ECNL Phoenix Coaches list?

Justafan said:
Simple, 8 ECNL teams v. 13 DA teams, meaning the talent was even more concentrated last year. Don’t get me wrong DA is the top league for a good portion of the age groups and has the biggest chunk of the talent, but ECNL had more.
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Do you mean 11 ECNL teams from last year v. 13 DA teams this year? It was also 12 ECNL teams a few years back before LVPSA was dropped.
 
Justafan said:
Simple, 8 ECNL teams v. 13 DA teams, meaning the talent was even more concentrated last year. Don’t get me wrong DA is the top league for a good portion of the age groups and has the biggest chunk of the talent, but ECNL had more.[/QUOT

There were more ECNL teams because DA didn't exist for the girls last year, simple as that.
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Justafan said:
Simple, 8 ECNL teams v. 13 DA teams, meaning the talent was even more concentrated last year. Don’t get me wrong DA is the top league for a good portion of the age groups and has the biggest chunk of the talent, but ECNL had more.
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That doesn’t quite work. You had talented clubs like Beach and Legends - among others Galaxy LA/SD that weren’t ecnl but were top comp.

So the simple numbers game isn’t so simple. Quality clubs all over.

DA is better than ECNL from my perspective. The games are better and the talent is better. You can’t really say they are just promoted sides from ecnl. There are kids all over on these teams. The rosters are probably 33-50% different from last season if I had to guess.
 
Josep said:
I think Vegas should be represented in DA. There are some competitive teams and talented players there.

I wouldn’t move or travel beyond an hour. But DA isn’t the end all be all. I do believe it has its advantages. I believe the quality of play is better. And I hear from my ecnl friends that the level of play is significantly weaker than last year.
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I cannot begin to fathom the costs for 10 months worth of travel. :eek:
 
Josep said:
That doesn’t quite work. You had talented clubs like Beach and Legends - among others Galaxy LA/SD that weren’t ecnl but were top comp.

So the simple numbers game isn’t so simple. Quality clubs all over.

DA is better than ECNL from my perspective. The games are better and the talent is better. You can’t really say they are just promoted sides from ecnl. There are kids all over on these teams. The rosters are probably 33-50% different from last season if I had to guess.
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Aye aye aye, Lamb and Josep stop being so defensive. You win, DA is the top league, but that is not the what we’re talking about.

Let me put it another way, compare the 8 ECNL teams of any years past and compare them to the top 8 teams of DA this year, who has the better teams? I think most reasonable people would say ECNL, wouldn’t you? Why? Simply put, dispersion of talent among more teams and leagues.
 
Josep said:
That doesn’t quite work. You had talented clubs like Beach and Legends - among others Galaxy LA/SD that weren’t ecnl but were top comp.

So the simple numbers game isn’t so simple. Quality clubs all over.

DA is better than ECNL from my perspective. The games are better and the talent is better. You can’t really say they are just promoted sides from ecnl. There are kids all over on these teams. The rosters are probably 33-50% different from last season if I had to guess.
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I think the issue is that you now have 7 Ecnl clubs AND 13 GDA. That’s WAY to many. Imagine if you had half that number? Games would be more competitive.
 
Josep said:
That doesn’t quite work. You had talented clubs like Beach and Legends - among others Galaxy LA/SD that weren’t ecnl but were top comp.

So the simple numbers game isn’t so simple. Quality clubs all over.

DA is better than ECNL from my perspective. The games are better and the talent is better. You can’t really say they are just promoted sides from ecnl. There are kids all over on these teams. The rosters are probably 33-50% different from last season if I had to guess.
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Shouldn’t they be different? There are way more rosters fill.
 
shales1002 said:
I think the issue is that you now have 7 Ecnl clubs AND 13 GDA. That’s WAY to many. Imagine if you had half that number? Games would be more competitive.
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Who cares about whether it more competitive. The bottom line is there is more choice and opportunities than ever for girls. That’s good for everyone’s daughter.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Who cares about whether it more competitive. The bottom line is there is more choice and opportunities than ever for girls. That’s good for everyone’s daughter.
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Maybe you don't care, but many of us would prefer competitive games rather than blowouts. Not sure how you figure competitive mismatches are good for anyone, especially if you have to travel to play in a blowout.
 
davin said:
Maybe you don't care, but many of us would prefer competitive games rather than blowouts. Not sure how you figure competitive mismatches are good for anyone, especially if you have to travel to play in a blowout.
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Typical response. It’s all about what you want as a parent not about your kid. I don’t think blowouts are good but having more choice and opportunities is always a good thing.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Typical response. It’s all about what you want as a parent not about your kid. I don’t think blowouts are good but having more choice and opportunities is always a good thing.
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Man, you don't know me or my kid. My kid wants competition. She doesn't care if she scores a hat trick against inferior competition.
 
davin said:
Maybe you don't care, but many of us would prefer competitive games rather than blowouts. Not sure how you figure competitive mismatches are good for anyone, especially if you have to travel to play in a blowout.
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Totally agree. Traveling to showcase for a blowout does stink. I hope they do better with the match-ups at the spring showcase in Phoenix. There were some crazy scores at the fall showcase.
 
davin said:
Man, you don't know me or my kid. My kid wants competition. She doesn't care if she scores a hat trick against inferior competition.
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So you then think that there are too many ECNL and DA teams and there should be less teams? Maybe your and my kid would then not have the same opportunities. That’s not good.
 
MarkM said:
Totally agree. Traveling to showcase for a blowout does stink. I hope they do better with the match-ups at the spring showcase in Phoenix. There were some crazy scores at the fall showcase.
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There were maybe 3 mismatched games at most. Are you sure you're looking at Phoenix Fall?
 
Josep said:
That doesn’t quite work. You had talented clubs like Beach and Legends - among others Galaxy LA/SD that weren’t ecnl but were top comp.

So the simple numbers game isn’t so simple. Quality clubs all over.

DA is better than ECNL from my perspective. The games are better and the talent is better. You can’t really say they are just promoted sides from ecnl. There are kids all over on these teams. The rosters are probably 33-50% different from last season if I had to guess.
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The competition level as compared to the original SoCal ECNL clubs isn't close. Beach, Legends and LA Galaxy(Carlsbad Elite) are relative newcomers on the scene. ECNL was an improvement in SoCal over it's predecessor CSL Premier (although Premier was for the most part merit based). DA exists in a diluted talent pool. To argue otherwise is illogical.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
So you then think that there are too many ECNL and DA teams and there should be less teams? Maybe your and my kid would then not have the same opportunities. That’s not good.
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Just maybe every child is not meant to play in an elite league? I can see it now the AYSO Ventura Pansies DA.
 
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