player has much more ground to cover and becomes easier to neutralize. We start to see possession style as a means to break down defenses until a direct opportunity presents itself.

At the older 11v11 levels, most teams are now attempting to play possession until they get behind and then its all bets are off and direct style to get some points.
 
MWN said:
My perspective as a referee:

Possession only works when your players are better than the other players. One wrong touch and the other team is on the attack and has advantage. When wins matter, all teams fall back on a direct style looking to feed their best athletes as quick as they can. A direct style is often confused with kick ball. In a direct style, players are attempting to purposefully cover distances with long balls. While there are many lower percentage long pass, its different that kick it hard and as far as it can go. Weaker teams facing possession team will always counter with a direct style, with weaker players falling back on kick-ball.

At the 7v7 and 9v9 stage - winning clubs do not play possession soccer. They play a direct style that is intended to boot it up the field to their skilled/fast studs/studdettes. Almost every 7v7 team has that "1 player" that can dominate. The teams that tend to win a lot of games have 3 or more of those dominant players.

At the younger 11v11 the dominant player has much more ground to cover and becomes easier to neutralize. We start to see possession style as a means to break down defenses until a direct opportunity presents itself.

At the older 11v11 levels, most teams are now attempting to play possession until they get behind and then its all bets are off and direct style to get some points.
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I have never seen any coach at any level (rec, club, high school, college, pro, weekend pickup games) that does not play to win.
 
espola said:
I have never seen any coach at any level (rec, club, high school, college, pro, weekend pickup games) that does not play to win.
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I have.

My son's first DA coach stated right at the start of the season that it wasn't his intention to win games. It was the club's first season in the DA and he knew we would be over matched a lot of the time and he kept having to remind everyone that his job was to develop players, not win games in a league where they don't even keep standings. And he kept to his word. Even when games were close, he would make decisions that were clearly better for developing players than winning games: their winger is strong, our wing back is handling him okay, but Johny needs experience defending against a dominant player, so let's move him there to see what he can learn...

He was, by far, the best coach my son has had.
 
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davin said:
Rumors flying all over the place in the NorthWest about Crossfire Premier leaving GDA to become an ECNL-only club. If true, that would be a major gain for ECNL, as Crossfire Premier has been one of the top clubs in the country the past few years.

http://talking-soccer.com/TS4/showthread.php?t=155816
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As long as ECNL only allows them one team per age group, it will be a plus. Allowing these clubs two teams in one age group is a little ridiculous. It's cutting off their nose to spite their face.
 
MarkM said:
As long as ECNL only allows them one team per age group, it will be a plus. Allowing these clubs two teams in one age group is a little ridiculous. It's cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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What teams have more than 1 team in an age group ???
 
It's impressive that the club (Crossfire) pays for all elite team travel. On the Crossfire website, it shows most age groups have 3 teams (olders) ) - DA, ECNL and RCL and 2 teams - ECNL/RCL (youngers. So if they are ECNL all in, what happens to their DA teams?
 
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