Climate and Weather
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Sheriff Joe
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I don't think any of us are, the cause is the big question for some of us.
Climate is never static.
It's always changing, and it does so incrementally, and at times, drastically.
There are far too many variables, many unknown, some under estimated, some exaggerated, and the interplay between all of these dynamics too complex for us to have any rational basis at this point for predicting what it will do.
It was not long ago that most of north America was locked beneath a mile or two of ice.
I look optimistically at the temperate trend we are lucky enough to have timed into.
Do I doubt the so called, "experts"?
Always.
Wez, Wez, Wez......
Ok....now that you've simmered on that for a while and your two back slapping
Idiots Andytutu and Ratatootoo did so without doing any research, I'll show you
the truth......
First of all the California Power grid is broken up into sectors and that's how they come up with the fantasy
percentage point that Wez rattled off, the sectors with the highest demand are not included in the number
he states. Second, to keep the power charges high so as to generate a profit they have forced power plants within
California to reduce output or shut down completely. The glut of " renewable " power is the third sneaky item, they
now have an abundance of extra power so they cut off or shut down extra....
California imports 35 -45 % its electrical power from three plants in three states during peak times :
The Inter-mountain Power Project in Utah
The San Juan plant in New Mexico
The Navajo plant in Arizona
Some of the above plants have been forced by California Cities ( LA ) for one, to imminent closure due to
partisan politics
Wez
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You don't even bother sourcing your nonsense, so I don't even bother reading it.
Bruddah IZ
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Why would you deny something that is always happening?
Wez
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The old "it's too complex for anyone but God to understand so it's in God's hands" response.
AGW is and always has been, "wishing for the best, preparing for the worst". Everything else is just noise.
Wez
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Why would anyone deny Climate Change? It's what you feel about AGW that matters.
And again I have to ask so what is his point? Once you cross the bridge of admitting that man is causing the climate to change... seems to me that it becomes fairly hard to maintain the position that we should just carry on denying like it's not.
Take Bernie's position for example. I can get how folks can say well I like my big SUV and gluttonous lifestyle and have just decided not to believe, and that's that. I might disagree, or even find his thinking to be self-serving. But at least it's a coherent position. Lion's is much less coherent to me.
I always find it's much more fun if I add in sound effects when reading your posts. It makes them feel much more cartoony and fun to read.
Take for example your first couple sentences.
Climate is never a statistic (BOINGGG)
(Whoosh) It's always changing (CELL DOOR SLAM SOUND EFFECT).
It does so incrementally (CRYSTAL CHIME BUILD UNDER REST OF SENTENCE TO MAKES US FEEL THE ENLIGHTENMENT BEING POOPED UPON US)
and at times, drastically... (OUTER SPACY SOUNDING SWISH WITH A GLASS BREAK SFX)
See how it makes the posts less boring and made up sounding- and just transforms it into something more fun...
Have you stopped driving your car? Stopped flying around the country?
Ceased using products with petroleum in it or used to produce it?
Man is not "causing" climate change.
Contributing to climate change, pretty good bet. How much? Who knows...perhaps a lot.
The more important question, can we stop climate change?
I gotta say since it's been changing for millions of years, I have my doubts.
Should we be doing everything reasonable to develop and use alternative energy, ones that don't produce c02 as a by product, absolutely.
But, even if folks gave up and changed their life styles, I'm not so sure that would stop climate change, might slow it down ...maybe.
The seas have risen before, the earth has been warmer.
Do you think we'd be better off with a new ice age?
Wez
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I said nothing about the level of coherence, I simply made a guess as to the meaning. Admitting that man is helping expedite Global Warming and then yelling at the left that "since the degree to which we are, is not known with certainty" we should relax regulations and refrain from taking actions, is the "in thing", in the days of Dump.
Sheriff Joe
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A bridge too far.
Wez
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To be fair, I don't see you doing that, but it is common on the right.
Sheriff Joe
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You have finally, officially lost it.
Many people don't just say "It's what I believe". They just say "Fuck off and die".
I hope this isn't a news flash... but humanity progresses. For most of human history everyone just dumped their waste and filth out in the street. Then we figured out indoor plumbing and living standards have been lifted across the world. Surely your not also saying we should start deporting plumbers?
Again if your going to be a denier the be a denier. If you want to go backwards then go backwards. But right now my opinion is your just being wishy washy and wanting it both ways. It's like you want the affirmation of not being considered a nutter global warming denier- but at the same time you don't want to bear any of the cost holding such a position bears.
Many people don't say that...just a few, and then, only to the deserving...
What have you done to stop climate change? Nothing?
Have you stopped flyin'? Driving? Are you even peddling down to Ralph's for groceries?
If not, then save your sanctimonious pontifications for someone who believes the key to stop global warming is getting back into the Paris Accord.
Excuse me while I start the Bar-b-que.....I love cooking on mesquite...although I had tri tip and chicken cooked on lemon wood this weekend that was absolutely great.