Club soccer stuff that drive you nuts...

Patandpats said:
What drives me nuts is having to fly to Dallas for MLS playoffs and there still not being a link for a schedule to a game that is supposed to be played sometime on Friday. :)
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Somewhere in the Dallas metro area named Toyota or MoneyGram unless they use Richland.

Just pick one of the other teams it's Single elimination so who knows about the other days, showcase for some after?
 
lafalafa said:
Somewhere in the Dallas metro area named Toyota or MoneyGram unless they use Richland.

Just pick one of the other teams it's Single elimination so who knows about the other days, showcase for some after?
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In general my u16 has had an amazing experience in this league, but their website and general sharing of information is a joke. But we did get a webinar to learn how to increase our social media presence at the tournament.
 
Patandpats said:
In general my u16 has had an amazing experience in this league, but their website and general sharing of information is a joke. But we did get a webinar to learn how to increase our social media presence at the tournament.
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Yeah my son's flight leaves tomorrow and they don't have the schedule either. Going to be hot that's for sure so packing the frog tog, electrolyte supplements, and other hot weather items.

Good luck to your squad and player, at u19 this is the last go around for him and mates before they go off in separate directions to colleges.
 
lafalafa said:
Yeah my son's flight leaves tomorrow and they don't have the schedule either. Going to be hot that's for sure so packing the frog tog, electrolyte supplements, and other hot weather items.

Good luck to your squad and player, at u19 this is the last go around for him and mates before they go off in separate directions to colleges.
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They haven't posted a schedule on the website, but Tuesday they distributed the schedules to the coaches for the younger age groups that start playoff games on Friday. Not sure if that's the case for showcase games or older age groups.
 
Dargle said:
They haven't posted a schedule on the website, but Tuesday they distributed the schedules to the coaches for the younger age groups that start playoff games on Friday. Not sure if that's the case for showcase games or older age groups.
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We know who we are playing, but not the field location. Only 48 hours from kickoff so what do I expect???
 
Dargle said:
We have field location and number.
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Congrats! Really shocking. Almost like someone is playing a game to see how close they can get to kickoff without publishing anything. Sure would like to know where/when our second game might be so I can make plans with relatives
 
Patandpats said:
Congrats! Really shocking. Almost like someone is playing a game to see how close they can get to kickoff without publishing anything. Sure would like to know where/when our second game might be so I can make plans with relatives
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Are you in playoffs or showcase? With playoffs, we were informed when and where we play first game and second game if we win (unless there were changes to the schedule since then), but I have no idea where and when we would play if we lost. I believe you then drop into games against the loser of another playoff game (rather than playing in the showcase with teams that didn’t qualify for playoffs), but that’s just based on the webinar info from Sunday.

It seems that the Modular 11 site is down, so perhaps that is the cause of the delay.
 
Dargle said:
Are you in playoffs or showcase? With playoffs, we were informed when and where we play first game and second game if we win (unless there were changes to the schedule since then), but I have no idea where and when we would play if we lost. I believe you then drop into games against the loser of another playoff game (rather than playing in the showcase with teams that didn’t qualify for playoffs), but that’s just based on the webinar info from Sunday.

It seems that the Modular 11 site is down, so perhaps that is the cause of the delay.
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Playoffs. It's starting to post now at least, but sure made reaching out to college coaches a challenge. Also no idea what will happen if they lose the first game.
 
Dargle said:
Are you in playoffs or showcase? With playoffs, we were informed when and where we play first game and second game if we win (unless there were changes to the schedule since then), but I have no idea where and when we would play if we lost. I believe you then drop into games against the loser of another playoff game (rather than playing in the showcase with teams that didn’t qualify for playoffs), but that’s just based on the webinar info from Sunday.

It seems that the Modular 11 site is down, so perhaps that is the cause of the delay.
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Yes, would be nice to know what happens if you lose. Also, glad I'm not u16 Albion/Nomads. They are playing each other first playoff game. How dumb is that? Even if it's a playoff, just move one of them up or down a line. SoCal teams shouldn't play each other until the quarters at earliest.
 
It's a small thing compared to issues affecting the physical/mental health of the kids....but.....

a peev is when the ordering of games in group play at tourneys ends up being such that in the final game two teams can play a phone it in draw so they both advance. Strategic perhaps, but not sporting.
 
When a club sends the same age group teams to a small tournament and everyone ends up being the same bracket and they make up majority of the bracket and the lower level team gets slaughtered and the higher up team gets praised over social media for being the Champions.
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:
It's a small thing compared to issues affecting the physical/mental health of the kids....but.....

a peev is when the ordering of games in group play at tourneys ends up being such that in the final game two teams can play a phone it in draw so they both advance. Strategic perhaps, but not sporting.
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I personally witnessed a case where the young women on the field decided the last game of group play was not worth getting injured for (there was an injury in the first few minutes of the game). After the restart they just passed the ball around and ended in a draw. It made national news thanks to some dimwad sports writer blowing it up. No mention of the close to 100 degree temps/100 perscent humidity. No mention of the artificially compressed tournament schedule that these players had endured for years. No mention of the fact these young women would be reporting to college in a few weeks. There are times when strategic and player welfare is much more important than sporting.
 
outside! said:
I personally witnessed a case where the young women on the field decided the last game of group play was not worth getting injured for (there was an injury in the first few minutes of the game). After the restart they just passed the ball around and ended in a draw. It made national news thanks to some dimwad sports writer blowing it up. No mention of the close to 100 degree temps/100 perscent humidity. No mention of the artificially compressed tournament schedule that these players had endured for years. No mention of the fact these young women would be reporting to college in a few weeks. There are times when strategic and player welfare is much more important than sporting.
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This has happened at every level. I remember the Lightning/LAGSD/CitySC match that made it to ESPN because the teams spent 90 minutes passing it around to ensure a tie and ensure that both teams moved on. Same thing happened this last Surf Cup with 11 year old boys between TFA and Dallas Texans.

You can always come up with a justification for cheating. Always. The other team is cheating. The games were scheduled too close together. It's hot.

The problem is, every team when they register for the tournament is committing to play by the rules of the tournament, and to give their best to compete. To take advantage of a schedule that allows you to profit from prior match results from your group to give two teams a day off is wrong. It's cheating. The other teams didn't get a rest day on their last match.

The simple fact is that the teams that cheated wanted to win, and didn't think that the rules should apply to them. If there are times when strategic and player welfare is more important than upholding the concepts of sportsmanship and competition, then that team shouldn't have entered that tournament.
 
outside! said:
I personally witnessed a case where the young women on the field decided the last game of group play was not worth getting injured for (there was an injury in the first few minutes of the game). After the restart they just passed the ball around and ended in a draw. It made national news thanks to some dimwad sports writer blowing it up. No mention of the close to 100 degree temps/100 perscent humidity. No mention of the artificially compressed tournament schedule that these players had endured for years. No mention of the fact these young women would be reporting to college in a few weeks. There are times when strategic and player welfare is much more important than sporting.
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GLangevinito said:
This has happened at every level. I remember the Lightning/LAGSD/CitySC match that made it to ESPN because the teams spent 90 minutes passing it around to ensure a tie and ensure that both teams moved on. Same thing happened this last Surf Cup with 11 year old boys between TFA and Dallas Texans.

You can always come up with a justification for cheating. Always. The other team is cheating. The games were scheduled too close together. It's hot.

The problem is, every team when they register for the tournament is committing to play by the rules of the tournament, and to give their best to compete. To take advantage of a schedule that allows you to profit from prior match results from your group to give two teams a day off is wrong. It's cheating. The other teams didn't get a rest day on their last match.

The simple fact is that the teams that cheated wanted to win, and didn't think that the rules should apply to them. If there are times when strategic and player welfare is more important than upholding the concepts of sportsmanship and competition, then that team shouldn't have entered that tournament.
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Those two situations are not the same.
 
GLangevinito said:
This has happened at every level. I remember the Lightning/LAGSD/CitySC match that made it to ESPN because the teams spent 90 minutes passing it around to ensure a tie and ensure that both teams moved on. Same thing happened this last Surf Cup with 11 year old boys between TFA and Dallas Texans.

You can always come up with a justification for cheating. Always. The other team is cheating. The games were scheduled too close together. It's hot.

The problem is, every team when they register for the tournament is committing to play by the rules of the tournament, and to give their best to compete. To take advantage of a schedule that allows you to profit from prior match results from your group to give two teams a day off is wrong. It's cheating. The other teams didn't get a rest day on their last match.

The simple fact is that the teams that cheated wanted to win, and didn't think that the rules should apply to them. If there are times when strategic and player welfare is more important than upholding the concepts of sportsmanship and competition, then that team shouldn't have entered that tournament.
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I was at the LAGSD game since I was at that tournament with a different team. LAGSD would have moved on even if they lost that game. The other team would have moved on unless they lost by more than 6 or 7 goals (I can't remember). They did not spend 90 minutes passing it around, they spent roughly 80 minutes. After one of the players went off with a knee injury, both teams realized that the game just did not matter. They were in that position becuase they had domitated their previous two games. This was a decision made on the field by the players. Most of the players were weeks away from reporting to college. These players had jumped through all of the hoops set up by this crazy system. The adults blew this way out of proportion and you are perpetuating it. ESPN should not have publicized this. The only reason they even had footage is because parent's of the team that had lost a previous game 6 or 7 to 0 were hoping LAGSD would stomp the other team worse so thier DD's could move on sent it to them. Those same parent raised quite a stink on the sideline and threatened the players. You weren't there and you definitely were not one of the ones hauling their butts up and down the field and enduring the threats from very poorly behaved adults. Keep you pontificating to yourself.
 
outside! said:
I was at the LAGSD game since I was at that tournament with a different team. LAGSD would have moved on even if they lost that game. The other team would have moved on unless they lost by more than 6 or 7 goals (I can't remember). They did not spend 90 minutes passing it around, they spent roughly 80 minutes. After one of the players went off with a knee injury, both teams realized that the game just did not matter. They were in that position becuase they had domitated their previous two games. This was a decision made on the field by the players. Most of the players were weeks away from reporting to college. These players had jumped through all of the hoops set up by this crazy system. The adults blew this way out of proportion and you are perpetuating it. ESPN should not have publicized this. The only reason they even had footage is because parent's of the team that had lost a previous game 6 or 7 to 0 were hoping LAGSD would stomp the other team worse so thier DD's could move on sent it to them. Those same parent raised quite a stink on the sideline and threatened the players. You weren't there and you definitely were not one of the ones hauling their butts up and down the field and enduring the threats from very poorly behaved adults. Keep you pontificating to yourself.
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This past Thursday during, the final game of the group stages of the Girls U18 US Youth Soccer National Championships in Frisco, Texas, it appears that two teams, Carlsbad Elite (CA-S) and Ambassadors FC (OH-N), may have colluded to finish the match in the draw so that both teams can advance. Top Drawer Soccer’s Will Parchman reported on the game and supplied video showing both teams making zero effort to score, or even play the game. The video shows defenders simply passing the ball back and forth for several minutes with no opponents within 20 yards. The defenders then played the ball to the other end of the field where their teammates openly move out of the ball’s path until the opposing defenders collect it and begin their passing game between them with no pressure from their opponent. It was clear that neither team made an effort to attempt to win game, being as they needed only a draw to advance to Saturday’s semi-finals.

Ambassadors’ coach Caleb Fortune, in a statement, says the lack luster performance was due to the extreme heat in the Texas sun, which exceeded 100 degrees most of the week. However, from the video it can be clearly be seen that, regardless of the heat, there was a concerted effort by both teams to not attempt to actually play the game in a competitive manner. US Youth Soccer seems to have immediately picked up on the severity of the issue and actually made the game footage of the match unavailable online, the only match not available. The National Championship Series Committee found the teams were “disrespectful to the game, the competition and US Youth Soccer,” and unspecified disciplinary action and monetary fines were issued to the teams. However, both teams were allowed to advance to the semi-finals, with Carlsbad advancing to the National Final on Sunday.

This behavior is representative of the problems plaguing youth sports today, and not just soccer. The ‘win at all costs’ culture has lost the value that sports used to play in the development of children. Competition and the drive to win are key components to sports and the life lessons taught to players. However, the competitive drive needs to be one of fair play and respect for the game. Playing the game with no intention of winning is an insult to the sport as well as the other teams in the competition.
 
GLangevinito said:
This past Thursday during, the final game of the group stages of the Girls U18 US Youth Soccer National Championships in Frisco, Texas, it appears that two teams, Carlsbad Elite (CA-S) and Ambassadors FC (OH-N), may have colluded to finish the match in the draw so that both teams can advance. Top Drawer Soccer’s Will Parchman reported on the game and supplied video showing both teams making zero effort to score, or even play the game. The video shows defenders simply passing the ball back and forth for several minutes with no opponents within 20 yards. The defenders then played the ball to the other end of the field where their teammates openly move out of the ball’s path until the opposing defenders collect it and begin their passing game between them with no pressure from their opponent. It was clear that neither team made an effort to attempt to win game, being as they needed only a draw to advance to Saturday’s semi-finals.

Ambassadors’ coach Caleb Fortune, in a statement, says the lack luster performance was due to the extreme heat in the Texas sun, which exceeded 100 degrees most of the week. However, from the video it can be clearly be seen that, regardless of the heat, there was a concerted effort by both teams to not attempt to actually play the game in a competitive manner. US Youth Soccer seems to have immediately picked up on the severity of the issue and actually made the game footage of the match unavailable online, the only match not available. The National Championship Series Committee found the teams were “disrespectful to the game, the competition and US Youth Soccer,” and unspecified disciplinary action and monetary fines were issued to the teams. However, both teams were allowed to advance to the semi-finals, with Carlsbad advancing to the National Final on Sunday.

This behavior is representative of the problems plaguing youth sports today, and not just soccer. The ‘win at all costs’ culture has lost the value that sports used to play in the development of children. Competition and the drive to win are key components to sports and the life lessons taught to players. However, the competitive drive needs to be one of fair play and respect for the game. Playing the game with no intention of winning is an insult to the sport as well as the other teams in the competition.
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Lots of excuses from the Carlsbad parents. It's VERY unlikely that the "players decided on their own" to pass the ball around and not play defense for 80 minutes. Players are there to play, no matter if they are hot, or tired, or a bench player. The video showed 64 consecutive passes completed by one side with no pressure before kicking it to the other team.

No matter what the competitive situation was, both coaches made the decision to not play and rob another team of an opportunity to advance, no matter how slim the chances were. It's shameful, and I would bet you that 100% of the girls who were on the field that day regret it. I blame the coaches.
 
Parents not knowing the "shoulder to shoulder"rule. It's really annoying.

Yesterday:
Our defender goes shoulder to shoulder against their forward, and steals the ball.
Ignorant parent: "COME ON, REF!!!!!! THAT'S A CARD!!!!! ARRRRHHHH!!!!! BLAHBLAH BLAHBLAH...."

Next play:
Our center mid is carrying the ball. Their center mid comes and kicks him on the ankles. The ref calls a fault right away.
Ignorant parent: "ARE YOU SERIOUS?????? YOU DID SEE THAT ONE?????? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!!!!!"
 
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