Climate and Weather

Hüsker Dü said:
You ain't seeing what I'm seeing, in fact you are going out of your way not to see it.
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You see what you want to see.
You ever started a business, worked for hours and hours to make it succeed?
Anybody sitting next to you on those late nights because paper work is needed the next morning.
Ever miss out on a family function or championship soccer game because you need to finish a project when promised.
Ever make cold calls to sell your business and spread your name around to those that may use your services?
Nobody called me when I first got my business line up and running. I had to sell the business.
I had to build the business, no one else did it for me.
I not only see it Huckster, I've lived it.
 
Lion Eyes said:
You see what you want to see.
You ever started a business, worked for hours and hours to make it succeed?
Anybody sitting next to you on those late nights because paper work is needed the next morning.
Ever miss out on a family function or championship soccer game because you need to finish a project when promised.
Ever make cold calls to sell your business and spread your name around to those that may use your services?
Nobody called me when I first got my business line up and running. I had to sell the business.
I had to build the business, no one else did it for me.
I not only see it Huckster, I've lived it.
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Seems to have made you bitter.
 
Lion Eyes said:
You see what you want to see.
You ever started a business, worked for hours and hours to make it succeed?
Anybody sitting next to you on those late nights because paper work is needed the next morning.
Ever miss out on a family function or championship soccer game because you need to finish a project when promised.
Ever make cold calls to sell your business and spread your name around to those that may use your services?
Nobody called me when I first got my business line up and running. I had to sell the business.
I had to build the business, no one else did it for me.
I not only see it Huckster, I've lived it.
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How did the roads to and from your business get built?
Who paid for your education?
Who taught you how to do what you do?
Who taught you how to tie your shoes?
Who paid to get common services close to and available for hook up to your place of business?
Who fought to keep this country free so you could have a business? and who helped pay for that?
There are thousand of things that went into your success before you even started down that path. The path you chose, the decisions you made, the luck you had and the people that decided help you were influenced and determined by you . . . and yes, you built your success from nothing, if you consider yourself and all that went into you nothing?

Without others you would have a tough time conjuring everything alone.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Only when some jackass who has never operated a busines comes along and tells me I didn't build that or purports I don't understand.
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I actually agree with Lion here, those comments Obama made about building a business were a little off base. BO was trying to appeal to the common man, but in the process slighted the incredibly hard work it takes to build a successful business. There is a reason the vast majority of small business fail and that most people don't make huge incomes. Aint nothin easy in life.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
How did the roads to and from your business get built?
Who paid for your education?
Who taught you how to do what you do?
Who taught you how to tie your shoes?
Who paid to get common services close to and available for hook up to your place of business?
Who fought to keep this country free so you could have a business? and who helped pay for that?
There are thousand of things that went into your success before you even started down that path. The path you chose, the decisions you made, the luck you had and the people that decided help you were influenced and determined by you . . . and yes, you built your success from nothing, if you consider yourself and all that went into you nothing?

Without others you would have a tough time conjuring everything alone.
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Okay Mr. Obvious with out human history and civilization we might all be running around 1/2 naked & crapping in a hole in the dirt.
At the risk of repeating myself, let me repeat myself.
The infrastructure is there for all... the level playing field if you will.
If success was do to the "foundations" built by others and the infrastructure paid for by all and used by all, everyone would have a successful business.
Hard work, sacrifice, & drive to succeed produce successful business.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Okay Mr. Obvious with out human history and civilization we might all be running around 1/2 naked & crapping in a hole in the dirt.
At the risk of repeating myself, let me repeat myself.
The infrastructure is there for all... the level playing field if you will.
If success was do to the "foundations" built by others and the infrastructure paid for by all and used by all, everyone would have a successful business.
Hard work, sacrifice, & drive to succeed produce successful business.
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Seems to have made you bitter.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
How did the roads to and from your business get built?
Who paid for your education?
Who taught you how to do what you do?
Who taught you how to tie your shoes?
Who paid to get common services close to and available for hook up to your place of business?
Who fought to keep this country free so you could have a business? and who helped pay for that?
There are thousand of things that went into your success before you even started down that path. The path you chose, the decisions you made, the luck you had and the people that decided help you were influenced and determined by you . . . and yes, you built your success from nothing, if you consider yourself and all that went into you nothing?

Without others you would have a tough time conjuring everything alone.
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Our TAX dollars! Generated by me, you and every other hard working American. WE fund the government, they don't fund us. Oh yah...those people who built those roads and infrastructure you speak of, they got paid too. Because THEY did the work, put the effort in and susiquently paid taxes too!

Your point is what come first, Infrastructure or Enterprise? I say Enterprise founded (and funded) the need for Infastructure.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Deja vu, all over again...
Only when some jackass who has never operated a business comes along and tells me I didn't build that or purports I don't understand.
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My wife and I have operated a business (actually, several businesses) for 20-some years now. For the first couple of years, we used her retirement savings and my paycheck to finance things. Then it turned profitable and expanded into 4 times the space. Running a small business is a 24-7 operation for her - I was happy to "retire" into the role of babysitter and technical support as needed, and providing a sympathetic ear when she was getting screwed by competitors, customers, employees, and city bureaucracy. She now has retrenched to a level she can operate her remaining business (real estate broker) from home (and car, and laptops, and cellphones).

But it hasn't made us bitter. I still volunteer at the high school soccer games (no more club or league meetings now that my kids aged out). My wife has been cooking all week for the free morning meals at her church. For years she was an international ambassador for NAR, setting up training and recruiting seminars around the rim of Asia from Taiwan to Dubai. She organized an effort to build housing for victims of a typhoon in the Philippines, coordinating money from NAR and local fundraisers (over $20k last week), construction of houses from old shipping containers, and land donations from the mayor of the worst-hit city. Yesterday she was appointed interim Chairman of the Board of a new public health clinic, tasked with finding permanent board members (usually that means people with money) and a professional executive director, who will recruit staff.

If she becomes as bitter as you act, I'd move in with the kids.
 
espola said:
My wife and I have operated a business (actually, several businesses) for 20-some years now. For the first couple of years, we used her retirement savings and my paycheck to finance things. Then it turned profitable and expanded into 4 times the space. Running a small business is a 24-7 operation for her - I was happy to "retire" into the role of babysitter and technical support as needed, and providing a sympathetic ear when she was getting screwed by competitors, customers, employees, and city bureaucracy. She now has retrenched to a level she can operate her remaining business (real estate broker) from home (and car, and laptops, and cellphones).

But it hasn't made us bitter. I still volunteer at the high school soccer games (no more club or league meetings now that my kids aged out). My wife has been cooking all week for the free morning meals at her church. For years she was an international ambassador for NAR, setting up training and recruiting seminars around the rim of Asia from Taiwan to Dubai. She organized an effort to build housing for victims of a typhoon in the Philippines, coordinating money from NAR and local fundraisers (over $20k last week), construction of houses from old shipping containers, and land donations from the mayor of the worst-hit city. Yesterday she was appointed interim Chairman of the Board of a new public health clinic, tasked with finding permanent board members (usually that means people with money) and a professional executive director, who will recruit staff.

If she becomes as bitter as you act, I'd move in with the kids.
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Sounds like your wife is a hard worker.
Your kids will probably take you in, providing you were a good housewife and babysitter.
 
Multi Sport said:
Most December snow at Jackson Hole in 40 years.... gotta love global warming.
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Wez said:
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"Climate change" is an ambiguous term.
If you were more informed, you may understand that there are two sides to the AGW issue.
One believes firmly, that co2 is basically the climate control knob, and that anthropogenic co2 is driving a dangerous warming trend that will have a devastating effect on earth and humanity.
The other side believes that co2 is a bit player in the overall climate, and the effects of anthropogenic co2 are negligible, and probably overshadowed by natural dynamics in the overall climate system
 
Bernie Sanders said:
"Climate change" is an ambiguous term.
If you were more informed, you may understand that there are two sides to the AGW issue.
One believes firmly, that co2 is basically the climate control knob, and that anthropogenic co2 is driving a dangerous warming trend that will have a devastating effect on earth and humanity.
The other side believes that co2 is a bit player in the overall climate, and the effects of anthropogenic co2 are negligible, and probably overshadowed by natural dynamics in the overall climate system
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Right, Climate Change is pretty much accepted by everyone, it's the extent mankind is having in our current warming trend that is disputed. Unfortunately the generic term "Climate Change" has been widely accepted as the stand-in term for AGW.
 
Wez said:
Right, Climate Change is pretty much accepted by everyone, it's the extent mankind is having in our current warming trend that is disputed. Unfortunately the generic term "Climate Change" has been widely accepted as the stand-in term for AGW.
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Climate change was invented to replace global warming when global cooling started. Whatever term fits the crazy lefts agenda at any moment is the term that is widely accepted by the alarmists.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Climate change was invented to replace global warming when global cooling started. Whatever term fits the crazy lefts agenda at any moment is the term that is widely accepted by the alarmists.
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Do you ever get tired of being wrong???

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astr...ews_global_warming_versus_climate_change.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz

"...the term “climate change” was in fact promoted by Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who suggested using it because it’s less severe (“frightening”) then saying “global warming”

"Although Luntz later tried to distance himself from the Bush administration policy, it was his idea that administration communications reframe "global warming" as "climate change" since "climate change" was thought to sound less severe.[19] Luntz has since said that he is not responsible for what the Bush administration did after that time. Though he now believes humans have contributed to global warming, he maintains that the science was in fact incomplete, and his recommendation sound, at the time he made it.[20]"
 
Wez said:
Do you ever get tired of being wrong???

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astr...ews_global_warming_versus_climate_change.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz

"...the term “climate change” was in fact promoted by Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who suggested using it because it’s less severe (“frightening”) then saying “global warming”

"Although Luntz later tried to distance himself from the Bush administration policy, it was his idea that administration communications reframe "global warming" as "climate change" since "climate change" was thought to sound less severe.[19] Luntz has since said that he is not responsible for what the Bush administration did after that time. Though he now believes humans have contributed to global warming, he maintains that the science was in fact incomplete, and his recommendation sound, at the time he made it.[20]"
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I thought being wrong was his shtick, to ride the outside line so all the other less-loony posters look sane by comparison.
 
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