Hüsker Dü
DA
If we get 5 more years of this.
Climate and Weather
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Sheriff Joe
DA
Typical
You've lived here all your life.
Do we ever get five years of this?
Trump is ending the drought that Obama couldnt even put a dent in.
Bruddah IZ
DA
“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
or seen the storehouses of the hail,
23which I reserve for times of trouble,
for days of war and battle?
24What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed,
or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?
25Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain,
and a path for the thunderstorm,
26to water a land where no one lives,
an uninhabited desert,
27to satisfy a desolate wasteland
and make it sprout with grass?
28Does the rain have a father?
Who fathers the drops of dew?
29From whose womb comes the ice?
Who gives birth to the frost from the heavens
30when the waters become hard as stone,
when the surface of the deep is frozen?
If you are reading this from anywhere in California, stop, look in the mirror and say, “I’m a champion.”
It’s an indisputable claim, because experts say Californians are the worldwide leaders at capturing water.
Our state has its own man-made circulation system — concrete canals and pipes that bring water from faraway mountains to farms and population centers. We’re the only place in the world with anything like it.
But, like a lot of champions, we might be getting complacent, cruising to victories over a bunch of easy-to-beat weather patterns.
Because as scientists slowly piece together clues unlocking the region’s ancient climate history, they are learning that California’s past is marked by stifling, soul-crushing droughts that lasted 30 years or longer and brought complex societies to their knees.
No one can say for sure if we are in a megadrought. We only know that, at this rate, we’ll eventually run out of water.
“You crawl into these things, and you crawl out of them,” said Bill Patzert, a mathematician and oceanographer at Jet Propulsion Laboratories who is considered the foremost expert on the interaction between the ocean and weather patterns. “But I can guarantee that we’re eventually going to find ourselves in a bad one.”
And this is probably not due to human-created climate change, Patzert said. It’s just garden variety variation in a climate that is much more erratic than most of us realize, he said.
By aging old tree stumps in Lake Tahoe, climate researcher Susan Lindstrom found a dry period that lasted an estimated 1,300 years until it finally started getting wetter around 4000 B.C.
And, more recently, an extended dry period that began about 1,050 years ago likely helped cause the absolute collapse of intricate Southwest American-Indian societies.
What’s more, a flood in 1605 was so severe it turned the Central Valley into a lake.
The last 150 years of weather represent some of the most peaceful, reliable periods of rainfall in the region’s history, concluded paleoclimatologists B. Lynn Ingram and Frances Malamud-Roam, in their recent book “The West Without Water.”
entire article:
http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20140215/history-shows-california-subject-to-extreme-droughts
It’s an indisputable claim, because experts say Californians are the worldwide leaders at capturing water.
Our state has its own man-made circulation system — concrete canals and pipes that bring water from faraway mountains to farms and population centers. We’re the only place in the world with anything like it.
But, like a lot of champions, we might be getting complacent, cruising to victories over a bunch of easy-to-beat weather patterns.
Because as scientists slowly piece together clues unlocking the region’s ancient climate history, they are learning that California’s past is marked by stifling, soul-crushing droughts that lasted 30 years or longer and brought complex societies to their knees.
No one can say for sure if we are in a megadrought. We only know that, at this rate, we’ll eventually run out of water.
“You crawl into these things, and you crawl out of them,” said Bill Patzert, a mathematician and oceanographer at Jet Propulsion Laboratories who is considered the foremost expert on the interaction between the ocean and weather patterns. “But I can guarantee that we’re eventually going to find ourselves in a bad one.”
And this is probably not due to human-created climate change, Patzert said. It’s just garden variety variation in a climate that is much more erratic than most of us realize, he said.
By aging old tree stumps in Lake Tahoe, climate researcher Susan Lindstrom found a dry period that lasted an estimated 1,300 years until it finally started getting wetter around 4000 B.C.
And, more recently, an extended dry period that began about 1,050 years ago likely helped cause the absolute collapse of intricate Southwest American-Indian societies.
What’s more, a flood in 1605 was so severe it turned the Central Valley into a lake.
The last 150 years of weather represent some of the most peaceful, reliable periods of rainfall in the region’s history, concluded paleoclimatologists B. Lynn Ingram and Frances Malamud-Roam, in their recent book “The West Without Water.”
entire article:
http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/20140215/history-shows-california-subject-to-extreme-droughts
Sheriff Joe
DA
Obama was an Ofor President, he only succeeded in screwing up this country in every way. I cannot think of one positive thing he accomplished. He moved the country so far left that Trump bringing it back to balance seems almost radical, that is always the lefts way and they have been getting away with it for years. Here's to Trump and here's to the cocksucker that is leaving.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Even God listens to Trump.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Weathermen, pfffftt. Last year was supposed to be the wet one, just glad it's here now.
What about'em?
What we need is high speed rail.
Hüsker Dü
DA
They had been drilling them for water it takes years of good rain to replenish them.
Yep, many years to replenish them....
Desalination plants instead of high speed rail...?
Perhaps the municipalities wouldn't have to use as much ground water.
High speed rail is not gonna be needed if we run out of water.
Hüsker Dü
DA
We just finished a deal plant down here, expensive water . . . of course they are pushing toilet to tap, but only for the residents south of highway 94.
Wez
DA
I'm not the defender of the high speed rail project, but the EU and Japan seem to love theirs. Can't we do both desalination and rail, assuming the funding sources make sense?
Bruddah IZ
DA
Bruddah IZ
DA
California, and specifically, southern california is made up of mostly arid and semi-arid regions.
The water has to be delivered, and has been, in the past, through monumental engineering, and visionary ways.
The population has doubled in the last forty years, yet we still rely largely, on a 70 year old aquaduct system.
Anyone who has lived here for any length of time and is somewhat educated (or just pays attention) on the climate patterns, understands that we have a pattern of "droughts", followed by short bursts of precipitation.
Desalination is the obvious answer.
Either that, or half of those people who moved out here need to go back to where they came from.