DA and ECNL

Given that ECNL's treatment of San Diego county clubs over the years demonstrates either incompetence or corruption, non of this all that surprising. It is however extremely unfair to all the hard working players and their families. Note that DA/GDA seems to be no better.

No other club in San Diego county deserved ECNL when it was formed based upon results on the girls side. Look I live in San Diego and my daughter played for the Strikers until her senior year. Unfortunately up until the creation of ECNL nobody in San Diego other than Surf had much of a reputation to attract the best players and that is just a fact. My daughter’s roommate left Carlsbad Elite her junior year to go to Surf so that she could get more consistent competition. Unfortunately there are only enough elite kids to form half of a top team in San Diego in any particular age group and that is the big limitation.
 
No other club in San Diego county deserved ECNL when it was formed based upon results on the girls side. Look I live in San Diego and my daughter played for the Strikers until her senior year. Unfortunately up until the creation of ECNL nobody in San Diego other than Surf had much of a reputation to attract the best players and that is just a fact. My daughter’s roommate left Carlsbad Elite her junior year to go to Surf so that she could get more consistent competition. Unfortunately there are only enough elite kids to form half of a top team in San Diego in any particular age group and that is the big limitation.

Wait.... All those kids in Elite CNL are not Elite :)
 
I apologize if this was covered in an earlier post but does anyone know how many dual member (ECNL/DA) clubs are left?
Hmmmm, well, at least one that I know of in SW conf being SoCal Blues. Maybe a couple Texas clubs? Midwest? Anyone....anyone.....have a little insight here?
 
No other club in San Diego county deserved ECNL when it was formed based upon results on the girls side. Look I live in San Diego and my daughter played for the Strikers until her senior year. Unfortunately up until the creation of ECNL nobody in San Diego other than Surf had much of a reputation to attract the best players and that is just a fact. My daughter’s roommate left Carlsbad Elite her junior year to go to Surf so that she could get more consistent competition. Unfortunately there are only enough elite kids to form half of a top team in San Diego in any particular age group and that is the big limitation.
I wasn't talking about when ECNL was formed.
 
Surf Cup uses the GotSoccer software. If a team's manager hasn't gotten around to updating its GotSoccer profile yet, that's how it is going to show up in the tournament schedule. Looks like the other Surf teams haven't updated their GotSoccer profiles either. Perhaps they don't know what to change it to yet.

2004 ECNL: https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=1002341
Other teams: https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/club.aspx?ClubID=8766View attachment 2924
The name of the team is irrelevant. Doesn’t the team manager fill this information in? If so, the managers also being in the dark would obviously still be using the ECNL name in their team
profiles. And honestly until they prinit new cards with the new players, the managers I knew did not update the gotsoccer profiles.
 
Hmmmm, well, at least one that I know of in SW conf being SoCal Blues. Maybe a couple Texas clubs? Midwest? Anyone....anyone.....have a little insight here?
I believe it is 6 or 7. I don't remember the exact number and don't have time to research it right now but was told the # is less than 10.
 
No other club in San Diego county deserved ECNL when it was formed based upon results on the girls side. Look I live in San Diego and my daughter played for the Strikers until her senior year. Unfortunately up until the creation of ECNL nobody in San Diego other than Surf had much of a reputation to attract the best players and that is just a fact. My daughter’s roommate left Carlsbad Elite her junior year to go to Surf so that she could get more consistent competition. Unfortunately there are only enough elite kids to form half of a top team in San Diego in any particular age group and that is the big limitation.
So much for development.
 
I apologize if this was covered in an earlier post but does anyone know how many dual member (ECNL/DA) clubs are left?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but by my count it is down to 7 clubs (with So Cal Blues being the only remaining dual club out of the 4 we used to have in Southern California):

Current Officially Dual Clubs (2018-19 Change)
Concorde Fire (All-in ECNL)
Crossfire Premier
Dallas Texans (DA Only? - not on ECNL membership chart)
Eclipse Select Soccer Club (All-in ECNL)
FC Dallas
FC Stars (All-in ECNL)
LAFC Slammers (All-in ECNL)
Michigan Hawks (All-in ECNL)
NTH Tophat
Real Colorado

San Diego Surf (DA Only? - not on ECNL membership chart)
Sky Blue - PDA/PDA (All-in ECNL)
So Cal Blues Soccer Club
Solar Soccer Club

West Coast Futbol Club (DA Only)

Current Arguably Dual Clubs (2018-19 Change)
Fury NY/Albertson (DA Only?- Albertson's on the "all in ECNL" chart but not on ECNL membership chart)
NYCFC/World Class
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but by my count it is down to 7 clubs (with So Cal Blues being the only remaining dual club out of the 4 we used to have in Southern California):

Current Officially Dual Clubs (2018-19 Change)
Concorde Fire (All-in ECNL)
Crossfire Premier
Dallas Texans (DA Only? - not on ECNL membership chart)
Eclipse Select Soccer Club (All-in ECNL)
FC Dallas
FC Stars (All-in ECNL)
LAFC Slammers (All-in ECNL)
Michigan Hawks (All-in ECNL)
NTH Tophat
Real Colorado

San Diego Surf (DA Only? - not on ECNL membership chart)
Sky Blue - PDA/PDA (All-in ECNL)
So Cal Blues Soccer Club
Solar Soccer Club

West Coast Futbol Club (DA Only)

Current Arguably Dual Clubs (2018-19 Change)
Fury NY/Albertson (DA Only?- Albertson's on the "all in ECNL" chart but not on ECNL membership chart)
NYCFC/World Class

Arguably Thorns/Force too. https://www.deanzaforce.org/thorns

Do you know how many of the clubs from ECNL in 2016/2017 are still in ECNL?
 
Dual DA/ECNL Clubs were given an "all-in ECNL" option from ECNL this off-season. If they went "all-in" they were given the option of having two ECNL teams (to help the transition of moving their DA players to ECNL). Imagine the pissed off Slammers families, if Slammers went back to ECNL and had only one team. Many of the current players on their ECNL/DA teams would be cut from their now only one ECNL team. So ECNL gave these dual clubs an easy transition. This is why Slammers has two teams. I do not know if they will keep it permanently or just until these age groups age out.

If these dual DA/ECNL clubs did not meet a very high competitive bar, they were told by ECNL that you are "all-in ECNL" or you are out. West Coast (OC Surf) was one such club that did not meet that criteria. So they chose DA (a choice they probably regret since so many top clubs -Slammers, Michigan Hawks, Elipse, PDA, etc - all publicly dropped DA after OC Surf chose DA). Slammers obviously met the competitive standard but still chose to go "all-in ECNL". Blues met the competitive standard too. So they can remain a dual club.

It appears to me (but I do not know for a fact), that Surf was given the take "all-in ECNL" or you are out ultimatum. They were probably campaigning to stay in both, but ECNL is firm on their competitive standards. Surf probably lost their argument to be an exception, and is now caught holding the bag with their families.
 
That is kind of funny when you consider some of the clubs ECNL added out of desperation this past year.
Gotta have teams to fill the schedule and the $$$$ that follows. GDA is doing the same to replace the clubs returning 'all in' to ECNL. It's seemingly cyclical.
 
If i were a local club like Slammers i would be more concerned with what the teams i play in local league on a weekly basis did not what michagan pda and others outside the west coast did. For example in 05s Slammers competition has been teams that are "all in" DA and Blues A team which is in DA. I guess Heat will give them a game but no competition otherwise in league. I imagine that teams top players will either play up or jump ship.

But this decision was probably based on money anyways
 
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