Discovery League

jpeter said:
Yeah true but just hold a showcase near the the end like week 8 or something if that's the reason. Silverlakes is already rented.

There are Thanksgiving showcases anyway and those will be attended by college types so why not have a dsl bracket or something during those? Playing the same teams you did during the season doesn't make a interesting showcase for the players.

By spring teams are doing other things:. CRL, Nat cup, NPL, etc so a new obscure showcase may well not be attended by certain teams or Scouts.
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I do not know what SCDSL is planning for the “showcase”, but my hope would be simply that it would be played before the Vegas Players Showcase so teams would have the opportunity for a few friendly games to prepare for Vegas. To me, this is preferable to overpaying to play in some random SoCal tournament just to play even weaker SoCal teams in order to prepare for Vegas.
 
timbuck said:
I'll ask it again - Why not put the parents on the same side as the team?
A-hole coaches and A-hole sidelines will still exist. But at least it will give a coach a chance to hear and address anything their sideline is doing.
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I've said it before, Parents sitting on the same side as their team a generally worse behaved. They feed off of the coaches energy and the coach rarely attempts to quiet them down.

It's like politics, when your in your own political vacuum and only hear your own side, you are gonna think you are right. At least sitting on the same same makes you realize that the other parents are just as angry as you. And if you are real honest with yourself, you may realize that your own comments sound just as ridiculous as theirs do.
 
Slammerdad said:
What is that supposed to mean? The Slammers organization has over 100 teams and you want to generalize every team based on what? In fact, the Slammers have subsets of groups i.e. South Slammers, CDA Slammers, Slammers....so please be intelligent about things when you quote. Guess your games against the Slammers teams didn't go your way. That's too bad. :)
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Actually almost all the games we play against slammers goes our way. But we have yet to play a slammers team that didn’t have some players with nasty attitudes and parents who were the same. Maybe it’s my daughters age group but in her age group it’s all of them. Even when we watch them play other teams, coaches being ejected and parents screaming at players and refs. If your team isn’t one of them (and I’m sure a lot of the new teams being swallowed up by them aren’t) then But the OG Slammers team see giving you newbies a bad name
 
soccermama213 said:
Actually almost all the games we play against slammers goes our way. But we have yet to play a slammers team that didn’t have some players with nasty attitudes and parents who were the same. Maybe it’s my daughters age group but in her age group it’s all of them. Even when we watch them play other teams, coaches being ejected and parents screaming at players and refs. If your team isn’t one of them (and I’m sure a lot of the new teams being swallowed up by them aren’t) then But the OG Slammers team see giving you newbies a bad name
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Clearly you haven't played alot of Slammers teams. What you are saying is entirely false, misleading and clearly bent due to some personal issues you have with the label Slammers. I once posted that when a Blues team loses, an Angel get's it's wings. I meant that as a compliment that they truly embody a winning spirit and attitude. You need to get out more and watch more games. My DD plays for a long time South Slammer team and we are nothing like you describe. We have been together 5+ years. Perhaps your handle (213) gives away your locale so you play only teams in LA County/North OC. I would tell you that those are some of the most successful teams and oldest teams we have. So stop mislabeling a great program. Of course, we have tryouts every Spring, if your daughter is good enough, maybe she could make a Slammer squad!
 
Slammerdad said:
Clearly you haven't played alot of Slammers teams. What you are saying is entirely false, misleading and clearly bent due to some personal issues you have with the label Slammers. I once posted that when a Blues team loses, an Angel get's it's wings. I meant that as a compliment that they truly embody a winning spirit and attitude. You need to get out more and watch more games. My DD plays for a long time South Slammer team and we are nothing like you describe. We have been together 5+ years. Perhaps your handle (213) gives away your locale so you play only teams in LA County/North OC. I would tell you that those are some of the most successful teams and oldest teams we have. So stop mislabeling a great program. Of course, we have tryouts every Spring, if your daughter is good enough, maybe she could make a Slammer squad!
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Lol my 213 handle has nothing to do with where I live. Couldn’t pay me to live in that area code. Got to play slammers this weekend. Ended as it always does with game being called and girls fighting. Like I said in my second post it may not be all teams but there are clearly a large amount of teams and parents who are giving the rest of you r club a bad rap. I’m not the only one who says that. And as far as my daughter playing for slammers, she was asked once after we played a slammers team if she wanted to switch and she replied with no thank you. She’s happy where she’s at. Good luck and I’m glad your team is doing well and successful and has great attitudes. Several in our age bracket however are not
 
Messi>CR7 said:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...all-future-warns-association-european-leagues
11 of the biggest clubs in the world are trying to form its own super league with a no-relegation guarantee for 20 years. They must have been following the success of our youth leagues in SoCal. We figured this out years ago :)
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No relegation? Ummm... you need a division below you for that. This new league would be a standalone so relegation in that league would be a swift kick in the butt out the door style.

It sounds exciting but I think losing some of the big darbys would hurt. And don't expect the top teams from the Super League to get an invitation to the Champions League. In fact, most of those teams already qualify for CL but would be missing out now even if Uefa decided to extend invites to the new league. But if the Champions League disappears as some have suggested then these clubs will hold all the power...

Meanwhile, PSG? Milan? Marseille? Roma? Inter? These clubs don't have enough clout and could be the "Tier 2" of this new league.
 
Overtime said:
Would be good if that is the case. In G02 there are 3 Legends and 3 Slammers teams while the Beach team slotted for the spot was not included on initial invites. This Beach team qualified for CRL, beat and tied the National Cup final four and finalist teams in May and June tournaments. One of the Legends teams included failed to qualify for CRL and was an average flight 2 team last year. I guess we know who has the power in SCDSL.
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Take a look at the Go2 Discovery standings....the 3 Legends and 3 Slammers teams occupy 5 of the bottom 6 spots in the standings...just as argued...they did not belong.
 
For those that played in this amazing (the best!) new division- Do you want your team to play in it again next year?
Or is “just” being in Flight 1 an ok thing for you?
 
timbuck said:
For those that played in this amazing (the best!) new division- Do you want your team to play in it again next year?
Or is “just” being in Flight 1 an ok thing for you?
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B03 was very competitive. I imagine that all the teams would have been champions if there wasn't a DSL. I definitely want out team to participate next year. If next years teams are placed correctly, then the competition should be even better. There were some teams that probably wished they had played in Champions or Europa.
 
G04 had a handful that should not have been in Discovery and their record shows that. 75% were competitive games for the most part. Had Discovery not been created odds are most of these teams would have played each other anyway. Not sure I've really seen the benefit of Discovery. Two Slammers teams in 1st/2nd with two Slammers teams in the last two positions,Legends and Surf in the middle.

Playing in one location at the same time every weekend made planning easy however being in Norco and having over half of the games being played in temps in the 90's and 100's was a drawback. Nothing will ever be perfect so that would be my primary feedback. Hopefully a better screening process for teams will take place next season. Good luck to those playing high school.

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I think if they are going to continue with "Discovery" for next year, then you get rid of Champions/Europa and just have "Discovery" and Flight 1 by Geography (3 or 4 groupings)
2004 This year:
  • Discovery had 11 teams. One could argue that a few of them would have been better off in another group. But I like teams that shoot a little higher than where they probably belong. And I don't know the roster or injury situations. The Top 6 teams are VERY close in points, with a few ties separating them.
  • In Flight 1 "Champions" you had 6 teams. Every one played each team twice. One team was clearly dominant, while the others were fairly close
  • Europa East had 6 teams - Every played everyone twice - One team dominated. 4 were very close. 1 had a rough season.
  • Europa South had 10 teams - Everyone played everyone once. 2 teams were dominant. The other 8 were close. Even the 2 teams at the bottom, had very close losses that could have been tied. Or ties that could have been wins.
  • Europa West had 8 teams. Everyone played each team at least once. Some played twice. Bit of a luck of the draw when this happens if you get matched up against a tough opponent 2x while someone else gets an easier team to play twice.

I'd personally love to see it where they do half a season by geography and then re-shuffle the teams based upon record for the 2nd half of the season.
 
Multi Sport said:
How would you propose clubs secure fields for this?
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How would it be much different than today?
I’m talking strictly for flight 1, but no reason it couldn’t work in other groups as well.
Would take a bit of planning and some patience. And a club might pay for a field or 2 that isn't used while the 2nd half details get worked out.
 
timbuck said:
How would it be much different than today?
I’m talking strictly for flight 1, but no reason it couldn’t work in other groups as well.
Would take a bit of planning and some patience. And a club might pay for a field or 2 that isn't used while the 2nd half details get worked out.
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If you remix the teams then the schedule is changed. Clubs secure the fields in advance unless like E posted and you have all games at the same venue like the Disco division.
 
Maybe you have the 1st week of the reshuffle all played at a neutral (Silverlakes, great park, polo fields) Field.
Then you figure out a way to align with home and away fields.
It could work. It would just a little extra planning and some extra work. And it won’t be perfect for every team. Some may have an extra away game or 2.
 
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