Climate and Weather

[Wez]

How much warmer is the ocean in the arctic?
If the simplistic interpretation that cooling causes more ice is incorrect in the antarctic, then why is the simplistic version of warming causing less ice in the arctic correct?

You're a plumber, right?

 

[Bernie Sanders]

http://xmetman.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Antarctic-Sea-Ice-Melt-Season-1980-2016-.png

 

[Bernie Sanders]

You're a plumber, right?

Is that your answer?
Is my question out of line?
I have nothing to do with arctic or antarctic warming and cooling.

 

[espola]

How much warmer is the ocean in the arctic?
If the simplistic interpretation that cooling causes more ice is incorrect in the antarctic, then why is the simplistic version of warming causing less ice in the arctic correct?

Simplistic indeed.

The Arctic would be open ocean if not for the ice. Antarctica is a mountainous continent large than Australia.

Most sea ice in the Arctic is frozen from salty sea water every year. The ice freezes all the way across from North America to Europe and Asia every winter, and mostly thaws every summer.

Most sea ice in the Antarctic is old fresh-water glaciers sitting on 10,000-foot-high plateau sliding into the sea, with ocean ice freezing on the margins every winter (northern hemisphere summer).

 

[Wez]

I have nothing to do with arctic or antarctic warming and cooling.

Stop acting like you understand the Science.

 

[espola]

Stop acting like you understand the Science.

It would be simpler to say that the same effect should occur at both poles, but they are physically (and geographically) opposites.

Aff-Bear has brought up this old chestnut several times in the past on the predecessor fora. The rebuttal hasn't changed much.

 

[Bernie Sanders]

Stop acting like you understand the Science.

I dont understand the science.
Thats why I ask so many questions.

 

[Bernie Sanders]

It would be simpler to say that the same effect should occur at both poles, but they are physically (and geographically) opposites.

Aff-Bear has brought up this old chestnut several times in the past on the predecessor fora. The rebuttal hasn't changed much.

I got it.
Warming causes ice to grow in the antarctic, and melts ice in the arctic.

 

[Wez]

I dont understand the science.
Thats why I ask so many questions.

Fair enough, but you're questions are all seemingly fighting against the possibility of AGW.....cuz of your bias.

 

[Bernie Sanders]

Fair enough, but you're questions are all seemingly fighting against the possibility of AGW.....cuz of your bias.

Im a skeptic by nature.
Its in my DNA.
You're more of a herd member.
You people outnumber us people,....by alot.

 

[Wez]

Im a skeptic by nature.
Its in my DNA.
You're more of a herd member.
You people outnumber us people.

Bullshit, it's yout politics controlling your "skepticism". You actively deny anything that counters your political stance and you only question Scientists that disrupt your view.

 

[EvilGoalie 21]

How much warmer is the ocean in the arctic?
If the simplistic interpretation that cooling causes more ice is incorrect in the antarctic, then why is the simplistic version of warming causing less ice in the arctic correct?

The article I posted a few weeks ago provides an initial understanding of an answer.

 

[espola]

The article I posted a few weeks ago provides an initial understanding of an answer.

Denial is infinite.

 

[Lion Eyes]

Stop acting like you understand the Science.

You first Wez, after all you're a leader....

 

[Lion Eyes]

Fair enough, but you're questions are all seemingly fighting against the possibility of AGW.....cuz of your bias.

That would be your biased opinion...
Which is fine...

 

[Lion Eyes]

Bullshit, it's yout politics controlling your "skepticism". You actively deny anything that counters your political stance and you only question Scientists that disrupt your view.

Well finally we get down to the potty mouthed judgment....
Again, that's fine Wez.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!

 

[Lion Eyes]

I get 5 to 10 e-mails daily from the great state of Texas some showing the same kinda thing . . . usually accompanied by something about global warming and snowballs and the like. Was that your point? or is it just a cool picture?

It's a great picture. Just enjoy the picture.
You really shouldn't read more than you see or more than is written.
Merry Christmas to you and yours Huckster....

 

[EvilGoalie 21]

Passing through. Post a bit ago about how burden of proof was not on the skeptic. I see it a bit differently I guess. Any quest for understanding is always a singular, and typically lonely, journey. And virtually nobody is going to give a shit whether you get there or not. Anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. Can't upload mp3's but here's a favorite from the evil goalie vault.

 

[Bernie Sanders]

The article I posted a few weeks ago provides an initial understanding of an answer.

I understand there is always an answer.
I just dont always understand how to accept it.

 

[Bernie Sanders]

Passing through. Post a bit ago about how burden of proof was not on the skeptic. I see it a bit differently I guess. Any quest for understanding is always a singular, and typically lonely, journey. And virtually nobody is going to give a shit whether you get there or not. Anyway, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. Can't upload mp3's but here's a favorite from the evil goalie vault.

Merry Christmas to you, not so evil one.