DA and ECNL

You know what's silly? Half the clubs you mentioned to make the case that GDA has the top players will no longer be playing in GDA this year and will be competing only in ECNL, and another one on your list(SoCal Blues) placed its 2 best teams(2001 and 2002) in ECNL last year and will continue to do so this year.

You know what else is silly? Your understanding that the dialogue for the last few pages on this thread was "only referring to one lil' group". LOL. I'm not going to rehash it here, but it was across multiple age groups in Silverlakes. Start a few pages back and check it out. Reading is fundamental, my friend.

And speaking of "rose colored glasses". I think you might be able to find them. Some dude in Texas has been wearing them. Might help to look in the mirror. ;)

My discussion about where top players are WAS specific to the 05 group, because that’s the player pool I know. You made it broader, and when you did, you picked some sample results that were mostly indicative of MVLA 04’s strength. NorCal is one market where GDA is taking longer. It’s pointless to argue every point because GDA is a whopping year old and some people hear what they want to hear. Time will tell how the leagues will go.
 
Also, top players are not a large number. There are really just a handful in each age group. Comparing team results is not necessarily a reliable way to decide where they are. You might decide that’s the best data you have so far, but that doesn’t mean it’s valid.
 
My discussion about where top players are WAS specific to the 05 group, because that’s the player pool I know. You made it broader, and when you did, you picked some sample results that were mostly indicative of MVLA 04’s strength. NorCal is one market where GDA is taking longer. It’s pointless to argue every point because GDA is a whopping year old and some people hear what they want to hear. Time will tell how the leagues will go.
This is the post on this thread that started the discussion about the results at Silverlakes across ALL age groups, and the relative strengths of GDA teams vs. ECNL teams. Did you somehow miss it?
http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/da-and-ecnl.5306/page-26#post-215759

You're backtracking now. You didn't mention the 05 group. You said "most top players have already gone GDA."
http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/da-and-ecnl.5306/page-31#post-216454
 
It’s difficult to use Silverlakes and Surf to measure DA vs ECNL since this was the first event of the preseason. Just per speculation but would think ECNL teams have more roster continuity at the older ages than DA teams since they are single age group teams vs dual age. In our case we have 9 new girls on our team and I think that will make us stronger this season. We beat both a ECNL teams we faced but our girls need to get use to playing together.
 
This is the post on this thread that started the discussion about the results at Silverlakes across ALL age groups, and the relative strengths of GDA teams vs. ECNL teams. Did you somehow miss it?
http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/da-and-ecnl.5306/page-26#post-215759

You're backtracking now. You didn't mention the 05 group. You said "most top players have already gone GDA."
http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/da-and-ecnl.5306/page-31#post-216454
“If you have a younger”. I know the 05 player pool very well and the 04 pool fairly well. Beyond those two age groups I don’t pay close attention.
 
It’s difficult to use Silverlakes and Surf to measure DA vs ECNL since this was the first event of the preseason. Just per speculation but would think ECNL teams have more roster continuity at the older ages than DA teams since they are single age group teams vs dual age. In our case we have 9 new girls on our team and I think that will make us stronger this season. We beat both a ECNL teams we faced but our girls need to get use to playing together.

Yes. My daughter’s first DA game was a loss to a top ECNL team. It was her DA team’s first game ever together. I actually think that ECNL team would beat my daughter’s team more times than not, but given a few games under their belt they will certainly be competitive in a re-match. I also think that club will be DA before too long.
 
“If you have a younger”. I know the 05 player pool very well and the 04 pool fairly well. Beyond those two age groups I don’t pay close attention.
You were asked a few pages ago on this thread how you came to the conclusion that the best players had already migrated to GDA in the younger age groups, including the 05's and 04's, and only answer is your "knowledge" of the age groups? Ummm. OK.
 
You were asked a few pages ago on this thread how you came to the conclusion that the best players had already migrated to GDA in the younger age groups, including the 05's and 04's pages ago, and only answer is your "knowledge" of the age groups? Ummm. OK.

Again, you don’t have to agree. I’m not speaking to the ECNL die hards. I’m speaking to parents who want to know more about DA and whose minds are open. I’d be curious to hear the opinions of others who actually know the age group and get to see NTC and U14 national pool up close.
 
Yes. My daughter’s first DA game was a loss to a top ECNL team. It was her DA team’s first game ever together. I actually think that ECNL team would beat my daughter’s team more times than not, but given a few games under their belt they will certainly be competitive in a re-match. I also think that club will be DA before too long.
Whose your daughter play for?
 
Again, you don’t have to agree. I’m not speaking to the ECNL die hards. I’m speaking to parents who want to know more about DA and whose minds are open. I’d be curious to hear the opinions of others who actually know the age group and get to see NTC and U14 national pool up close.
If you are asking about 05s u14 my opinion is Surf and Slammers (last year pre academy this years lafc) are stand alone top 2 teams 1 is DA 1 is ECNL. The next best 6 to 10 teams are DA teams you can reasonably argue Heat into that group I do not know much about AZ clubs yet. Sucks for LAFC Slammers
 
Yes. My daughter’s first DA game was a loss to a top ECNL team. It was her DA team’s first game ever together. I actually think that ECNL team would beat my daughter’s team more times than not, but given a few games under their belt they will certainly be competitive in a re-match. I also think that club will be DA before too long.

This is a realistic view. There are many players on the top ECNL teams who could be on DA teams but have chosen not to. In fact, in San Diego anyway, what was to be the Surf 05 ECNL team is arguably the 2nd best team in SD, ahead of Albion and Galaxy SD DA. Sharks ECNL is in the same league as Albion and Galaxy SD DA as well, and there are a handful of SCDSL/SDDA teams that can keep up as well.

I think the point lost here, even though it's stated repeatedly, is that there are only a handful of truly elite players in SoCal, despite the huge number of excellent players around. Those elite players can be found on a handful of teams right now - some DA, some ECNL and a random few at the local level. DA and ECNL are different options for good players. The rest is old people trying to feel good about their kids' success.
 
Whose your daughter play for?

Don't know you, but do you expect an answer from this passive aggressive question which is
meant to silence people by threatening to out their kid to the public?

I will give you where my kid plays for:
1. A team where everyone tries to get along and try to like each other. Coach will not allow disrespect.
2. A well-respected and honest coach who believes in my player and believes in development at the cost of winning.
3. Parents who are mostly well-balanced and supportive of the entire team.
4. Close enough drive where we can have a normal family life.
5. My player loves to play and is truly developing as a player and as a person.

If this is not your team, where your kid plays really means little.
 
Don't know you, but do you expect an answer from this passive aggressive question which is
meant to silence people by threatening to out their kid to the public?

I will give you where my kid plays for:
1. A team where everyone tries to get along and try to like each other. Coach will not allow disrespect.
2. A well-respected and honest coach who believes in my player and believes in development at the cost of winning.
3. Parents who are mostly well-balanced and supportive of the entire team.
4. Close enough drive where we can have a normal family life.
5. My player loves to play and is truly developing as a player and as a person.

If this is not your team, where your kid plays really means little.
You took a simple and inquisitive question way to far. I was interested because this parent is an 05. And I having an 05 like to reach out to other posters. No wonder this individual PM’d.
 
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Don't know you, but do you expect an answer from this passive aggressive question which is
meant to silence people by threatening to out their kid to the public?

I will give you where my kid plays for:
1. A team where everyone tries to get along and try to like each other. Coach will not allow disrespect.
2. A well-respected and honest coach who believes in my player and believes in development at the cost of winning.
3. Parents who are mostly well-balanced and supportive of the entire team.
4. Close enough drive where we can have a normal family life.
5. My player loves to play and is truly developing as a player and as a person.

If this is not your team, where your kid plays really means little.
I think you have misinterpreted Lastman’s intentions....not all of us are looking to argue broad generalizations using such small cross sections.
 
Don't know you, but do you expect an answer from this passive aggressive question which is
meant to silence people by threatening to out their kid to the public?

I will give you where my kid plays for:
1. A team where everyone tries to get along and try to like each other. Coach will not allow disrespect.
2. A well-respected and honest coach who believes in my player and believes in development at the cost of winning.
3. Parents who are mostly well-balanced and supportive of the entire team.
4. Close enough drive where we can have a normal family life.
5. My player loves to play and is truly developing as a player and as a person.

If this is not your team, where your kid plays really means little.

Talk about missing your target...
While you clearly got LM pegged wrong, you sure gave us some insight into you.
 
Don't know you, but do you expect an answer from this passive aggressive question which is
meant to silence people by threatening to out their kid to the public?

I will give you where my kid plays for:
1. A team where everyone tries to get along and try to like each other. Coach will not allow disrespect.
2. A well-respected and honest coach who believes in my player and believes in development at the cost of winning.
3. Parents who are mostly well-balanced and supportive of the entire team.
4. Close enough drive where we can have a normal family life.
5. My player loves to play and is truly developing as a player and as a person.

If this is not your team, where your kid plays really means little.
Reminds me of a song,
Jim Reeves - Snowflake - YouTube
▶ 2:09
 
You know what's silly? Half the clubs you mentioned to make the case that GDA has the top players will no longer be playing in GDA this year and will be competing only in ECNL, and another one on your list(SoCal Blues) placed its 2 best teams(2001 and 2002) in ECNL last year and will continue to do so this year.

You know what else is silly? Your understanding that the dialogue for the last few pages on this thread was "only referring to one lil' group". LOL. I'm not going to rehash it here, but it was across multiple age groups in Silverlakes. Start a few pages back and check it out. Reading is fundamental, my friend.

And speaking of "rose colored glasses". I think you might be able to find them. Some dude in Texas has been wearing them. Might help to look in the mirror. ;)

Love, love, love this ^ davin ...

Ya know ... We should touch on the value of reading and how "fundamental" it really is. You'd figure that if you were gonna spend this much time engaging my stuff you'd at least read through my, what ... 4 posts in total?, here in the past couple days. Literally wrote "Not to say that a handful haven't now gone back, but ..." . I mean, C'mon dude ... Ya couldn't be painting yourself as more of a blind faith "All inner" here, could ya?

And I'm absolutely happy to admit that, yes ... I'm a newbie to this particular thread ... Haven't been kickin' it here as it seems you have -- came in just a couple days ago reading here and there, and interjecting when compelled. Other than your lil' blurb on page 30 or so mentioning Silverlakes, that's all I saw regarding that event. That being said however ... A couple of my players did happen to attend the Thanksgiving Showcase there last Nov and, while I'm sure it was going on somewhere (maybe in some auxiliary division on some field off in the corner that some Texan (I am from CA by the way) wouldn't know about), I saw or heard of exactly zero GDA vs ECNL comp going on ... sooo ... anyway ...

Again, I have to say -- very "Californian" of ya. Regardless of any lil' ole event that happens out in your neck o' the woods in some irrelevant (to this point) match or or two, it lends exactly squat to your cute little argument when it comes to the grand scheme here bub (it is adorable though :cool:) --

BTW davin ... I have three kids ... and only one of em participates in the GDA. Ya care to take a stab at where the others play there junior?

Guess I'll see ya out there ; )
 
Love, love, love this ^ davin ...

Ya know ... We should touch on the value of reading and how "fundamental" it really is. You'd figure that if you were gonna spend this much time engaging my stuff you'd at least read through my, what ... 4 posts in total?, here in the past couple days. Literally wrote "Not to say that a handful haven't now gone back, but ..." . I mean, C'mon dude ... Ya couldn't be painting yourself as more of a blind faith "All inner" here, could ya?

And I'm absolutely happy to admit that, yes ... I'm a newbie to this particular thread ... Haven't been kickin' it here as it seems you have -- came in just a couple days ago reading here and there, and interjecting when compelled. Other than your lil' blurb on page 30 or so mentioning Silverlakes, that's all I saw regarding that event. That being said however ... A couple of my players did happen to attend the Thanksgiving Showcase there last Nov and, while I'm sure it was going on somewhere (maybe in some auxiliary division on some field off in the corner that some Texan (I am from CA by the way) wouldn't know about), I saw or heard of exactly zero GDA vs ECNL comp going on ... sooo ... anyway ...

Again, I have to say -- very "Californian" of ya. Regardless of any lil' ole event that happens out in your neck o' the woods in some irrelevant (to this point) match or or two, it lends exactly squat to your cute little argument when it comes to the grand scheme here bub (it is adorable though :cool:) --

BTW davin ... I have three kids ... and only one of em participates in the GDA. Ya care to take a stab at where the others play there junior?

Guess I'll see ya out there ; )
LOL. I don't understand Texan, but I'm imagining the English translation is something like, "I don't really have an argument to make, but I'll say some irrelevant stuff to the California guy's argument and be a smartass with some cute Texas colloquial-speak to pretend like I'm winning." :)
 
LOL. I don't understand Texan, but I'm imagining the English translation is something like, "I don't really have an argument to make, but I'll say some irrelevant stuff to the California guy's argument and be a smartass with some cute Texas colloquial-speak to pretend like I'm winning." :)

Ouch! Rough response ^ to a buncha truth ...

And, I think I can speak for all of the smart people here when I say that, we feel for ya big guy.

But keep on keepin' on davi, and again ... I guess I'll see ya out there --
 
Ouch! Rough response ^ to a buncha truth ...

And, I think I can speak for all of the smart people here when I say that, we feel for ya big guy.

But keep on keepin' on davi, and again ... I guess I'll see ya out there --
Not sure who the "we" are, and why anybody would need to feel for me. Life's good. And yes, I will keep on keepin' on.(sh!t, i'm beginning to sound like a cute little Texan). As the kids say, "Bye, boy.":)
 
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