Dominic: Why do you allow clear racists in your forum?

Giesbock said:
Seems to me that this whole back and forth isn’t a collection of liberals and conservatives defending a position or political belief. More like a bunch of people with a head full of dried kidney beans rattling around in their skulls and a dose of online mojo / courage that comes with being allowed to hide behind a stage name.
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Thank you Mr Giesbock.
 
Am I out of line to suggest that rather than try and censor or cancel out Joe and Outlaw, that it might be more productive (to those who have been offended) to head over to the Off Topic Forum and expose the soft ground their arguments rest upon?
 
From my experience the least tolerant people I have every met are mostly liberal. If you don't share their opinion they believe you have no right to yours. Personally I prefer to hear everyone's opinion (except ETOL!, lol) and then form my own . Also nowhere in any definition of racism does it mention that racists belong only to a certain race or political party.
 
tenacious said:
Am I out of line to suggest that rather than try and censor or cancel out Joe and Outlaw, that it might be more productive (to those who have been offended) to head over to the Off Topic Forum and expose the soft ground their arguments rest upon?
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For the record, I didn't hijack this thread, but I'd love to debate you on the appropriate forum. Me and my soft ground have been waiting for someone like you to offer an articulate argument to the facts I've posted and points I've made. "You're a racist" doesn't accomplish much.
 
I have to say that the number of political postings on many channels, mostly repetitive, has gotten very irritating of late. That said, the premise of the censorship based on "your" definition of others is pretty pathetic. Everyone has the option to "ignore" a poster or just skip past what they say. I haven't put anyone on "ignore" but I certainly do skip past many posters on certain threads (not all) because they and others have gone down the rabbit hole again.

I'll add that I like a robust political discussion as much as the next person, but what I see here isn't a discussion as much as labelling and intransigence. The title of this whole thread just bears that out. Labelling someone you don't know a "racist" based on some slivers of posts that don't "agree" with your position is pathetically weak.

To me @Sheriff Joe has been trolling for a long time here, successfully I might add, even amusingly at times. @The Outlaw throws out facts which are just that, contextually not quite what they seem to be at times (*) but facts none the less, so debate on that. Anyone with strong convictions should be happy to debate on facts.

No country or society is perfect. The US has many problems and enormous opportunities and potential. My hope is that we take this opportunity to move forward, work on solving the problems and harnessing the potential to make our country better. My expectation is not that - it's sad to be honest.

(*) For example, its a fact that more whites are killed by the police than blacks, but its also a fact that blacks are killed at a proportionally higher rate than whites, just as they are arrested & convicted higher rates. As @The Outlaw has stated blacks are 19% of the population versus 62% white, so take his "killed by police" facts and do the math.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
From my experience the least tolerant people I have every met are mostly liberal. If you don't share their opinion they believe you have no right to yours. Personally I prefer to hear everyone's opinion (except ETOL!, lol) and then form my own . Also nowhere in any definition of racism does it mention that racists belong only to a certain race or political party.
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You have that experience because you hear only want to hear . Liberal means... equally across all areas... People don’t like liberals because they are always asking for fairness to be applied... Selfish people are working the angles... trying to get ahead...walking over their fellow man.

the selfish gladly consoled themselves with the thought that though it was merciful at least it was not liberal;

Karl Polanyi,
 
Soccermaverick said:
You have that experience because you hear only want to hear . Liberal means... equally across all areas... People don’t like liberals because they are always asking for fairness to be applied... Selfish people are working the angles... trying to get ahead...walking over their fellow man.

the selfish gladly consoled themselves with the thought that though it was merciful at least it was not liberal;

Karl Polanyi,
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Fairness? Is it fair to make wealthy people pay more in taxes because they have more money? Why is someone with less entitled to more? Where do you draw the line?
 
Soccermaverick said:
You have that experience because you hear only want to hear . Liberal means... equally across all areas... People don’t like liberals because they are always asking for fairness to be applied... Selfish people are working the angles... trying to get ahead...walking over their fellow man.

the selfish gladly consoled themselves with the thought that though it was merciful at least it was not liberal;

Karl Polanyi,
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I might be a bit ignorant but is there any liberal state not heavily in debt? Illinois is near collapse; calif is begging the feds for their 54 billion in debt; CT and Ma is a lost cause; NY is on its knees; Wash has massive problems; just someone let me know which liberal state is fiscally in black?
 
The Outlaw said:
For the record, I didn't hijack this thread, but I'd love to debate you on the appropriate forum. Me and my soft ground have been waiting for someone like you to offer an articulate argument to the facts I've posted and points I've made. "You're a racist" doesn't accomplish much.
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Didn't you just say you were done here?
 
The Outlaw said:
Fairness? Is it fair to make wealthy people pay more in taxes because they have more money? Why is someone with less entitled to more? Where do you draw the line?
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There are 400 people in the US that have more wealth than all the people in the UK... they are the billionaire class... so here is the scale you need to understand about fairness

If you made $1000 an hour, and worked 40 hours a week without vacations, and you had no expenses so you could save all of it, and your first day of work was the day the Declaration of Independence was signed, and worked to present day. You would have a billion dollars in just two more lifetimes!
 
And this thread is now ruined! LOL. I am going to start a new thread with a topic related to soccer gear for the fall, I am sure it will get political somehow. LMAO
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
And this thread is now ruined! LOL. I am going to start a new thread with a topic related to soccer gear for the fall, I am sure it will get political somehow. LMAO
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I don't see how you would be surprised since the title is clearly political. It is a good question to debate, though.

FYI - bigsoccer.com has groups that overlap most of the soccer content here, and moderators that keep the discussions from wandering pointlessly. There are also off-topic and political forums there, but I have never even looked into them.
 
espola said:
I don't see how you would be surprised since the title is clearly political. It is a good question to debate, though.

FYI - bigsoccer.com has groups that overlap most of the soccer content here, and moderators that keep the discussions from wandering pointlessly. There are also off-topic and political forums there, but I have never even looked into them.
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Thanks for the tip @espola!
 
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