D1 college soccer under threat

Also if there's no college soccer this year, it will have a ripple affect. At least 50% less for 2022 and 2023 in scholarships.
 
gotothebushes said:
Also if there's no college soccer this year, it will have a ripple affect. At least 50% less for 2022 and 2023 in scholarships.
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I don't know the exact domino effect but understand there will be one. Can you elaborate on why 50% to 2022 and 2023?
 
Zen said:
I don't know the exact domino effect but understand there will be one. Can you elaborate on why 50% to 2022 and 2023?
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If there's no soccer season, this mean those incoming freshmen players might redshirt there first year creating a domino effect on the amount players need to bring in for 2022 and 2023 class. Just thinking outside the box on how's things are going at this point.
 
gotothebushes said:
Also if there's no college soccer this year, it will have a ripple affect. At least 50% less for 2022 and 2023 in scholarships.
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Are you assuming that a current senior (this up coming year) wants to stick around for a few months of soccer and miss graduating with friends who are moving on , a new job or graduate school? Doubtful.
 
Copa9 said:
Are you assuming that a current senior (this up coming year) wants to stick around for a few months of soccer and miss graduating with friends who are moving on , a new job or graduate school? Doubtful.
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Eh, not doubtful at all. My DD (senior) and a couple others plan on playing their fourth year of soccer while taking grad school prerequisites. It's already in the works if there is no season past Spring. We had a team zoom call about just this topic on Monday. Seniors are all invited back if it comes to that. Sounds like the 2022 and 2023's are going to get shorted if anything.
 
With the increased number of COVID cases it will be impossible For players to get a COVID test/results within the 72 hours recommended by the NCAA. Season over.

If there’s a slim chance we can take the field it would not surprise me if all freshman redshirt.

What about kids opting out or even asking for a medical redshirt?
 
Copa9 said:
Are you assuming that a current senior (this up coming year) wants to stick around for a few months of soccer and miss graduating with friends who are moving on , a new job or graduate school? Doubtful.
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Yep that's exactly what I'm saying. Some seniors will say on another season.Coaches are already inviting seniors back. This will kill the incoming classes.
 
gotothebushes said:
Yep that's exactly what I'm saying. Some seniors will say on another season.Coaches are already inviting seniors back. This will kill the incoming classes.
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Another thought here. Students this year at some institutions are being allowed to defer a year. How many are committed soccer players and doing so? What’s their future I mpact? Also, if there is a back up of players could this improve other programs? Meaning for example players committed to a program de commit prior to attending and change schools.
 
warrior49 said:
Eh, not doubtful at all. My DD (senior) and a couple others plan on playing their fourth year of soccer while taking grad school prerequisites. It's already in the works if there is no season past Spring. We had a team zoom call about just this topic on Monday. Seniors are all invited back if it comes to that. Sounds like the 2022 and 2023's are going to get shorted if anything.
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Is she a senior now or will be in the fall?
 
Copa9 said:
What about tuition? Any on academic scholarships or are they on full athletic scholarships since they are seniors. D1 or D2 schools?
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My DD is Pac-12, and she is a senior in the Fall. She's got a fairly decent athletic scholarship. Some do, some don't. But they were told by the coaching staff verbatim: "The seniors are welcome back if we don't have a season, and scholarships will be honored." That's the most recent info we received this week, but like everything that can change.
 
warrior49 said:
My DD is Pac-12, and she is a senior in the Fall. She's got a fairly decent athletic scholarship. Some do, some don't. But they were told by the coaching staff verbatim: "The seniors are welcome back if we don't have a season, and scholarships will be honored." That's the most recent info we received this week, but like everything that can change.
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Will the scholarship be a five year scholarship or will they take an academic/soccer gap year? Who pays the tuition for their pre graduate school classes? If the university doesn't have to pay out for the gap year, will the university redistribute the funds to pay for other programs? It will be interesting. Football revenue is a whole other matter if the school uses that revenue to fund soccer. Some don't have football. One of my daughters is a senior, but not an athlete (gave it up) the upcoming year and will have distance learning. She debated to take a gap year or continue and graduate. She has decided to continue, finish up while living off campus with friends and get on with work or grad school. This is certainly a challenging time for these young adults.
 
Copa9 said:
Will the scholarship be a five year scholarship or will they take an academic/soccer gap year? Who pays the tuition for their pre graduate school classes? If the university doesn't have to pay out for the gap year, will the university redistribute the funds to pay for other programs? It will be interesting. Football revenue is a whole other matter if the school uses that revenue to fund soccer. Some don't have football. One of my daughters is a senior, but not an athlete (gave it up) the upcoming year and will have distance learning. She debated to take a gap year or continue and graduate. She has decided to continue, finish up while living off campus with friends and get on with work or grad school. This is certainly a challenging time for these young adults.
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Definitely uncharted territory for sure. The whole thing sucks and changes by the day. My DD's school has a successful football program, and what I've noticed over the years is the soccer team gets lots of perks from that. But if there is no football then what? I guess we will see.
 
I think that is a legitimate option. Obviously the opportunities are going to be fewer as teams may have fuller rosters. But a good player could get opportunities to do that.
 
warrior49 said:
Eh, not doubtful at all. My DD (senior) and a couple others plan on playing their fourth year of soccer while taking grad school prerequisites. It's already in the works if there is no season past Spring. We had a team zoom call about just this topic on Monday. Seniors are all invited back if it comes to that. Sounds like the 2022 and 2023's are going to get shorted if anything.
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Thanks for the update. I believe things change day to day and there's no real plan just yet. Tough times to be in right now!
 
warrior49 said:
Eh, not doubtful at all. My DD (senior) and a couple others plan on playing their fourth year of soccer while taking grad school prerequisites. It's already in the works if there is no season past Spring. We had a team zoom call about just this topic on Monday. Seniors are all invited back if it comes to that. Sounds like the 2022 and 2023's are going to get shorted if anything.
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Which would mean what for the 2021s?
 
LASTMAN14 said:
Another thought here. Students this year at some institutions are being allowed to defer a year. How many are committed soccer players and doing so? What’s their future I mpact? Also, if there is a back up of players could this improve other programs? Meaning for example players committed to a program de commit prior to attending and change schools.
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Good questions, and the answer is "We'll find out." No way to really predict all the ramifications of losing the 2020-21 sports seasons. But I would guess that there will be kids who decide to drop soccer entirely, some opt for upgrading their school/soccer program, maybe slightly fewer opportunities for new incoming freshmen for the next season as the number of 5th year seniors/grad student players increases.

I predict that the much bigger impact of this pandemic is not going to come from the loss of the next season, but from the budget crisis that is going to sweep the entire college landscape starting now and over the next several years. Schools formerly in decent financial condition are going to tighten their belts, schools just getting by are going to have to slash massive amounts of money to stay afloat, and those that were already having trouble are going to shut down entirely. I can guarantee that is going to hit soccer programs (men's and women's) across the country, and there will be FAR fewer opportunities for scholarships and roster spots in the coming years. Already, my player's college coaches are talking about losing support staff and resources as part of budget cuts, and her school's women's soccer program is the premier sport at her particular school (DII).

I really, really hope I'm wrong.
 
Mystery Train said:
Good questions, and the answer is "We'll find out." No way to really predict all the ramifications of losing the 2020-21 sports seasons. But I would guess that there will be kids who decide to drop soccer entirely, some opt for upgrading their school/soccer program, maybe slightly fewer opportunities for new incoming freshmen for the next season as the number of 5th year seniors/grad student players increases.

I predict that the much bigger impact of this pandemic is not going to come from the loss of the next season, but from the budget crisis that is going to sweep the entire college landscape starting now and over the next several years. Schools formerly in decent financial condition are going to tighten their belts, schools just getting by are going to have to slash massive amounts of money to stay afloat, and those that were already having trouble are going to shut down entirely. I can guarantee that is going to hit soccer programs (men's and women's) across the country, and there will be FAR fewer opportunities for scholarships and roster spots in the coming years. Already, my player's college coaches are talking about losing support staff and resources as part of budget cuts, and her school's women's soccer program is the premier sport at her particular school (DII).

I really, really hope I'm wrong.
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Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!
 
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