Climate and Weather

Lion Eyes said:
My point is that there are many who believe we can control climate. These folks should lead us by example. We affect climate we can't control it.
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If you control that which changes Climate, you logically have some control of what happens to our Climate.

If fracture drilling and the wells used when doing fracture drilling cause earthquakes and those quakes cause damage to people's property, should we continue doing it? We don't have to frac for oil.
 
Wez said:
If you control that which changes Climate, you logically have some control of what happens to our Climate.

If fracture drilling and the wells used when doing fracture drilling cause earthquakes and those quakes cause damage to people's property, should we continue doing it? We don't have to frac for oil.
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Perhaps ...there are those that believe that by outlawing guns, making some types retro illegal that gun violence will stop or be CONTROLLED... that would occur right?
I say figure out a way to fill the void created by the fracking.
If we create the earthquakes we can surely stop them & get the oil we need.
Or hell just build a pipeline to Canada and import their oil....that didn't pan out....hmmm....
I sure wish that whole thing about war for oil had worked out for us...we went to all that trouble for oil and then just came home without it...just sayin'
O well frack it!
Pondering.... how are earth quakes & climate related?
 
Lion Eyes said:
Perhaps ...there are those that believe that by outlawing guns, making some types retro illegal that gun violence will stop or be CONTROLLED... that would occur right?
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http://www.msnbc.com/all/california-did-tough-gun-control-laws-cut

CA, with it's tough gun laws, has dropped gun deaths by a far greater percentage than the rest of the nation. Looks like the desired effect with gun controls is working.


Lion Eyes said:
Pondering.... how are earth quakes & climate related?
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Fracture drilling, fossil fuels, how we affect our environment, it's all related.
 
Wez said:
If you control that which changes Climate, you logically have some control of what happens to our Climate.

If fracture drilling and the wells used when doing fracture drilling cause earthquakes and those quakes cause damage to people's property, should we continue doing it? We don't have to frac for oil.
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We don't have to drill for oil period.
If we need the oil and fracking does indeed cause earthquakes, we should have the technology to fill the voids caused by fracking.
This would stop the 'caused" earth quakes...right? Maybe? We don't know?
Just think... we could then utilize this new anti earthquake technology (void filling) and stop all earth quakes.
Let's get a patent Wezzer. Whata ya say?
 
Wez said:
http://www.msnbc.com/all/california-did-tough-gun-control-laws-cut

CA, with it's tough gun laws, has dropped gun deaths by a far greater percentage than the rest of the nation. Looks like the desired effect with gun controls is working
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Gun deaths have been going down for years...mostly because of sticker sentencing for those that use guns while committing crimes.
The number of guns in California has not decreased significantly.
Gun laws have not stopped anyone I know of from purchasing weapons.
I buy a gun anytime I please. It's just a matter of jumping through hoops.
If anything they (guns) have increased after every mass shooting...
Do you really think criminals fill out the paper work and wait while the back ground checks are completed? Pfffttt...
 
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Lion Eyes said:
We don't have to drill for oil period.
If we need the oil and fracking does indeed cause earthquakes, we should have the technology to fill the voids caused by fracking.
This would stop the 'caused" earth quakes...right? Maybe? We don't know?
Just think... we could then utilize this new anti earthquake technology (void filling) and stop all earth quakes.
Let's get a patent Wezzer. Whata ya say?
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I think you need to brush up on your understanding of what causes earthquakes. Hint, it ain't about filling voids....
 
Lion Eyes said:
Gun deaths have been going down for years...
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What part of this: "CA, with it's tough gun laws, has dropped gun deaths by a far greater percentage than the rest of the nation."...did you not understand?

After the beatings you've been taking, you really should start to read and comprehend before posting, it's getting silly....
 
Wez said:
If you control that which changes Climate, you logically have some control of what happens to our Climate.
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Right. Like taking a trip to Hawaii

Wez said:
If fracture drilling and the wells used when doing fracture drilling cause earthquakes and those quakes cause damage to people's property, should we continue doing it? We don't have to frac for oil.
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If...
 
Lion Eyes said:
Gun deaths have been going down for years...mostly because of sticker sentencing for those that use guns while committing crimes.
The number of guns in California has not decreased significantly.
Gun laws have not stopped anyone I know of from purchasing weapons.
I buy a gun anytime I please. It's just a matter of jumping through hoops.
If anything they (guns) have increased after every mass shooting...
Do you really think criminals fill out the paper work and wait while the back ground checks are completed? Pfffttt...
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Yeah -- if you commit a crime we put a sticker on your gun. Everybody will know what you are by that.
 
espola said:
Ah - another topic about which you have no fear of demonstrating your ignorance.
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Ignorance busting:

If you visit a modern farmer, the cab of his or her tractor or combine or truck looks like the trading desk of someone on Wall Street. There are video feeds all over the place and all kinds of information coming in. And we're experiencing a revolution called 'precision agriculture' in the same way that draft animals at one time changed agriculture, and the tractors themselves. Now the confluence of information is leading to rising yields. People thought yields might plateau; but in fact they keep going up. And they are going up even though we've stabilized or even reduced a bit some of the inputs, like fertilizers and pesticides and herbicides and water. But weather forecasts have gotten better, and we have better seeds, and we know more about the plants. So, farmers are growing more per area. And the result of that is they don't need as much area to grow the crops, the protein and calories that feed humanity. And when they don't need as much area, in fact it usually means they don't need as much water as well. So, corn is just an incredible case. Last year a farmer in Georgia named Randy Dowdy grew over 500 bushels an acre. And that's enough to feed a couple hundred people in terms of raw protein or calories for a year. It's just an astonishing achievement. And it's 3 or 4 times what the average Iowa grower does and 6 to 8 times what the average world grower does. So the headroom for improvement is still enormous in agriculture. The basic bottom line is, we may have passed the peak use of arable land for farming; in the future we can have more protein and calories, more crops to feed a somewhat larger population but using less land and probably less water and less fertilizer and less herbicide as well.--Jesse Ausubel

http://phe.rockefeller.edu/jesse/
 
Wez said:
http://www.msnbc.com/all/california-did-tough-gun-control-laws-cut

CA, with it's tough gun laws, has dropped gun deaths by a far greater percentage than the rest of the nation. Looks like the desired effect with gun controls is working.
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Dude you make it so easy when you rely on cherry picking msnbc. Gun deaths were already plunging prior to California's hitchhiking gun laws masquerading as smart and tough gun laws. The only law that appeared to have a meaningful affect was the domestic violence law of 1994.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2010/040.pdf
 
Wez said:
What part of this: "CA, with it's tough gun laws, has dropped gun deaths by a far greater percentage than the rest of the nation."...did you not understand?
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Percentages are a convenient little tool for playing down the fact that despite it's smart laws (17), California still has the highest number of gun deaths in the nation.
 
Wez said:
I think you need to brush up on your understanding of what causes earthquakes. Hint, it ain't about filling voids....
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Fine lets remove the water used/pumped into the shale that could/is causing the slipping...the point is it can be corrected.
 
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