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Nice elitist retort!
You still wont get invited to the holiday gala.
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I saw Scientifica Principia International graced out little climate thread. In the climate blah-blah-blah go sphere even skeptics like Watts, no friend of the scientific consensus, think they are full of it. There is a long standing antagonism between WUWT and SPI. A couple of years ago there was this true classic in the blahgosphere with the lightbulb in the mirror "experiments". At stake-do we quibble with the magnitude (or anthropogenic influence) of the climate sensitivity constant of Arrhenius's greenhouse gas law, or, as SPI would have you believe, is the whole law itself complete bullshit. Poppycock I guess since SPI has big Brit influence in their little "scientific community". Here's what Watts has to say about them, which I guess about sums it up.

"Most of what that group does is to spin sciencey sounding theories and pal reviewed papers by a mysterious members-only peer review system, and I have yet to any one of them try to do anything at an experimental/empirical measurement level to back up the sort of claims they make."

If anybody wants to check out the lightbulb thing you can get a sense of it from these links. Fair warning-its kind of like watching an episode of Mythbusters where they never quite get around to blowing something up. But you will get to see a digital thermocouple in action and you may discover that everything you know is wrong.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/27/new-wuwt-tv-segment-slaying-the-slayers-with-watts/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/28/slaying-the-slayers-with-watts-part-2/
http://principia-scientific.org/light-bulb-experiments-slaying-watts-with-watts/
 
I saw Scientifica Principia International graced out little climate thread. In the climate blah-blah-blah go sphere even skeptics like Watts, no friend of the scientific consensus, think they are full of it. There is a long standing antagonism between WUWT and SPI. A couple of years ago there was this true classic in the blahgosphere with the lightbulb in the mirror "experiments". At stake-do we quibble with the magnitude (or anthropogenic influence) of the climate sensitivity constant of Arrhenius's greenhouse gas law, or, as SPI would have you believe, is the whole law itself complete bullshit. Poppycock I guess since SPI has big Brit influence in their little "scientific community". Here's what Watts has to say about them, which I guess about sums it up.

"Most of what that group does is to spin sciencey sounding theories and pal reviewed papers by a mysterious members-only peer review system, and I have yet to any one of them try to do anything at an experimental/empirical measurement level to back up the sort of claims they make."

If anybody wants to check out the lightbulb thing you can get a sense of it from these links. Fair warning-its kind of like watching an episode of Mythbusters where they never quite get around to blowing something up. But you will get to see a digital thermocouple in action and you may discover that everything you know is wrong.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/27/new-wuwt-tv-segment-slaying-the-slayers-with-watts/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/28/slaying-the-slayers-with-watts-part-2/
http://principia-scientific.org/light-bulb-experiments-slaying-watts-with-watts/

They get partial credit for spelling thermodynamics correctly.

One thing I would try with the light bulb and mirror setup - with the IR thermometer, measure several spots on the light bulb and then measure similar spots in the reflection of the light bulb in the mirror.
 
They get partial credit for spelling thermodynamics correctly.

One thing I would try with the light bulb and mirror setup - with the IR thermometer, measure several spots on the light bulb and then measure similar spots in the reflection of the light bulb in the mirror.
While youre at it, unscrew the light bulb, put your thumb in the hole, and try sticking your foot in the bathtub.
(first fill tub with water)
 
ALERT! The so far small temperature change in the climate is melting glaciers, killing off coral and causing strange weather, but winter does still exist!

Not to get to deep or anything, but it has been said that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, but don't quote me on that!
 
Glaciers have been forming and melting for.....much of world history. Here's some interesting facts about our very own Great Lakes.

The Great Lakes have not always looked the way they do today. In fact if you were to go back in time and visit Michigan 14,000 years ago, you would have found the Great Lakes area covered in a sheet of ice, called a glacier, that averaged over one kilometer thick. At rates of only a few centimeters per day, the glacier slowly made its way across the Great Lakes basin. It carved out deep valleys and moved large amounts of soil. As the glacier melted and moved towards Canada, it left behind a series of large holes that filled with meltwater from the glacier. These formed the basic shape of the Great Lakes. It wasn't until 6,000 years ago that the lakes took their final shape we see today.
http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module08/GreatLakesPastandPresent.htm
 
In fact if you were to go back in time and visit Michigan 14,000 years ago, you would have found the Great Lakes area covered in a sheet of ice, called a glacier, that averaged over one kilometer thick.

That's not what Young Earth Creationist believe happened. You know, 42% of America and no doubt all Trump voters...
 
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