College Roster Caps

Carlsbad7 said:
Under the current system teams are limited to 14 scholorships. If there's 38 players and you figure 5 are full scholorship, 6 are half scholorship, and everyone else 27 players are quarter or no scholorship I guess the numbers work.

I'm not sure if I'd want to send my kid to a meat grinder situation like that.

The college game needs some serious cleaning up.
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80% if the rosters have 30 players or less, with the new rules dropping it to 28 max. A number of programs aren't fully funded so less than 14 scholarships. A number of programs give 14 half scholarships, then use NIL money to get 28 players to full scholarships, as well as everything in between. Even a sport like basketball, where almost every D1 college offers 15 full rides you see players chosing schools for the NIL money and a great chance to play pro.
 
Scrag75 said:
Its just their MO on how they operate. They bring in about 10 recruits and purge a good portion of their roster every year. They are not interested in developing just bring in talent and see who floats to the top. Unfortunately they are not the only program that does this....Look at Mich St., Kentucky, and Arkansas. This new roster cap is going to destroy this method and they will now have to rely on development and coaching. We'll see how well they do moving forward.
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If you've seen the transfer portal list from last season, I don't know why any team would bring in more than 3-4 unicorns out of high school every year. If developing players is too much of a chore, there's your solution. Adjusting to the college game? No problem. Adjusting to being away from mom and dad? No problem. Redshirts? No problem.
 
Does anyone know the penalty for going over the roster limit?
If a player is injured and has long term recovery, can a team keep them off the 28 player roster, but still at the school?
Does a redshirt player count towards the roster limit during their redshirt year?
Players on a mission, do they count towards the 28? I know they get exempt from the 4 years play in 5 year period.
 
Couple of new bits of info relevant to the NIL settlement that's driving the proposed roster caps.

1) The proposed $2.6 billion settlement allocates 90% of the money to past men's football and basketball players, 5% to past women's basketball players and then 5% to all other past male and femal ecollege athletes.

2) On a go forward basis, if approved, starting for the 2025-26 season, there will be $21 million to all 364 D1 schools for athletic scholarship/nil money.

3) Most schools, when asked, say they will allocate the incoming $21m/year according the same 90/5/5 formula.

4) There were about 190,000 D1 college athletes in 2024-25, which included 28,000 football players, about 5,000 men's basketball players, and 5,000 women's basketball players

5) Doing the math, each football and male basketball player will receive an average $600 per player per year (allowing for the roster caps for those sports) and female basketball players will receive an average of $225 per player per year (allowing for roster caps). The other 152,000 athletes in other sports would receive an average of $7 per player per year (allowing for roster caps).

6) In exchange for this windfall, colleges would have to implement the roster caps mentioned above that, depending on the sport, would result in, for example, cutting 15% of the existing roster from the average men's d1 college soccer team

7) The Ivy league schools - as a conference - are opting out of the settlement.

8) The new presidential administration has officially rescinded Title IX guidance.

9) Scuttlebutt/Word on the street is that, because the settlement is still obviously and fatally flawed - never mind the Title IX issues - that coaches across sports across the country are already planning to disregard the roster cap.

10) Stay tuned...
 
Kante said:
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Kante said:
Couple of new bits of info relevant to the NIL settlement that's driving the proposed roster caps.

1) The proposed $2.6 billion settlement allocates 90% of the money to past men's football and basketball players, 5% to past women's basketball players and then 5% to all other past male and female college athletes.

2) On a go forward basis, if approved, starting for the 2025-26 season, there will be $21 million to all 364 D1 schools for athletic scholarship/nil money.

3) Most schools, when asked, say they will allocate the incoming $21m/year according the same 90/5/5 formula.

4) On average, a D1 will have about 450 D1 college athletes in 2024-25, which includes, on average, 95 football players, about 13 men's basketball players, and 13 women's basketball players.

5) Doing the math, each football and male basketball player will receive an average $175,000 per player per year (allowing for the roster caps for those sports) and female basketball players will receive an average of $81,000 per player per year (allowing for roster caps). The other 330 athletes that the average D1 college has would receive an average of $3,200 per player per year (allowing for roster caps).

6) In exchange for this windfall, colleges would have to implement the roster caps referenced across all sports, even for the sports where the athletes would be receiving about $300 per month (i.e grocery money), and, in return, would accept roster caps, which would result in, for example, cutting 15% of the existing roster from the average men's d1 college soccer team.

7) Current rules allow schools to grant 9.9 full scholarships for men's soccer, which, for a UC totals about $143,500 vs only receiving $84,000 under the House vs NCAA settlement plus, of course, the roster caps that would come with the accepting the settlment. Private schools - with higher tuitions - would be even further penalized and, for example, the Ivy League schools - as a conference - are opting out of the settlement.

8) Significant Title IX issues would also exist with the settlement, except that the new presidential administration has officially rescinded existing Title IX guidance

9) Scuttlebutt/Word on the street is that, because the settlement is still obviously and fatally flawed - never mind the Title IX issues - that coaches across sports across the country are already planning to disregard the roster cap.

10) Stay tuned...
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Kante said:
Couple of new bits of info relevant to the NIL settlement that's driving the proposed roster caps.

1) The proposed $2.6 billion settlement allocates 90% of the money to past men's football and basketball players, 5% to past women's basketball players and then 5% to all other past male and femal ecollege athletes.

2) On a go forward basis, if approved, starting for the 2025-26 season, there will be $21 million to all 364 D1 schools for athletic scholarship/nil money.

3) Most schools, when asked, say they will allocate the incoming $21m/year according the same 90/5/5 formula.

4) There were about 190,000 D1 college athletes in 2024-25, which included 28,000 football players, about 5,000 men's basketball players, and 5,000 women's basketball players

5) Doing the math, each football and male basketball player will receive an average $600 per player per year (allowing for the roster caps for those sports) and female basketball players will receive an average of $225 per player per year (allowing for roster caps). The other 152,000 athletes in other sports would receive an average of $7 per player per year (allowing for roster caps).

6) In exchange for this windfall, colleges would have to implement the roster caps mentioned above that, depending on the sport, would result in, for example, cutting 15% of the existing roster from the average men's d1 college soccer team

7) The Ivy league schools - as a conference - are opting out of the settlement.

8) The new presidential administration has officially rescinded Title IX guidance.

9) Scuttlebutt/Word on the street is that, because the settlement is still obviously and fatally flawed - never mind the Title IX issues - that coaches across sports across the country are already planning to disregard the roster cap.

10) Stay tuned...
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As usual the only ones getting rich are the attorneys- both Plaintiff's counsel off the settlement and Defense counsel off the millions in billable hours....💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
 
CoachReed68 said:
Per this article, "Currently, most Power 5 Conference women’s soccer programs average around 32-35 players on their rosters."

It is preposterous to horde that may players on a roster!

I'm glad the rosters are being cut.
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Agree, either some of the players are kickbacks to the coach (singer, varsity blues) or the coach is planning to run 10+ off the team each year.

College needs to drop the unlimited subs. It doesn't allow more players to play. It makes coaches look for individual minded track stars. Not team focused tactical players. Which BTW is how pro teams play.

It's so odd to me that college soccer would have rules that are so drastically different than pro soccer. Colleges are supposed to be training players for the next level. If you have different rules than the pros you're developing different types of players. Seems pretty fundamental.
 
Judge Wilken delays final approval of the $2.8B House v. NCAA settlement, citing concerns over roster caps, NIL limits, and future athlete protections.

Among her most pressing concerns is the proposed imposition of roster limits across all sports. Football rosters would be capped at 105 players, down from an average of 128. Baseball, swimming, and other Olympic sports would see similar cuts. Thousands of walk-ons and partial-scholarship athletes could be left without a team. Wilken floated a “grandfather clause” to protect current players, calling it a low-cost fix with a high impact.

“It’s not that many people. It’s not that much money,” she noted. “It would save a lot of goodwill and angst and unhappiness from a lot of students and their parents.”
 
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The big problem is most schools have already made cuts to their rosters. Players are looking for new schools, about to go into the portal, had the heartache of losing friends from the team, and affected the team culture with these cuts.
 
socalkdg said:
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The big problem is most schools have already made cuts to their rosters. Players are looking for new schools, about to go into the portal, had the heartache of losing friends from the team, and affected the team culture with these cuts.
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