ECNL Girls Playoffs 2026

US soccer will always be this way due to the role of easy money (from naive, rich parents)... one league will command respect and get complacent while another rises up. Until there is a zero-pay-for-play option for girls/womens soccer, we'll keep having these cycles and debates
 
5 of 17 = 29.4117647%
4 of 16 = 25%
3 of 16 = 18.75%
3 of 12 = 25%
2 of 11 = 18.1818182%
2 of 10 = 20%
2 of 9 = 22.2222222%

But some of the regional leagues appear to be getting screwed because their number is variable depending on wildcards. Southwest has the most guaranteed playoffs teams even if they have the most teams in their league.

Looks fair-ish but I bet there's still a situation where #6 #7 Southwest will be ranked higher then other regional leagues that get a playoffs invite.
Same as it ever was. The bottom SW teams at playoffs are always stronger than the bottom playoff teams from most other regions.

Lot of talent in SW squeezed into not very many teams.
 
Many college coaches do not even take the time to attend GA playoffs/showcases.
That pretty much sums up what they think about GA vs ECNL. Rationalize all you want about GA.
Take the time to compare that list of coaches to an ECNL showcase. More importantly, look to see which coaches are NOT there.
Heard it straight from them. Given a limited travel budget for recruiting, they don’t have the money to attend both GA/ECNL events. So they choose ECNL. More bang for the buck.
 
Heard it straight from college coaches on College Soccer Nation podcast last summer (2024) - they talk about the difference in quality of the two leagues at playoffs and flat out say ECNL is better quality. This summer, they didn't talk at all about GA playoffs at all - just ECNL.
 
Take the time to compare that list of coaches to an ECNL showcase. More importantly, look to see which coaches are NOT there.
Heard it straight from them. Given a limited travel budget for recruiting, they don’t have the money to attend both GA/ECNL events. So they choose ECNL. More bang for the buck.
Big U frequently sends “Assistant Coach #2” to the GA events. Show the name and hat and the latest NIke trainers.
 
Take the time to compare that list of coaches to an ECNL showcase. More importantly, look to see which coaches are NOT there.
Heard it straight from them. Given a limited travel budget for recruiting, they don’t have the money to attend both GA/ECNL events. So they choose ECNL. More bang for the buck.
First it was "college coaches dont take the time" which was quickly proven incorrect.

Now it's "compare to an ECNL showcase"

Next it will be "left handed recruiters with red hair, on a tuesday"

I'll let you in on a secret. The only schools that matter are the ones your kid is targeting. If they show up to an event your league is providing great. Maybe they'll get a chance to look at your kid. If not theres still camps and club connections to leverage.
 
Same as it ever was. The bottom SW teams at playoffs are always stronger than the bottom playoff teams from most other regions.

Lot of talent in SW squeezed into not very many teams.

If you look at post #33 it shows there will be 9 teams at play offs between 3 playoff seeding. 9 teams from Socal.
The North American Cup and Showcase Cup are all in the same location with the same scouts.
 
Many college coaches do not even take the time to attend GA playoffs/showcases.
That pretty much sums up what they think about GA vs ECNL. Rationalize all you want about GA.
Not from what i've seen at GA Champions Cup and the Playoffs. There were plenty of power 4 coaches watching. What is "many"? Like 300 vs 250? Looked like hundreds of coaches (DI, DII, DIII) to me at these events. Again, ECNL is better at the top. No question. In the meantime we are having fun taking out all the great SW ECNL teams this summer... If your good, your good. Coaches will notice.
 
Is ignoring an entire group of players a good or a bad thing?

Does ignoring an entire group of players imply bias?

Unfortunately youth soccer has a lot of bad actors that work as a team to maintain control. Its how they guarantee their paychecks.
If they only have so much money and so much time, they'll go where they can see a larger group of talent. It makes sense.
 
Is ignoring an entire group of players a good or a bad thing?

Does ignoring an entire group of players imply bias?

Unfortunately youth soccer has a lot of bad actors that work as a team to maintain control. Its how they guarantee their paychecks.
Imagine NPL/E64 teams trying to say that they are a better option for GA teams if they're not one of the top five GA clubs in the country. Now THAT is a valid point since if you're not one of those top GA teams then you're not going to get love from colleges. And I'm sure NPL/E64 families feel that it's not fair that their entire group is being overlooked. And maybe they view GA as the bad actors/gate keepers since they won't accept their teams.
 
Imagine NPL/E64 teams trying to say that they are a better option for GA teams if they're not one of the top five GA clubs in the country. Now THAT is a valid point since if you're not one of those top GA teams then you're not going to get love from colleges. And I'm sure NPL/E64 families feel that it's not fair that their entire group is being overlooked. And maybe they view GA as the bad actors/gate keepers since they won't accept their teams.
Maybe I dont really know. If NPL clubs are good enough to play in GA great, bring them into the fold.

Something I always found funny about showcase pictures that ECNL hypes in their marketing is there's what seems like over 100 recruiters sitting on the sidelines watching a single game. I get from a league perspective this is what you want to show. But from a recruiter perspective what are you doing? If each team has 22 players its means theres only 44 possible players you could be looking at. If theres 100 recruiters at a game this means over half have no chance at the players. Even then there's probabaly only 10 players per team that are recruitable which means 80% of the recruiters watching the game have no chance at getting a player on the field.

I think more likely with pics like that ECNL is setting up a bar + food tent off just out of view of the camera which brings them all in at the end of the day.
 
Many college coaches do not even take the time to attend GA playoffs/showcases.
That pretty much sums up what they think about GA vs ECNL. Rationalize all you want about GA.
Where are you getting your info? There were coaches from 40+ colleges (primarily D1) at our most recent GA showcases and playoffs. They had to put some on the parents' touchline because the other side was full.
 
They're starting to see things even out between the different leagues and are lashing out because of it. Also there's a very good chance a big Southwest club switches to GA if it gets them MLSN. This spring will be interesting.

(My money is on a certain club in Norco + all their satellite locations considering MLSN+GA)
I would love to see this, but you've been saying it for a while now! You have surprising track record / ability to predict stuff like this, so I don't doubt you, but let's get it happening soon!
 
https://collegesoccernation.podbean.com/page/5/

And like I said, this year, they didn't say a word about GA playoffs
I listened to this podcast, and they don't say what has been claimed. In fact, they say the opposite. If anyone listens, the relevant discussion of the huge college attendance at the GA showcase is at 26:00 through 31:00. Of the three hosts (all three are D1 college coaches) one went to the ECNL event, one went to the GA event, and one of them went to both. Take it for what it is worth. They do acknowledge what Carlsbad has said many times, which is that the GA level tapers off dramatically in the bottom half, but the top teams are excellent at both.
 
Overall...

ECNL is stronger than GA
ECNL gets more players into D1 (~3:1 ECNL:GA)
ECNL has more coaches at events

but...

Top half of GA is still strong
Bottom half of both leagues are weak
There are GA teams that are stronger than ECNL teams
GA still gets plenty of coaches at events
100s of players from GA still get into D1 each year

So...

GA is a good option even though ECNL is overall stronger
Just because one option is better doesn't mean the other one sucks

And...

If recruiting/exposure is all one cares about, preference in order would generally be - top tier ECNL team, top tier GA team, mid tier ECNL team, mid tier GA team, bottom tier ECNL team, bottom tier GA team. Lots of variables here such as geography, age group and outlier teams.
 
I would love to see this, but you've been saying it for a while now! You have surprising track record / ability to predict stuff like this, so I don't doubt you, but let's get it happening soon!
I dont have any kind of magic super-sense. My kids started very young and we've always had to deal with the top team drama. We were around when DA was the top league. Once you've been around it all long enough you start to see patterns and names + faces (on the club side) happening over and over again.

One thing thats always impressed me is certain Coaches DOCs and Club Owners always seem to find a way to be successful. It doesnt matter what the name of the club that they're representing is. What's also interesting is some club leaders are more $$$ focused and others get wins. But they could probabaly change things up and be successful however they choose to prioritize.

The reason I hinted about the Norco club is if you watch which clubs are attending each others tournamants its a pretty good indicator of who from a club leadership perspective gets along together. Its also obvious that they could become a boys powerhouse fairly quickly with all their locations. And finally im sure MLSN+GA want to get involved with that facility so they can prioritize times and schedules. It all just seems to make sense.
 
the thread has veered way off... the answer to the original question is on page 2, and the thread could have been closed.
That being said, folks are missing the point that colleges want players that can play. if you are riding the bench and don't play due to poor ability at a ECNL team that won nationals, no college wants you. If you are on a bottom tier GA team, but you can light it up and have solid skills, there's a college that wants you. The club provides a platform and we can argue which platform is better. In modern day recruiting, so much is done by video compared to years ago, that even a mediocre platform backed up with good communication will suffice. Now, for the Power 4 schools, they do care about a player's experience in playing against high level competition and most do want to brag that their recruited player came from top club (both of these currently favor ECNL)... 95% of people reading this thread do not need to worry about the P4 recruiting though
 
Overall...

ECNL is stronger than GA
ECNL gets more players into D1 (~3:1 ECNL:GA)
ECNL has more coaches at events

but...

Top half of GA is still strong
Bottom half of both leagues are weak
There are GA teams that are stronger than ECNL teams
GA still gets plenty of coaches at events
100s of players from GA still get into D1 each year

So...

GA is a good option even though ECNL is overall stronger
Just because one option is better doesn't mean the other one sucks

And...

If recruiting/exposure is all one cares about, preference in order would generally be - top tier ECNL team, top tier GA team, mid tier ECNL team, mid tier GA team, bottom tier ECNL team, bottom tier GA team. Lots of variables here such as geography, age group and outlier teams.
Your ranking is correct, and none of the above seems inaccurate. But it underplays the relative differences between the leagues as if one was just a smidgen higher and the other one was almost as good. It is a wide, wide gulf between them in terms of recruiting, quality of play, or any other soccer-focused metric you chose to use to compare. Look at 2009G. GA has 21 teams in the top 100 nationally. That's awesome! And it's better than almost any other league. Except one. ECNL has 71 of the top 100 teams, not even counting ECNL-RL. And 19 of the top 20. There are a very small handful of competitive GA teams, and the entire rest of the league is made up of also-rans. GA proponents like to say how many terrible ECNL teams/clubs there are, but won't mention how many GA teams/clubs would fit in the very same category. At some point there may be more parity, and in attempting to get there, it challenges both leagues to do better in all aspects. But anyone stating (or believing) that it's a close race right now is delusional.
 
Back
Top