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Bruddah IZ said:
"Administrator Pruitt must be recused from any involvement in the EPA's attempt to repeal the Clean Power Plan," said Attorney General Becerra. "He has made a name for himself as someone who will do everything in his power to axe this important environmental policy, and he cannot credibly claim to have an open mind about it. His words speak for themselves. The Clean Power Plan would reduce coal and gas-fired power plant emissions by 16 percent by 2030, while avoiding 3,500 premature deaths per year. This is what Administrator Pruitt is against. He ought to do his job and protect our environment instead of catering to the fossil fuel industry.”

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-relea...dministrator-pruitt-should-be-recused-attempt


I'd like to see Becerra stop catering to the fossil fuel industry himself and see if he can live for even one day without using fossil fuel.
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These bureaucrats in California have been unopposed in their leftist zealotry for so long, they actually believe they run the entire country.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
"Administrator Pruitt must be recused from any involvement in the EPA's attempt to repeal the Clean Power Plan," said Attorney General Becerra. "He has made a name for himself as someone who will do everything in his power to axe this important environmental policy, and he cannot credibly claim to have an open mind about it. His words speak for themselves. The Clean Power Plan would reduce coal and gas-fired power plant emissions by 16 percent by 2030, while avoiding 3,500 premature deaths per year. This is what Administrator Pruitt is against. He ought to do his job and protect our environment instead of catering to the fossil fuel industry.”

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-relea...dministrator-pruitt-should-be-recused-attempt


I'd like to see Becerra stop catering to the fossil fuel industry himself and see if he can live for even one day without using fossil fuel.
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"open mind"
Too funny.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
"Administrator Pruitt must be recused from any involvement in the EPA's attempt to repeal the Clean Power Plan," said Attorney General Becerra. "He has made a name for himself as someone who will do everything in his power to axe this important environmental policy, and he cannot credibly claim to have an open mind about it. His words speak for themselves. The Clean Power Plan would reduce coal and gas-fired power plant emissions by 16 percent by 2030, while avoiding 3,500 premature deaths per year. This is what Administrator Pruitt is against. He ought to do his job and protect our environment instead of catering to the fossil fuel industry.”

https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-relea...dministrator-pruitt-should-be-recused-attempt


I'd like to see Becerra stop catering to the fossil fuel industry himself and see if he can live for even one day without using fossil fuel.
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Can you imagine the resistance to catalytic converters, which completely saved So Cal's air, by the likes of Pruitt and those he serves? Thank God Californians had the political will to force that on car makers. i guess you people were on the car makers' side. Not me.
 
xav10 said:
Can you imagine the resistance to catalytic converters, which completely saved So Cal's air, by the likes of Pruitt and those he serves? Thank God Californians had the political will to force that on car makers.
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Catalytic converters are a good thing. We all agree on that.
They were developed when the EPA was in its rightful position of watchdog. The EPA has its place, but that place is not above or unaccountable to the people it serves.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Catalytic converters are a good thing. We all agree on that.
They were developed when the EPA was in its rightful position of watchdog. The EPA has its place, but that place is not above or unaccountable to the people it serves.
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It’s much simpler than the argument about accountability. California always had more stringent standards than the rest of the country and was the first to require cars to have the converters, against strong opposition. Today, as we see, those regulations are now strongly resisted by this administration and this type of thinking would never have gotten us clean air regulations at all.
 
xav10 said:
It’s much simpler than the argument about accountability. California always had more stringent standards than the rest of the country and was the first to require cars to have the converters, against strong opposition. Today, as we see, those regulations are now strongly resisted by this administration and this type of thinking would never have gotten us clean air regulations at all.
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The EPA, like CARB in California have become too powerful. The mission to protect the environment is worthy, but not to the extent that all other considerations evaporate.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
The EPA, like CARB in California have become too powerful. The mission to protect the environment is worthy, but not to the extent that all other considerations evaporate.
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What other considerations? Clean air and water vs. cheaper cars? I take clean air. It worked, too!
 
xav10 said:
What other considerations? Clean air and water vs. cheaper cars? I take clean air. It worked, too!
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You dont believe an unaccountable bureaucracy is antithetical to our republic. I get that.
I disagree.
We can have clean air and water, and a democratic republic that holds every finger of government accountable as well.
 
xav10 said:
Can you imagine the resistance to catalytic converters, which completely saved So Cal's air, by the likes of Pruitt and those he serves? Thank God Californians had the political will to force that on car makers. i guess you people were on the car makers' side. Not me.
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"Imagine" that.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
You dont believe an unaccountable bureaucracy is antithetical to our republic. I get that.
I disagree.
We can have clean air and water, and a democratic republic that holds every finger of government accountable as well.
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Nope. You simply are in the side that says corporations should be unregulated and therefore their view of how restrictive the regulations should be would control. As I say, we here in CA have the financial and political clout to be more stringent in our protections than a guy who is from an oil-based economy state (Pruitt from OK), who doesn’t believe that emissions contribute to climate change. You can dress it up all you want about accountability and democracy, but it’s really that simple. Pruitt is the bureaucracy and you’re on his side.
 
xav10 said:
Nope. You simply are in the side that says corporations should be unregulated and therefore their view of how restrictive the regulations should be would control. As I say, we here in CA have the financial and political clout to be more stringent in our protections than a guy who is from an oil-based economy state (Pruitt from OK), who doesn’t believe that emissions contribute to climate change. You can dress it up all you want about accountability and democracy, but it’s really that simple. Pruitt is the bureaucracy and you’re on his side.
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Please list the corporations which are "unregulated" so we can go case by case.
 
xav10 said:
Nope. You simply are in the side that says corporations should be unregulated and therefore their view of how restrictive the regulations should be would control. As I say, we here in CA have the financial and political clout to be more stringent in our protections than a guy who is from an oil-based economy state (Pruitt from OK), who doesn’t believe that emissions contribute to climate change. You can dress it up all you want about accountability and democracy, but it’s really that simple. Pruitt is the bureaucracy and you’re on his side.
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Who's your nanny.
 
xav10 said:
My state cleaned up my air. For that I am happy. If you’re against it, you lose! But you can call it your nanny if you want. I don’t.
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When catalytic converters were first required so only a few cars had them yet, on smoggy LA days the exhaust from those cars had less NOX pollutants than the air they were taking in.
 
xav10 said:
Can you imagine the resistance to catalytic converters, which completely saved So Cal's air, by the likes of Pruitt and those he serves? Thank God Californians had the political will to force that on car makers. i guess you people were on the car makers' side. Not me.
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You people always assume that car makers want to kill the masses that just happens to be the reason theyʻre in business in the first place. Not a sustainable business plan. Youʻre welcome.
 
xav10 said:
Nope. You simply are in the side that says corporations should be unregulated and therefore their view of how restrictive the regulations should be would control. As I say, we here in CA have the financial and political clout to be more stringent in our protections than a guy who is from an oil-based economy state (Pruitt from OK), who doesn’t believe that emissions contribute to climate change. You can dress it up all you want about accountability and democracy, but it’s really that simple. Pruitt is the bureaucracy and you’re on his side.
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You are a dope.
 
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