CRL Academy

[Stryprod]

How else do you suspect the big clubs (ie. rhymes w/Spammers) get away with it?

Someone seems salty lol

It's a rule, so no club is "getting away with it". Not only that, what club doesn't want their full/best "A" team playing? Sometimes people get injured or go on vacation, so nearly every club benefits from the rule especially since the majority of clubs now have more than one same age group team or probably can pull up. This provides a great opportunity for other players to showcase, and if anything is better for the opposing team given team "A" is likely at a disadvantage.

 

[timbuck]

Or some clubs form 2 teams with 16 players on 1 team and 12 on another. They try to fill the 12 player team with a few more bodies, but they can’t. So instead of telling the parents, “sorry we won’t have enough for 2 teams, here’s a refund.” They play some girls on both teams. And usually the better players are the ones playing on both teams.

 

[Stryprod]

Or some clubs form 2 teams with 16 players on 1 team and 12 on another. They try to fill the 12 player team with a few more bodies, but they can’t. So instead of telling the parents, “sorry we won’t have enough for 2 teams, here’s a refund.” They play some girls on both teams. And usually the better players are the ones playing on both teams.

Excellent point, and valid and impactful especially for "B" or lower teams receiving "A" players in tournaments for example, but not so much for the "A" teams in CRL.

Every club has their best players and their best team. You pull up the best you can from "B" or lower when needed and cannot guest, but there is a reason, usually beyond pure financials, the pulled up player is not on the higher team. Having an extra sub(s) is beneficial, but doubtful the impact is as detrimental to the opposition compared to when it goes the other way.

Even if we found some altruistic club that kept 1 full team instead of 2 thin teams, they'd keep the 12 best players and take 4 of the best players of the disbanded team to field 16 best players. Net outcome of competitiveness is the same.

 

[Dummy]

Cal South is celver getting people to pay top dollar for flight 2 by calling it "academy"

Are the girls more sensitive to names? the need for these special 2nd level closed leagues with these catch phase names like "development, Academy and the like. Boys not so much as there doesn't seem to be a need for that.

I agree with your point regarding Cal South’s mislabeling. I disagree with any suggestion that the girls are “more sensitive.” Cal South and the clubs have simply figured out that the parents in the girls soccer market are willing to pay more for this garbage.

 

[Stryprod]

I agree with your point regarding Cal South’s mislabeling. I disagree with any suggestion that the girls are “more sensitive.” Cal South and the clubs have simply figured out that the parents in the girls soccer market are willing to pay more for this garbage.

Looks like the fee for entry is $995 for a team based on the link below.

Looking at the average games played by the new academy (6.5 games), the cost comes in at $153 per game which is lower per game than the standard ~$695 SoCal tournament at 3-4 games per game cost (~$198). Add in ref fees and you're about on par.

Not arguing for or against it, and yes it is more cash in CalSouth's pocket, but from the consumer side its costs is on par with what the market accepts in SoCal. If it is in place of a late summer tournament, e.g., players cup, the cost is pretty much a wash. It'll be interesting to see where it goes or if it grows.

https://www.californiaregionalleague.com/en/faqs/

 

[jpeter]

Looks like the fee for entry is $995 for a team based on the link below.

Looking at the average games played by the new academy (6.5 games), the cost comes in at $153 per game which is lower per game than the standard ~$695 SoCal tournament at 3-4 games per game cost (~$198). Add in ref fees and you're about on par.

Not arguing for or against it, and yes it is more cash in CalSouth's pocket, but from the consumer side its costs is on par with what the market accepts in SoCal. If it is in place of a late summer tournament, e.g., players cup, the cost is pretty much a wash. It'll be interesting to see where it goes or if it grows.

https://www.californiaregionalleague.com/en/faqs/

Not really it's a 1k league that's double the price of other leagues with half the AMT of games. Let's not forget your team has to pay/rent fields on top of that so add another 100 or so per game.

$150per game by your math +$ 88 ref fees per game. Is $240 per game + field rentals where you can play in CSL and get 14 games for less than half that per game or SCDSL and get a dozen games. This is a premium priced leagues any way you slice it for basically flight 2 competition that play each other already in the fall.

 

[Stryprod]

Not really it's a 1k league that's double the price of other leagues with half the AMT of games. Let's not forget your team has to pay/rent fields on top of that so add another 100 or so per game.

$150per game by your math +$ 88 ref fees per game. Is $240 per game + field rentals where you can play in CSL and get 14 games for less than half that per game or SCDSL and get a dozen games. This is a premium priced leagues any way you slice it for basically flight 2 competition that play each other already in the fall.

You selected the older's highest ref fees at $88 whereas $50 is the lowest. An older's tournament fee likely would be higher than the $695 used, so likely still a wash with ref fees included.

Thanks for pointing out the field rental fees, I was unaware this was not included and that certainly makes the cost less palatable. Do you know if the ~$100 per field is a per team fee or is it split amongst both teams? If 50/50 split and using the younger's fee schedule, we are at ~$250, if not split we are at ~$300 which is overpriced for the competition.

 

[Soccerbabe3]

Anyone have the updated scores to the CRL Academy games from over the weekend?

https://2019crlleagueseason.sportsa...9FAC52-8643-45C8-8A2A-AA11904DF59C&show=girls

 

[SoccerSway]

Someone seems salty lol

It's a rule, so no club is "getting away with it". Not only that, what club doesn't want their full/best "A" team playing? Sometimes people get injured or go on vacation, so nearly every club benefits from the rule especially since the majority of clubs now have more than one same age group team or probably can pull up. This provides a great opportunity for other players to showcase, and if anything is better for the opposing team given team "A" is likely at a disadvantage.

Well, unfortunately for the smaller clubs, "the rule" only benefits the Big Clubs; the ones who can put together an "A" team at the drop off a dime. Interesting to see how these clubs/teams can afford to "showcase" players they had no part in developing.

 

[SoccerSway]

Or some clubs form 2 teams with 16 players on 1 team and 12 on another. They try to fill the 12 player team with a few more bodies, but they can’t. So instead of telling the parents, “sorry we won’t have enough for 2 teams, here’s a refund.” They play some girls on both teams. And usually the better players are the ones playing on both teams.

There's a sucker born every minute...

 

[Stryprod]

Well, unfortunately for the smaller clubs, "the rule" only benefits the Big Clubs; the ones who can put together an "A" team at the drop off a dime. Interesting to see how these clubs/teams can afford to "showcase" players they had no part in developing.

So, let's assume the rule is abolished. A smaller club 08 team has a roster of 10 and 2 kids cannot play due to whatever reason. Do you want the team to play at a minus 1 disadvantage and no subs instead of pulling up 1 or 2 from the small clubs 09 team? Do you forfeit?

How about another scenario. Your small club team is going up against the Blues. Unfortunately for the Blues, 6 kids from their roster of 12 got sick from eating some dodgy lasagna the night before at the team party. Blues can now only field 8, 2 of which feel awful. If you somehow beat them, do you walk away bragging about that? Should they have forfeited?

The rule is not perfect, but appears to provide an outlet for continuation of play. Seems a net positive for someone who keeps opining about development.