D1 college soccer under threat

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MakeAPlay said:
Once the shoe drops and the Power 5 football conferences cancel or postpone their seasons it's going to end sports for the year. Sports can't safely occur without a bubble until their is a vaccine. Human brains don't mature until they are 25 and you can bet that young people are going to make horrible mistakes that lead to infection. You can't even get mature adults to put their masks over their nose. No way can you get young adults and children to consistenly comply. Unfortunately since this isn't China people are going to do stupid things because they know that they won't get arrested for it. Unless they are a POC.

Good luck everyone. Please wear a mask and do it correctly. Your nose is connected to your lungs...
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Yeah... those poor POC and their house parties and strip clubs. So sad.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
It’s official. JMU suspended fall sports. The team was told after practice this morning. I commend them for trying to have a season but too much of a battle trying to put a schedule together. Camp broke today so she will be moving into her apartment later today. Once school starts in two weeks they will hold daily practice. Now its a waiting game to see if the NCAA will try to hold D1 sports in the spring or at least allow an expanded Spring Season over the normal few games allowed.
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Sorry to hear that @Simisoccerfan! I hope your daughter will continue to have a great first year college experience. Good Luck!!
 
SD_Soccer said:
For my daughter (D3), they are playing a limited spring season (9 games and conference tourney) and retaining a year of eligibility. I guess they could not play more than 10 games (league tourney counts as 1 no matter how many games they play) to retain the year. Not sure how many players will take the extra year?

Agree with some of the sentiments. There are a lot of questions for everyone— current players, verbal commits, not yet committed, etc. Until we know, we don’t know...
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Sorry to hear about your daughter experience @ SD_Soccer. I hope things work out with you and your family.
 
full90 said:
No. Like not true at all. Half the w soccer conferences don’t even have football so losing fall football money isn’t a thing. The majority of the rest don’t make big money on football so there’s not as much to lose. Plus they won’t be spending much fall money on travel, food, game day staff, marketing etc etc. For the vast majority of schools no football doesn’t mean much financially. The big hit comes from no students on campus and that impacts athletic funding provided by the school. But that’s TBA.

for a few of the Big Boys, yes, no football means massive bleeding. But they also have a ton of things to cut that will go way before scholarships.

your panic post is just that: panic. Exactly no one knows how this will shake out and trickle down to sports like w soccer. No need to drum up fear and pearl clutching before there’s any basis to do so.
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full90 said:
No. Like not true at all. Half the w soccer conferences don’t even have football so losing fall football money isn’t a thing. The majority of the rest don’t make big money on football so there’s not as much to lose. Plus they won’t be spending much fall money on travel, food, game day staff, marketing etc etc. For the vast majority of schools no football doesn’t mean much financially. The big hit comes from no students on campus and that impacts athletic funding provided by the school. But that’s TBA.

for a few of the Big Boys, yes, no football means massive bleeding. But they also have a ton of things to cut that will go way before scholarships.

your panic post is just that: panic. Exactly no one knows how this will shake out and trickle down to sports like w soccer. No need to drum up fear and pearl clutching before there’s any basis to do so.
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How do universities balance the budget with lost income in tuition and housing? raise tuition?
 
dk_b said:
The full impact across the NCAA will take a bit of time but the P5 conferences do hold a lot of sway. If there is a spring season that counts as a year of eligibility (unlike most spring seasons), I think the impact will be relatively small in terms of budgets, verbal offers, etc. But I'd expect the mid-November NLI date to get punted to the old early Feb date so that the full extent of 20-21 is known. If spring does not count as a year of eligibility, I think verbals will be revisited as each program (whether or not P5, whether or not a school has football) figures out how many seniors would come back for a 5th year, whether those seniors have guaranteed $$$, whether the NCAA increases the # of scholarships/team, whether a specific program has the $$$ if the NCAA does allow more scholarships (just match up the stars and the dollars . . . if you have a Sr on a full ride and a HS Sr expecting a full ride, well the $$$ needs to come from others or the $$$ needs to drop for that star HS Sr). Programs can't go into binding agreements (NLI) while the structure of spring is TBD and can't know just how many spots are available in 2021 and beyond until the NCAA provides guidance on a number of variables.

I don't think anyone is stoking fear, just spit-balling on the nuance related to this decision (and I do agree - despite credible reporting, we need to see the specific conference(s) making announcements before speculating too much)
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Full rides are for four years, they don't all automatically go to a five year scholarship. Eligibility is still four years, unused year(s) can be used in graduate schools or for a fifth year. I am sure NCAA will address all these issues at some point.
 
Copa9 said:
Full rides are for four years, they don't all automatically go to a five year scholarship. Eligibility is still four years, unused year(s) can be used in graduate schools or for a fifth year. I am sure NCAA will address all these issues at some point.
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Some conferences and schools promise 4 years. For most, it is one year at a time with various escape clauses (behavior, grades, health, etc)
 
Copa9 said:
Full rides are for four years, they don't all automatically go to a five year scholarship. Eligibility is still four years, unused year(s) can be used in graduate schools or for a fifth year. I am sure NCAA will address all these issues at some point.
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The playout in the current situation remains to be seen and, as you note, I am sure the NCAA will address these issues. I'm confident that, like for spring sports last academic year, students would not lose a year of eligibility if there is no soccer in 20-21 (meaning that it won't even count for the 4 years in 5 w/which they need to use up eligibility). What remains to be seen is if the NCAA or the specific conferences require honoring the award for that 5th year (that is among the list of demands that the P5 football players put forward). If that is the case, the awards would no longer be 4 year awards (yes, I know how they are structured) and would, theoretically or mandatorily be 5 year awards. And whether or not the prior award (the 5th year Sr's 4th year level) is necessary, I'd expect that the NCAA would permit schools paying that 5th year (so whether it is theoretical, optional or mandatory . . . that needs to shake out). So if we are matching up the $$$ that was expected to come off the books v the $$$ that come on with the incoming class, I doubt that the high-level recruit will be impacted if the 5th year player remains but it is hard to imagine that there'd be zero impact on the recruiting class as a whole. I expect that there will be a period of compression - of rosters, of dollars - before things routine to "normal".
 
Copa9 said:
Full rides are for four years, they don't all automatically go to a five year scholarship. Eligibility is still four years, unused year(s) can be used in graduate schools or for a fifth year. I am sure NCAA will address all these issues at some point.
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This is soccer. Just about no one has a full ride. My guess is that if your an impact player the coach will find a way to extend the scholarship to the 5th tear.
 
The Outlaw said:
It was definitely necessary. The rest of us are tired of all the whining.
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Whining about equality. You sure are no Cassius Marcellus Clay. You are more like a David Duke. Don't worry about me chief. I'm doing fine. I know that you hate reality but it's staring you in the face. You can continue with you white greivance though. Thankfully it's still a free country although you probably hold the 2nd amendment higher in your mind than the 1st, 13th, 14th, 15th 16th and the 19th. I don't although I have more than one gun..... POC's are armed now FYI....
 
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