Coach Movement and 2018 Assignments

avh said:
I checked back on my notes from when I went through this with "San Diego Joe" in 2015 (SDJ insisted that I do a lot of research). My notes show Rene joined CSC around 2010. I know he was at CSC in 2011, when my youngest moved from rec to competitive. And I seem to recall him there in 2010. That's a pretty good run as DOC with no changes.

As for Michael Nmounde, his bio on the Riptide page (http://riptidesoccer.org/Page.asp?n=87462&org=RIPTIDESOCCER, if you want to check the facts) shows he was CSC ADOC 2003-2004, CSC DOC 2004-2006, CSC Boys Director 2006-2008, and CSC DOC 2008-2010. Again, a pretty good run there. And no mention of Liverpool/Spirit/Freeflow anywhere. You may want to check you facts on that.


When you say "parents defining seasons", if you mean going to the USDA website and looking up how USDA defines the season, then I'm guilty. For your reference "The season begins in September and concludes with Championships in July." (http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq, if you want to check the facts). So December would make that ... well ... mid season.

I also find it interesting that in an earlier post you were pointing out how bad CSC was because they "fired" a coach at the end of his contract and left a team without a coach for National Cup ... yet it's perfectly okay for a coach to walk out on his teams mid season. Kind of a double standard, wouldn't you say? In your words, "get a clue"!
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avh said:
I checked back on my notes from when I went through this with "San Diego Joe" in 2015 (SDJ insisted that I do a lot of research). My notes show Rene joined CSC around 2010. I know he was at CSC in 2011, when my youngest moved from rec to competitive. And I seem to recall him there in 2010. That's a pretty good run as DOC with no changes.

As for Michael Nmounde, his bio on the Riptide page (http://riptidesoccer.org/Page.asp?n=87462&org=RIPTIDESOCCER, if you want to check the facts) shows he was CSC ADOC 2003-2004, CSC DOC 2004-2006, CSC Boys Director 2006-2008, and CSC DOC 2008-2010. Again, a pretty good run there. And no mention of Liverpool/Spirit/Freeflow anywhere. You may want to check you facts on that.


When you say "parents defining seasons", if you mean going to the USDA website and looking up how USDA defines the season, then I'm guilty. For your reference "The season begins in September and concludes with Championships in July." (http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq, if you want to check the facts). So December would make that ... well ... mid season.

I also find it interesting that in an earlier post you were pointing out how bad CSC was because they "fired" a coach at the end of his contract and left a team without a coach for National Cup ... yet it's perfectly okay for a coach to walk out on his teams mid season. Kind of a double standard, wouldn't you say? In your words, "get a clue"!
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And CSC has not done NOTHING since RM's TAKEOVER in 2010. Why still there?
 
My player was LUCKY enough to have Gabe for those 1 hour u8 practices. It was all fast paced FOOT SKILL AND ATTACKING soccer. The average number of touches by individual players at his practices were 500 plus. I haven't seen anything like it since. He had this same group of girls and team for the next 3 to 4 years and incorporated 1 hour practices....as necessary. Also, from that "1-hour practice" team, Gabe will have (5) division 1 players entering college this year including UCLA's #1 recruit for 2019.


avh said:
Apparently your daughter never played for Gabe at U8. He only held one hour practices for his U8 team. It really is the whole email ... less the managers name and the distribution list. I'll be more than happy to show you the email ... along with the others I pulled up from the manager showing one hour practices. Just let me know where you want to meet and I'll show you all of them. It can be at MBHS at a practice ... if that is where your daughter practices.

I do think it's funny that you, the person who throws out crap and can't substantiate it, is demanding I produce the original email. I think I've provided you with everywhere I got my facts from. But it's out there, I'll produce it for you. Just tell me where you want to meet.


I didn't see a real need to go back any further. I showed you that Michael Nmounde was ADOC from 2003 to 2004, and DOC or Boys Director from 2004 to 2010 (November 2010 by your recollection). And Rene has been DOC from 2011 until present. Now there may have been an interim DOC between November 2010 and when Rene took the position in 2011. But really, how much further do you need to go back? We only got here based on your snide little comment "How many DOCs did Crusades go thru back then? Was it 4 in 5 years?" I think I addressed your original question. But I do realize that your attack on CSC was just you trying to deflect attention from the fact that Toumi has been at four clubs in five years. And it was time to stop blaming the clubs and take some ownership. I get it. It appears to be your defense mechanism.


I understand. That was pretty much the same reason I could never get "San Diego Joe" to put me in touch with "his guy" so I could corroborate his data. I think all "JoeBieber" wanted to know was what club. You see, when you start making claims as statements of fact and can't substantiate them, you start looking ... less than credible.

And, No, I've never seen a coaches contract. I've never been that interested. I'm mainly interested in getting the best coaching and the best experience for my daughters for what I pay. Having a coach bail mid season does not meet my expectation.


I never did. I only jumped in when you started making false claims about CSC. Again, if you can't backup your accusations with facts, don't make them.

I really don't follow Rene either. I never made any claims about him. Just pointed out to you the time frame that I can substantiate that he has been at CSC. I will say that every time I had any interface with Rene when we were at CSC, he was upfront, honest, and sincere. And he was very knowledgeable about soccer in general. This was my personal experience from even before SDJ implored me to confront him. But then again, I never had an ax to grind with the club ... so I probably wasn't looking hard enough.

At any rate, I look forward to meeting you and showing you the original email. Just let me know where and we can work out a time.
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boots said:
My player was LUCKY enough to have Gabe for those 1 hour u8 practices. It was all fast paced FOOT SKILL AND ATTACKING soccer. The average number of touches by individual players at his practices were 500 plus. I haven't seen anything like it since. He had this same group of girls and team for the next 3 to 4 years and incorporated 1 hour practices....as necessary. Also, from that "1-hour practice" team, Gabe will have (5) division 1 players entering college this year including UCLA's #1 recruit for 2019.
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1 hour practice sessions are more then appropriate and sufficient for a U8!!!
 
Mcderha said:
Lots good& very respected Surf Coaches leaving (heard 10+? ) .. very interesting times
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Looks like you were right. I count 8 new coaches on the surf tryouts website. 6 on the boys side and 2 on the girls side. And 2 current coaches were moved from the girls side to the boys side that I know of. I don't know who left or why and frankly IDGAF but there are a bunch of new coaches at Surf.
 
whatever said:
Looks like you were right. I count 8 new coaches on the surf tryouts website. 6 on the boys side and 2 on the girls side. And 2 current coaches were moved from the girls side to the boys side that I know of. I don't know who left or why and frankly IDGAF but there are a bunch of new coaches at Surf.
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Can you post the link to the part of the site with the new coaches list? Or post the list? Can’t seem to find it?? Thanks
 
www.surfsoccer.com

go to "join" tab. put in a birthdate and gender and it shows the coaches assigned to the age groups.
current coaches listed under "coaches" tab.
2003 and older age groups not posted yet so not all coaching assignments known yet.
To be fair, I guess it's possible that they added 8 new coaches and that no one left (although Lauren Lowery is now on Encinitas Express website)
 
OBkicks said:
Can you post the link to the part of the site with the new coaches list? Or post the list? Can’t seem to find it?? Thanks
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BOYS SIDE
Will Whiddon
Arturo Perez
Nelson Pizarro
James Marwood
Robert Tackaberry (also coaching a girls team)
Aaron Brooks

GIRLS SIDE
Kris Dolinsky
Marcus Dugger
 
I heard there is another new north San Diego county club with some sort of surf affiliation - the parent said it's the former matrix club? anyone know if there is any truth in this rumor?
 
whatever said:
I heard there is another new north San Diego county club with some sort of surf affiliation - the parent said it's the former matrix club? anyone know if there is any truth in this rumor?
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North county FC - not sure about the Surf affiliation but could very well be the case (based on Coaches with Surf coaching experience). I believe San Elijo Matrix will no longer exists.


https://www.northcountyfc.org/
 
sdklutz said:
North county FC - not sure about the Surf affiliation but could very well be the case (based on Coaches with Surf coaching experience). I believe San Elijo Matrix will no longer exists.


https://www.northcountyfc.org/
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It's just a San Elijo Matrix re-brand, still under the auspices of AYSO. McKell (SMHS girls coach) took over as DOC, and many girls on the HS team feed from San Elijo. Tried to merge with Revolution, but it didn't happen. No affiliation with Surf.
 
Now that Surf tryouts are over, what are people being told about coaching assignments? Is the coach that is going to be coaching next seasons team the one making the call?
 
People need to be careful.
DA doesn't have open "tryouts" and season doesn't end until July.
ECNL doesn't end until May.
I don't know why I am hearing about 04 telling people they made a DA or ECNL team.
Also the good old "you can practice with the DA team (lie) or the ECNL team( gasp)"
No it's called the c team
 
Monkey said:
Now that Surf tryouts are over, what are people being told about coaching assignments? Is the coach that is going to be coaching next seasons team the one making the call?
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What about girls that were at tryout hoping to make the DA team? Can they be offered a spot this week?
 
If someone is on a DA team or ECNL team they would not have been at that tryout at all.
The only ones at a tryout would be girls on non affiliated clubs and teams.
Hypothetically a person not on an affiliated team could be added to a DA roster but I believe that conversation would have occurred on day one because it would have been very obvious to that Coach.
As far as ECNL I find it interesting that people are claiming to have been offered spots. I find it interesting because I know of many DA girls looking to go down to an ECNL team and are ethical and adhering to behavior standards and waiting until the season is over. I also assume here could be some ECNL girls who would like to maybe join the DA so they would have that chance. Unless you are a star I can't see an outsider breaking that bubble until the club makes it own internal shuffling which it can't do until July.
There is a lot of talk about ethics and transparency on this board. It would be nice if clubs who had early tryouts let families know what they were trying out for.
If I am wrong please let me know- specifically how can a club offer someone an ECNL spot when their season isn't over and they have a roster of 18? Does this seem kosher ?
 
Girls from other DA and ECNL teams were at Surf tryouts. A DA parent told me that they could tryout for the ECNL team without breaking DA rules. They said they could practice with both DA and ECNL teams until DA tryouts but at least would be offered a spot on the ECNL team come summer.

I would appreciate knowing the rules and ramifications because we would like to tryout in a year from now but if timing is going to be an issue that could affect which type of team to join this year.
 
Monkey said:
Girls from other DA and ECNL teams were at Surf tryouts. A DA parent told me that they could tryout for the ECNL team without breaking DA rules. They said they could practice with both DA and ECNL teams until DA tryouts but at least would be offered a spot on the ECNL team come summer.

I would appreciate knowing the rules and ramifications because we would like to tryout in a year from now but if timing is going to be an issue that could affect which type of team to join this year.
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How can surf offer spots right now to this many girls on an ecnl team with a full roster? I hope all the parents in this situation are smart enough to have a Plan B.
 
chargerfan said:
How can surf offer spots right now to this many girls on an ecnl team with a full roster? I hope all the parents in this situation are smart enough to have a Plan B.
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Almost every ECNL team has a roster of 20+ players. So if this offer is being made to a few, no big deal. But what are they telling the current ECNL players?
 
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