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Here is a chart from 2021. 83% of energy is coal, petroleum or nat gas.

They didnt make huge changes between then and now in terms of energy breakdown.

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Totally worth assessing the difference between the two numbers. "50.9% of electricity" is a different question than "total energy consumption", but total energy consumption is the better question.

I suspect both are true numbers. 49% of electricity, but 83% of total energy consumption. It just implies that there is a very large amount of non-electricity energy consumption.
 
Totally worth assessing the difference between the two numbers. "50.9% of electricity" is a different question than "total energy consumption", but total energy consumption is the better question.

I suspect both are true numbers. 49% of electricity, but 83% of total energy consumption. It just implies that there is a very large amount of non-electricity energy consumption.
Your article is based upon capacity which is not a comparable metric for energy sources. Coal and oil operate much closer to capacity. Whereas, solar and wind energy rely on, sun and wind which is not consistent, or arguably reliable. Hence DH's article "Alarm on Energy". Use drives emissions, not capacity. Capacity is largely irrelevant.
 
Your article is based upon capacity which is not a comparable metric for energy sources. Coal and oil operate much closer to capacity. Whereas, solar and wind energy rely on, sun and wind which is not consistent, or arguably reliable. Hence DH's article "Alarm on Energy". Use drives emissions, not capacity. Capacity is largely irrelevant.
I prefer fuel used as the metric for fossil. Simply measuring GWh generated ignores the emissions cost of variability. (peaker plants are high emission)

Point remains that China is doing quite a bit to cut their coal dependence. Take a look at Hound’s graph. The coal line takes a significant dip.

This undercuts your claim that it is impossible to meaningfully reduce emissions. That dip in coal use is itself a meaningful reduction in emissions.
 
I prefer fuel used as the metric for fossil. Simply measuring GWh generated ignores the emissions cost of variability. (peaker plants are high emission)

Point remains that China is doing quite a bit to cut their coal dependence. Take a look at Hound’s graph. The coal line takes a significant dip.

This undercuts your claim that it is impossible to meaningfully reduce emissions. That dip in coal use is itself a meaningful reduction in emissions.
As a math teacher I thought you would understand the difference between a total gross amount and a percentage. My bad. Yes, coal is a smaller piece of the pie, but the pie keeps getting bigger, as does the increase in coal powered energy production and consumption. Which results in an increase in emissions, as opposed to a "meaningful reduction in emissions". China is up 10% in emissions over last year. That's a big increase.
 
As a math teacher I thought you would understand the difference between a total gross amount and a percentage. My bad. Yes, coal is a smaller piece of the pie, but the pie keeps getting bigger, as does the increase in coal powered energy production and consumption. Which results in an increase in emissions, as opposed to a "meaningful reduction in emissions". China is up 10% in emissions over last year. That's a big increase.
It’s a big increase, but it’s one time. Power use went up because they ended covid restrictions. You’d be hard pressed to find a less predictive number.
 
Not that facts are relevant to anyone blinded by a narrative but...


China’s coal power plant spree

China is currently the world’s biggest coal consumer and the largest greenhouse gas emitter.

According to new data released last week, China has recently gone on a “frantic permitting and construction” spree of new coal plants, which accounts for 70% of this capacity globally.

The Global Energy Monitor and the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air said that China brought 25.9 GW of coal-fired power capacity online in the first six months of 2023.

It also started construction on 37 GW of new coal power capacity, gave permission for 52 GW, announced 41 GW of new projects, and revived 8 GW of previously shelved projects.

“All of these parts of the project pipeline are currently running at a pace of more than one coal power plant per week,” the report said.

Outside China, India has the most planned coal power, while Indonesia, Japan, and Vietnam are among the few Asian countries building the world’s new coal plants.
 
It’s a big increase, but it’s one time. Power use went up because they ended covid restrictions. You’d be hard pressed to find a less predictive number
Time and time again you are so wrong.

As my charts show...China has massively increased coal usage. And as pointed out above they are building new coal power plants at an astonishing rage. That is not as you say "one time".
 
Time and time again you are so wrong.

As my charts show...China has massively increased coal usage. And as pointed out above they are building new coal power plants at an astonishing rage. That is not as you say "one time".
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Alone, it doesn't say much.

Tell me how much capacity they are decommissioning, and you'll have your answer.
Well here you go...and you wont like the answer....


Plant retirements slowed down further in 2022, with 4.1 GW of coal-fired capacity closed down in 2022, compared with 5.2 GW in 2021. Policies on closing down small and inefficient plants have been revised to keep these plants online instead as back-up or in normal operation after retrofits.Feb 27, 2023


The Global Energy Monitor and the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air said that China brought 25.9 GW of coal-fired power capacity online in the first six months of 2023.

It also started construction on 37 GW of new coal power capacity, gave permission for 52 GW, announced 41 GW of new projects, and revived 8 GW of previously shelved projects.

They are not closing down a lot of GW of power produced by coal plants BUT are adding substantially MORE capacity vs what is being closed.

There is you answer.
 
China currently has 1100 coal plants. Another 100+ have been approved and or being built.

By way of comparison the US currently has 220 plants.
China is also the largest producer of wind and solar energy. However, the development of new coal plants is far outpacing renewables. Dad4 equates developing wind/solar as replacing coal and oil. That couldn't be farther from the truth, which again, is obviously irrelevant to Dad4.

China is attacking its energy production from every angle, which is what we should do. At this point, renewables are good as backup energy, but poor as primary energy.
 
“Renewables funds see record outflows as rising rates, costs hit shares” [Reuters – 10/10/2023]

Investors ditched renewable energy funds at the fastest rate on record in the three months to end-September as cleaner energy shares took a beating from higher interest rates and soaring material costs, which are squeezing profit margins.
No, the problem isn’t “soaring material costs.” The problem is that unreliable energy sources such as wind and solar are bad investments that require government subsidies to stay operational in the best of circumstances.


“Connecticut’s biggest offshore wind project nearly dead in the water” [CT Mirror – 10/03/2023]

Connecticut’s largest offshore wind project — Park City Wind — is not quite dead in the water but is now on serious life support.
Its developer, Avangrid, announced Monday night that it and Connecticut’s utilities have terminated an agreement for the utilities to buy the power from the project. In doing so, Park City, at 804 megawatts, becomes the third major New England offshore wind project, and the second for Avangrid, to hit the shoals.
The reason for each is the same. The economy has shifted so much since the power purchase agreements, PPAs, were negotiated, that the projects are no longer viable.


Wind projects never were viable, because they never produced a single reliable kilowatt of electricity, much less at an affordable price.


“Offshore wind developers likely to cancel some contracts after New York decision” [Reuters – 10/20/2023]

Developers in the U.S. offshore wind industry will likely cancel some power sales contracts in New York after the state last week denied passing on more of the costs to consumers…

“Orsted offshore wind farm hit with lawsuit by New Jersey county; Lawsuit seeks to invalidate federal approvals for the farm” [Reuters – 10/17/2023]

A southern New Jersey county on Tuesday challenged federal approvals for a major wind farm in U.S. waters off the state's coast, saying the project’s turbines and construction will harm endangered animals like whales, kill birds and impact local tourism.
The public is starting to aggressively reject wind energy and much of the green agenda.
 
China is attacking its energy production from every angle, which is what we should do. At this point, renewables are good as backup energy, but poor as primary energy.
And because they are bad options as primary energy China is building traditional power plants. They had a drought that affected their hydro power production and caused major disruptions. They realized that you cannot rely on renewable energy as a primary source and since then have really started ramping up traditional power plants.

At some point reality will set in ....and we too will realize we need to take advantage of ALL of our energy sources. Modern society requires reliable on demand power.
 
“Renewables funds see record outflows as rising rates, costs hit shares” [Reuters – 10/10/2023]


No, the problem isn’t “soaring material costs.” The problem is that unreliable energy sources such as wind and solar are bad investments that require government subsidies to stay operational in the best of circumstances.


“Connecticut’s biggest offshore wind project nearly dead in the water” [CT Mirror – 10/03/2023]




Wind projects never were viable, because they never produced a single reliable kilowatt of electricity, much less at an affordable price.


“Offshore wind developers likely to cancel some contracts after New York decision” [Reuters – 10/20/2023]



“Orsted offshore wind farm hit with lawsuit by New Jersey county; Lawsuit seeks to invalidate federal approvals for the farm” [Reuters – 10/17/2023]


The public is starting to aggressively reject wind energy and much of the green agenda.
Darn, did the science change again?
 
Well here you go...and you wont like the answer....


Plant retirements slowed down further in 2022, with 4.1 GW of coal-fired capacity closed down in 2022, compared with 5.2 GW in 2021. Policies on closing down small and inefficient plants have been revised to keep these plants online instead as back-up or in normal operation after retrofits.Feb 27, 2023




They are not closing down a lot of GW of power produced by coal plants BUT are adding substantially MORE capacity vs what is being closed.

There is you answer.
In that case, it looks like China was trying for a while, and then stopped bothering. I don't like the answer, but there it is.

Your chart still shows a significant drop in coal as a percent of total energy use. Look at the top line in the chart on the right. It goes from around 85 down to about 55. Apparently it is possible to reduce coal dependence. China just decided that it was no longer worth the effort.


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