I call BS. You don't have a clue who followed any of the CSC coaches and thus have no idea whether it worked out. Having known plenty of CSC families going back to the Howie days, I don't know one family that regreted following their coach whether it was to Freeflow, Rebels, Surf, Sharks etc. Not that CSC wasn't good, they just could not hang on to some great coaches. And if I am not mistaken there were some Toumi groups on this site that followed him to Sharks and could not say enough positive things about him.