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DM: There WILL be a mandatory roster cap announced in the next 3-4 weeks for all the sports across NCAA Division 1.

There will be maximum allowed numbers per all sports however each institution can mandate a lower number if they see fit.

The unfortunate part of this, will be, less participation opportunities in Power 4 schools but it should mean women’s soccer will be deeper across the country in all divisions talent wise.

Women’s soccer national mandate will be between 27-29 but some institutions will be as low as 26.

A new and difficult era to adapt to.

It all has to do with judges decision on revenue sharing. Lots more information to come.

-NCAA D1 Power 4 Head Coach

#CSTruth

Not sure about the impacts of this. Thoughts?
 
The transfer portal will rise in numbers in the near term as soon as this new rule is implemented. Girls not playing or not liking their situation will move to get to where they want to be. You won’t see recruiting classes of 16 girls going to places like TCU and a few others. After a few years, the transfer numbers will drop as the schools adjust to the 26-29 player range. Just an opinion…
 
LouSag said:
The transfer portal will rise in numbers in the near term as soon as this new rule is implemented. Girls not playing or not liking their situation will move to get to where they want to be. You won’t see recruiting classes of 16 girls going to places like TCU and a few others. After a few years, the transfer numbers will drop as the schools adjust to the 26-29 player range. Just an opinion…
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I think transfer portal numbers will rise at first then over time if there's limited rosters the number of portal players will be less.

Next Women's college soccer needs to get rid of unlimited subs. If this happens women's college soccer might continue to be a viable feeder for pro teams.
 
Surf Zombie said:
DM: There WILL be a mandatory roster cap announced in the next 3-4 weeks for all the sports across NCAA Division 1.

There will be maximum allowed numbers per all sports however each institution can mandate a lower number if they see fit.

The unfortunate part of this, will be, less participation opportunities in Power 4 schools but it should mean women’s soccer will be deeper across the country in all divisions talent wise.

Women’s soccer national mandate will be between 27-29 but some institutions will be as low as 26.

A new and difficult era to adapt to.

It all has to do with judges decision on revenue sharing. Lots more information to come.

-NCAA D1 Power 4 Head Coach

#CSTruth

Not sure about the impacts of this. Thoughts?
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The transition is probably worse than the actual final state.

I hope they phase it in to minimize the impact on any one recruiting class.
 
Surf Zombie said:
DM: There WILL be a mandatory roster cap announced in the next 3-4 weeks for all the sports across NCAA Division 1.

There will be maximum allowed numbers per all sports however each institution can mandate a lower number if they see fit.

The unfortunate part of this, will be, less participation opportunities in Power 4 schools but it should mean women’s soccer will be deeper across the country in all divisions talent wise.

Women’s soccer national mandate will be between 27-29 but some institutions will be as low as 26.

A new and difficult era to adapt to.

It all has to do with judges decision on revenue sharing. Lots more information to come.

-NCAA D1 Power 4 Head Coach

#CSTruth

Not sure about the impacts of this. Thoughts?
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Not a great deal of confidence in the NCAA. Between the portal as it is, a 5th year (covid year) and now roster cap's; sounds like it could be another poor decision. However, there are programs that have rosters in the mid 30's and I have seen some with over 40 (insane). If the new mandates is to keep rosters at 30 or less for soccer, that's okay with me. But, NIL money issues sit with football and basketball. Especially as they are cause for this transition of college sports becoming a lower tier of professional sports. And how does this impact schools who do not have football?
 
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Looks like we are closing on what the NCAA will propose.

sports.yahoo.com

Sources: NCAA to increase scholarships for sports, with football getting roster limit of 105 players

As part of the new revenue-sharing model, by-sport scholarship restrictions will be eliminated, and schools are permitted to offer scholarships to the entirety of their rosters.
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It's weird how they call out certain sports. Obviously football and baseball and basketball. But why only note Volleyball and Softball for women's non revenue. Maybe those are the 2 sports close to generating revenue?

But in the end between Title IX and the official rules the NCAA will define roster limits for every sport for compliance and implementation reasons. Only then will we truly know the answer.

Next it will all be about how many fully funded scholarships each conferences or school can fully fund of that roster limit.
 
Wallfly04 said:
Looks like we are closing on what the NCAA will propose.

sports.yahoo.com

Sources: NCAA to increase scholarships for sports, with football getting roster limit of 105 players

As part of the new revenue-sharing model, by-sport scholarship restrictions will be eliminated, and schools are permitted to offer scholarships to the entirety of their rosters.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com

It's weird how they call out certain sports. Obviously football and baseball and basketball. But why only note Volleyball and Softball for women's non revenue. Maybe those are the 2 sports close to generating revenue?

But in the end between Title IX and the official rules the NCAA will define roster limits for every sport for compliance and implementation reasons. Only then will we truly know the answer.

Next it will all be about how many fully funded scholarships each conferences or school can fully fund of that roster limit.
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The reason for roster limits is to make the amount of money each college gets (to distribute to their players) easy to define / known.
 

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Breaking News: NCAA D1 College Soccer

DM: Roster cap is officially 28. Scholarship cap number is the same as the roster. (28 scholarships)

Officially released tomorrow.

-D1 Power 4 Head Coach#CSTruth

Not every college or conference will be able to afford this. D1 Power 4 officially became for the ELITE athlete. With 28 full ride scholarships, the gap between the have and have not schools just got wider. 2025’s and 2026’s keep an eye on the roster sizes and if schools have to start making cuts this year. The December transfer portal is going to be MASSIVE! Is it time for the D1 Power 4 schools to separate from the NCAA? More news to come.
 
If a school opts in then that school will have to trim their roster. Only big Dawgs have the money to opt in. P4 or at minimum.

You wouldn't be mandated to fully fund up to the limit of 28. But you would have to comply with Title 9. So if you're changing men's scholarship amount you're likely going to have to change the women's sports to match that. You're also going to have to keep up with the Joneses. If you're in the same conference that offers fully funded 28 and you offer less than that you're going to be at a competitive disadvantage. Top recruits are going to gravitate towards the fully funded teams.

A natural tiering and reshuffling would occur down the soccer food chain.
 
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If a school opts in then that school will have to trim their roster. Only big Dawgs have the money to opt in. P4 or at minimum.

You wouldn't be mandated to fully fund up to the limit of 28. But you would have to comply with Title 9. So if you're changing men's scholarship amount you're likely going to have to change the women's sports to match that. You're also going to have to keep up with the Joneses. If you're in the same conference that offers fully funded 28 and you offer less than that you're going to be at a competitive disadvantage. Top recruits are going to gravitate towards the fully funded teams.

A natural tiering and reshuffling would occur down the soccer food chain.
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You have to keep in mind that what NCAA has put together is a way to accommodate the House lawsuit that essentially forces colleges to share the revenue with players that student athletes generate.

If colleges opt in NCAA will pool up all revenue generated by student athletes and give players a percentage. This is why NCAA is mandating roster sizes. If all participants have the same size roster it's much easier to distribute pooled $$$.

I don't think what the NCAA is putting together will last if a college players union is implemented. It will end up as more of a speedbump in the inevitably of paying players directly. Which btw is already occurring via NIL.

It's going to be interesting to see which colleges opt in and which don't. Colleges are pretty used to not paying players. Some will need to be put through lawsuits multiple times before they make changes.
 
Wallfly04 said:
If a school opts in then that school will have to trim their roster. Only big Dawgs have the money to opt in. P4 or at minimum.

You wouldn't be mandated to fully fund up to the limit of 28. But you would have to comply with Title 9. So if you're changing men's scholarship amount you're likely going to have to change the women's sports to match that. You're also going to have to keep up with the Joneses. If you're in the same conference that offers fully funded 28 and you offer less than that you're going to be at a competitive disadvantage. Top recruits are going to gravitate towards the fully funded teams.

A natural tiering and reshuffling would occur down the soccer food chain.
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Football is going up from 85 to 105, so that adds 20 right there for the women's side. You might actually see soccer discontinued on the men's side for some colleges (USC Trojans don't have a men's team). Will we see upsets in the future if a UCLA can have 28 scholarships while Irvine stays at 14?
 
Important: The roster limit is both (1) max amount of players a sport can have in a season and (2) max number of scholarships it can distribute. School are not required to use all allotted scholarships. Walk-ons may still exist as well as players with a partial scholarships.
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So anyone under the delusion that going forward college coaches wouldn't just be taking the top players they can find.

Recruiting for college teams will become exactly like Talent IDs. Showcases won't be looked at anymore. At least not for D1 schools.

Ironically this mirrors Academy style player promotion. The only thing missing is free soccer for players and transfer fees from colleges to youth clubs.
 
There will be no D1 Men's soccer left in the next few years. Clubs know it now. they just don't want to tell you. my dd's roommate was talking to her former club coach from an east coast powerhouse and he told her that he would be shocked if men's D1 lasted another 3 years. the effects are going to be real on both sides.
 
pitchplease said:
There will be no D1 Men's soccer left in the next few years. Clubs know it now. they just don't want to tell you. my dd's roommate was talking to her former club coach from an east coast powerhouse and he told her that he would be shocked if men's D1 lasted another 3 years. the effects are going to be real on both sides.
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Outside of P4, what is really changing for D1 mens soccer, in California for example? A few less roster spots, but what is the cost impact that would cause them to fold?
 
I still can't reconcile the limits to the total cost. If schools have to share revenue and they have 20M to share that's not enough to max out those scholarships to equal the roster limits. If you add up all those limits it's like 2x+ what's current.

Some schools spend 16-20M right now! So how are they going to fund 2x more in scholarships and pay football players and basketball players. I mean I guess they can still give FB and BB folks NIL money but then that's not equitable to football who generates all the revenue that is available to share.

So something has to change but I can't see what... Well maybe they will cut half the sports soccer included...
 
Yak said:
Outside of P4, what is really changing for D1 mens soccer, in California for example? A few less roster spots, but what is the cost impact that would cause them to fold?
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The key here is what a P4 increases first. My guess is football and basketball since they are the money makers. That would be 22 more scholarships for men. Title IX means they need to add another 22 scholarships to women, subtract 22 from other men's sports, or a combination of both. Getting rid of the men's soccer team completely saves 10 spots. Add 2 to womens Softball, Track, Soccer, Tennis, Volleyball and golf and and you are done.
 
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