Club playing style?

There is nothing wrong if a team chooses to play more direct. Possession style, when not done properly, can be equally ugly. Lots of passing and possession without creating shots in the final 1/3. Unfortunately 2021 FC Barcelona is one of such examples. :mad:
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Agree about FC Barcelona. I was at the FC Barcelona v Deportivo Alaves match six weeks ago and noted 80% possession by Barca with players passing up what looked like excellent opportunities for shots in the final 1/3 in favor of passing off to another player who many times lost the ball.
 
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Agree about FC Barcelona. I was at the FC Barcelona v Deportivo Alaves match six weeks ago and noted 80% possession by Barca with players passing up what looked like excellent opportunities for shots in the final 1/3 in favor of passing off to another player who many times lost the ball.
Talk about a club in disarray. They don’t have the talent up front anymore. No GOAT. And Barca style of play has always been passing the ball too many times—aka tikataka.
 
We had two defenders. One dribbles too much. The coach was always yelling at him to pass up the field. The other defender kicks the ball to the air as soon as he gets the ball almost as if he is afraid to hold on to the ball. Man, if the two would just balance out, we could start play possession. Kids just need time to figure it out.

Hmmm, is your kid on my kid's team??? :p
 
Tikitaka can be beautiful. Counter attack style can also be beautiful. I've always regarded coaches who are able to work with what they've got and win. Zig when others zag and zag when others zig. But pros are only concerned with winning so there is no dilemma there (though I think the best of the best coaches are able to develop players while also winning)...

Harder in youth as the primary goal should be to develop players... but coaches have to win to keep their jobs... and parents demand winning or they'll move their kids... It's a tough business.

In the end, no coach or club knows or cares for your kid more than you. As parents, we will certainly make mistakes but what else can we do but try our best and help our kids have fun but also develop into the best version of themselves...
 
Another tryout season question. Does a DOC typically dictate a certain playing style, direct vs possession? Or is it mostly left up to the coach? Which club is known for possession soccer in the youngers?
My little Messi's club DOC dictates a style of play. Every team plays that formation and style... every player adjusts to the club, not the other way around. It can be a source of tension as players learn to adjust. It also suits as well once the teams begins to click as we often move players up and down across age groups.
 
Talk about a club in disarray. They don’t have the talent up front anymore. No GOAT. And Barca style of play has always been passing the ball too many times—aka tikataka.
So true. I like some passing plays and then go and try and score as many times as possible :)
 
My little Messi's club DOC dictates a style of play. Every team plays that formation and style... every player adjusts to the club, not the other way around. It can be a source of tension as players learn to adjust. It also suits as well once the teams begins to click as we often move players up and down across age groups.

Do they all use the same numbers for corner kick formations?
 
My experience the last 11 years is each coach usually has his own style of play. It's based on the players they have, moo. My dd Surf coach Pauly was all about possession ((it was awesome and we won it all)) unless a big match was on the line like the time we played the top team in the country. We played Deza Earthquakes team and we beat them by doing full court presses at different times throughout the match, to catch them off guard a little. We stayed back all the other times and played tough D. Kind of of like a half court park the bus. We did not try and match their possession for 80 minutes. No way!! If I were to be honest, Deza's two teams were the best at the passing game at the time. Wear you down and make you chase them and then they kill you with speed when the chance comes. They took plenty of shots. Our coaches ability to throw off this great team and coach was perfect and why he's a fantastic coach. It rattled the EQ's and we won 2-0. If we played them again, I'm sure they would have beat us 2-0. My dd also played for the Socal Blues and Coach Bobak. He allowed more freedom of expression and allowed the girls to go battle and let the game come to them. He would facilitate a safe and great environment for the players and I appreciate that. He put the players on the field and the formation and the players did the rest. That team was physical, fast, big and we played direct. Some of the losers we beat all the time called it kickball which was bull shit. It was attack the opponent with no mercy and destroy them with no mercy until 8-0. We won everything that year and gave up zero goals all season. It was a record for the Blues that I believe still stands today. We beat out Bakers for most consecutive shutouts. Not sure if anyone beat that record.
 
To me, the single-most important trait to develop is confidence. And nothing kills confidence more than losing over and over with a coach that keeps telling you that they don't care about winning and they are going to keep doing the same thing over and over regardless of the results.
This is true. Losing every game kills confidence. Losing every game blows up the team. Losing every game turns things ugly as people start looking for scapegoats: the coach, the league, the refs, the goalkeeper, the striker, little Johnny back that is always beaten for a 1v1

The opposite is true though too: an obsession with doing anything you can to win, particularly at the younger ages, leads to a lot of detrimental effects:
-soccer is a game about mistakes. If neither team makes mistakes the score should end 0-0. But mistakes are how kids learn…there’s NO other way. If you don’t make mistakes you don’t learn
-coaches can take short cuts. We’ve all seen it. Asking the gk to punt every ball. Getting the big legged defender to goalkick it up field. Having the really fast striker or winger just outrun the slower defender rather than outplay with passing and dribbling. The short cuts may produce wins. They don’t teach soccer
-it’s easier (if you can do it) to recruit already developed players than to develop your own players. It helps if the players are just taller and closer to the age line
-it’s easier to coach them. It’s easier to run them in practice than to teach the a passing figure.

it’s why soccer is such an unforgiving game…for development it’s ideal to be on a team that’s in the middle of the bracket. Too far gone and things begin to crumble. To high up and that’s wasted development as the team isn’t being challenged

you can have your soccer competitive, developmental or accessible (pick 2).
 
-coaches can take short cuts. We’ve all seen it. Asking the gk to punt every ball. Getting the big legged defender to goalkick it up field. Having the really fast striker or winger just outrun the slower defender rather than outplay with passing and dribbling. The short cuts may produce wins. They don’t teach soccer

What is it then?
 
My kid’s team plays soccer.

Anyone more direct plays kickball. Clearly they don’t know how to connect passes.

Anyone less direct is playing keep-away. Those guys are all afraid of the goal.

Clear?

I have heard this same speech spoken both seriously and sarcastically, so I can't tell which this is.

The worst coach my kids ever had (it's a long story) complained to the opposing coach because the other team beat us with a goal from a toe-poke kick. "When they get older, they will find that doesn't work anymore!"
 
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