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Just perfect: Global warming ‘research’ headline of the week
SCIENCE!
It seems the global warming research vessel S.S. Begging the Question experienced some problems:
A team of scientists had to abandon an expedition through Hudson Bay because of hazardous ice conditions off the coast of Newfoundland caused by climate change.
About 40 scientists from five Canadian universities were scheduled to use the icebreaker CCGS Amundsen for the first leg of a 133-day expedition across the Arctic. It’s part of a $17-million, four-year project led by the University of Manitoba that looks at both the effects of climate change as well as public health in remote communities.
Their trip began May 25 in Quebec City, but due to bad ice conditions off the coast of Newfoundland, the icebreaker was diverted from its course to help ferries and fishing boats navigate the Strait of Belle Isle, said David Barber, a climate change scientist at the University of Manitoba and leader of the Hudson Bay expedition called BaySys.
Thick, dense ice had travelled to the area down from the High Arctic, said Barber, which caused unsuspecting boats to become stuck and even take on water.
Why is there still ice up there, when it’s already all melted as evidenced by Al Gore spotting fish swimming in the streets of Miami? You just know it’s all going to have something to do with Trump pulling the U.S. out of the Paris Agreement.
A perfect example of the deception that comes from the deniers. A quote left out of your link, that changes the whole narrative:
"Barber and his team of 40 scientists from five universities across Canada used their equipment to study the unexpected ice and found that it originated from the high Arctic. The researchers think that climate change has increased the mobility of the Arctic sea ice and that severe conditions like this will become a lot more common."
EvilGoalie 21
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May 2017. NASA Goddard. Northern hemisphere anomaly. Red points since start of thread.
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
Sheriff Joe
DA
You can add on disposal of the hazardous used battery as well.
Wez
DA
It's a fair criticism. The thinking is with increased adaptation and scale, cleaner production will come.
Was that poorly written in English, or just poorly translated from Swedish? Most of it is gibberish.
Bruddah IZ
DA
You read it?
Sheriff Joe
DA
Baby steps.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Gobbly gook
Bruddah IZ
DA
Do we need an article to tell us that production of Tesla cars, like all other cars, requires fossil fuels? It's good for the environment that they are expensive.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Now we know where the kooks around here get their intelligence,
Elizabeth Warren Puts Her Ignorance of Financial Markets on Display
Government oversight officials revealed this week that Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s mud-slinging campaign against victims of the national renewable fuel quota system was groundless, another example of the far-left ideologue’s penchant for stretching the truth.
Warren had tried to launch an “investigation” into CVR Energy executive Carl Icahn after he protested an obscure loophole in the federal Renewable Fuel Standard system that is creating windfall profits for certain large, politically connected corporations and huge expenses for smaller independent firms.
Demonstrating her surprising ignorance of the actual situation, Warren tried to allege that Icahn, whose firm is on the receiving end of outrageous, EPA-assisted price gouging by Walmart and other companies, was rigging the system to his benefit.
However, the effort, likely the outgrowth of her religious devotion to environmentalism, fell to the ground with a resounding thud when the government agency with expertise and oversight on the matter revealed it had dismissed the issue completely.
In a letter to Warren, the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which oversees the EPA-operated market for “Renewable Identification Numbers” (RINs), said it had reviewed the issue and dismissed it.
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Susan Wright
The EPA’s RINs market is beset by problems, just not those that are ideologically convenient for Warren. For example, fraud is rampant, driving up compliance costs for real businesses that are required to purchase the RINs to meet the national biofuels quota.
In the last several years, there have been a series of high-profile RINs frauds detected, but the stories sound like an episode of “America’s Dumbest Criminals,” suggesting there is a much deeper problem and the more clever fraudsters are operating undetected.
For example, a Maryland man in his thirties managed to make $9 million selling RINs from his garage before authorities caught up with him. Notably, the reason he was caught is because his neighbors reported their suspicions about the “baby blue Rolls-Royce, white Maserati, black Bentley and two Ferraris” that he had suddenly accumulated, unusual for the suburban neighborhood where he lived, according to the Washington Post — not because selling tens of millions of fake biofuels credits tripped any alarms at the EPA.
Despite all of the problems with the RINs market, however, political reform has become extremely difficult because the dysfunctional system also created a set of winners who aren’t about to let go of windfall profits they are receiving.
For a reason yet to be adequately explained in public, EPA’s rules award RINs to companies that blend gasoline with renewable fuels as it is being prepared for sale at gas stations.
This activity has zero value as it relates to the goals of the Renewable Fuel Standard. The blending operations do not create renewable fuels, so it is not incentivizing production. The downstream buyers are buying because of regulatory requirements, so it is not incentivizing consumption.
It’s basically like winning the regulatory lottery. You do the same thing you were doing, only now your profits are doubled because your competitors have to buy their legal right to existence from you.
Obviously, someone who has won the lottery does not want to give up their winnings, hence the recent creation of a brand new cottage industry of lobbyists for Walmart and other companies that benefit from this absurd situation.
This is where Icahn enters the situation. Since his company’s largest cost, by far, is paying his competitors for RIN credits (how insane is that?), he has publicly argued the policy should be changed.
In response, Warren began a campaign of claiming Icahn was engaging in cronyism and insider dealing, when in fact the opposite is true. Whether Warren was just too ideologically blinkered to understand the real dynamics or cynically saw Icahn as a necessary sacrifice for a larger goal is unknown.
What is clear is that the junior senator from Massachusetts has a growing problem with the truth. Perhaps we should rely on someone else when it comes to parsing complicated regulatory battles.
Elizabeth Warren Puts Her Ignorance of Financial Markets on Display
Government oversight officials revealed this week that Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s mud-slinging campaign against victims of the national renewable fuel quota system was groundless, another example of the far-left ideologue’s penchant for stretching the truth.
Warren had tried to launch an “investigation” into CVR Energy executive Carl Icahn after he protested an obscure loophole in the federal Renewable Fuel Standard system that is creating windfall profits for certain large, politically connected corporations and huge expenses for smaller independent firms.
Demonstrating her surprising ignorance of the actual situation, Warren tried to allege that Icahn, whose firm is on the receiving end of outrageous, EPA-assisted price gouging by Walmart and other companies, was rigging the system to his benefit.
However, the effort, likely the outgrowth of her religious devotion to environmentalism, fell to the ground with a resounding thud when the government agency with expertise and oversight on the matter revealed it had dismissed the issue completely.
In a letter to Warren, the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which oversees the EPA-operated market for “Renewable Identification Numbers” (RINs), said it had reviewed the issue and dismissed it.
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Susan Wright
The EPA’s RINs market is beset by problems, just not those that are ideologically convenient for Warren. For example, fraud is rampant, driving up compliance costs for real businesses that are required to purchase the RINs to meet the national biofuels quota.
In the last several years, there have been a series of high-profile RINs frauds detected, but the stories sound like an episode of “America’s Dumbest Criminals,” suggesting there is a much deeper problem and the more clever fraudsters are operating undetected.
For example, a Maryland man in his thirties managed to make $9 million selling RINs from his garage before authorities caught up with him. Notably, the reason he was caught is because his neighbors reported their suspicions about the “baby blue Rolls-Royce, white Maserati, black Bentley and two Ferraris” that he had suddenly accumulated, unusual for the suburban neighborhood where he lived, according to the Washington Post — not because selling tens of millions of fake biofuels credits tripped any alarms at the EPA.
Despite all of the problems with the RINs market, however, political reform has become extremely difficult because the dysfunctional system also created a set of winners who aren’t about to let go of windfall profits they are receiving.
For a reason yet to be adequately explained in public, EPA’s rules award RINs to companies that blend gasoline with renewable fuels as it is being prepared for sale at gas stations.
This activity has zero value as it relates to the goals of the Renewable Fuel Standard. The blending operations do not create renewable fuels, so it is not incentivizing production. The downstream buyers are buying because of regulatory requirements, so it is not incentivizing consumption.
It’s basically like winning the regulatory lottery. You do the same thing you were doing, only now your profits are doubled because your competitors have to buy their legal right to existence from you.
Obviously, someone who has won the lottery does not want to give up their winnings, hence the recent creation of a brand new cottage industry of lobbyists for Walmart and other companies that benefit from this absurd situation.
This is where Icahn enters the situation. Since his company’s largest cost, by far, is paying his competitors for RIN credits (how insane is that?), he has publicly argued the policy should be changed.
In response, Warren began a campaign of claiming Icahn was engaging in cronyism and insider dealing, when in fact the opposite is true. Whether Warren was just too ideologically blinkered to understand the real dynamics or cynically saw Icahn as a necessary sacrifice for a larger goal is unknown.
What is clear is that the junior senator from Massachusetts has a growing problem with the truth. Perhaps we should rely on someone else when it comes to parsing complicated regulatory battles.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Warren is a chrony. She's just too dumb to know it.Now we know where the kooks around here get their intelligence,
Elizabeth Warren Puts Her Ignorance of Financial Markets on Display
Government oversight officials revealed this week that Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s mud-slinging campaign against victims of the national renewable fuel quota system was groundless, another example of the far-left ideologue’s penchant for stretching the truth.
Warren had tried to launch an “investigation” into CVR Energy executive Carl Icahn after he protested an obscure loophole in the federal Renewable Fuel Standard system that is creating windfall profits for certain large, politically connected corporations and huge expenses for smaller independent firms.
Demonstrating her surprising ignorance of the actual situation, Warren tried to allege that Icahn, whose firm is on the receiving end of outrageous, EPA-assisted price gouging by Walmart and other companies, was rigging the system to his benefit.
However, the effort, likely the outgrowth of her religious devotion to environmentalism, fell to the ground with a resounding thud when the government agency with expertise and oversight on the matter revealed it had dismissed the issue completely.
In a letter to Warren, the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which oversees the EPA-operated market for “Renewable Identification Numbers” (RINs), said it had reviewed the issue and dismissed it.
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Susan Wright
The EPA’s RINs market is beset by problems, just not those that are ideologically convenient for Warren. For example, fraud is rampant, driving up compliance costs for real businesses that are required to purchase the RINs to meet the national biofuels quota.
In the last several years, there have been a series of high-profile RINs frauds detected, but the stories sound like an episode of “America’s Dumbest Criminals,” suggesting there is a much deeper problem and the more clever fraudsters are operating undetected.
For example, a Maryland man in his thirties managed to make $9 million selling RINs from his garage before authorities caught up with him. Notably, the reason he was caught is because his neighbors reported their suspicions about the “baby blue Rolls-Royce, white Maserati, black Bentley and two Ferraris” that he had suddenly accumulated, unusual for the suburban neighborhood where he lived, according to the Washington Post — not because selling tens of millions of fake biofuels credits tripped any alarms at the EPA.
Despite all of the problems with the RINs market, however, political reform has become extremely difficult because the dysfunctional system also created a set of winners who aren’t about to let go of windfall profits they are receiving.
For a reason yet to be adequately explained in public, EPA’s rules award RINs to companies that blend gasoline with renewable fuels as it is being prepared for sale at gas stations.
This activity has zero value as it relates to the goals of the Renewable Fuel Standard. The blending operations do not create renewable fuels, so it is not incentivizing production. The downstream buyers are buying because of regulatory requirements, so it is not incentivizing consumption.
It’s basically like winning the regulatory lottery. You do the same thing you were doing, only now your profits are doubled because your competitors have to buy their legal right to existence from you.
Obviously, someone who has won the lottery does not want to give up their winnings, hence the recent creation of a brand new cottage industry of lobbyists for Walmart and other companies that benefit from this absurd situation.
This is where Icahn enters the situation. Since his company’s largest cost, by far, is paying his competitors for RIN credits (how insane is that?), he has publicly argued the policy should be changed.
In response, Warren began a campaign of claiming Icahn was engaging in cronyism and insider dealing, when in fact the opposite is true. Whether Warren was just too ideologically blinkered to understand the real dynamics or cynically saw Icahn as a necessary sacrifice for a larger goal is unknown.
What is clear is that the junior senator from Massachusetts has a growing problem with the truth. Perhaps we should rely on someone else when it comes to parsing complicated regulatory battles.
Think the DNC will run her in 2020?
Sheriff Joe
DA
Pocahontas? That would be great, she would be up against Pocahontas II, Kamala Harris.Think the DNC will run her in 2020?
Racist.
Wez
DA
Think the DNC will run her in 2020?
That would be another colossal mistake...
Sheriff Joe
DA
What? Wes skipped right by the post without a word and you come in with that. If he didn't think it was racist than it must not be, he is the king of throwing that around. I just think it would be fun to watch to Injuns run against each other and then the winner running against The Donald, that's all.
Wez
DA
Scumbag