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Right in my backyard.

When verbage like "possible" or "may" is used it always make me wonder if they know exactly what the outcome will be but are afraid to say it.

On another note. I'm trying to make sense of the burying trees is good for the climate. Maybe trees that are dead or dying to thin out the forest.. but burying them? SMH...
 
The McDermitt Caldera on the Oregon/Nevada border mignt just hold the larger lithium deposit in the world. The question is does the US mine it? Will the EV driving populace be happy with destroying the landscape in their backyard?
 
You already know the answer to that.
There are other answers, if one backs up and asks the right question.


And this topic has already been discussed here.

 
There are other answers, if one backs up and asks the right question.


And this topic has already been discussed here.


Well let's make sure to push everyone to adjust to something that could happen. I mean, if you don't virtue signal and brow beat as a political party, how can you take full control of the masses?
 
Class is in session. The Gr8t Reveal is finally coming. Oh boy and oh joy. Get that popcorn out. We were all under some sort of hypnotism or some like to say, "we were brainwashed." Totally programmed you guys by the TELL A VISION.

Would you all like to take spin? Buckle up, the TRUTH will not be for some people.

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More news from Not The MSM.
- Roger Pielke of The Honest Broker

Last week John Kerry, the U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate, said in a speechat the New York Climate Summit:

“We're currently heading towards something like 2.4 degrees, 2.5 degrees of warming on the planet”
Let’s compare that to what Kerry said in another speech almost exactly 2 years before, in September 2021:

“Currently, as we’re talking today, we are regrettably on course to hit somewhere between 3, 4 degrees at the current rate.”
Kerry’s latest views on projected global temperature change has no doubt been informed by the latest net-zero assessment of the International Energy Agency, released to the public yesterday, which projects a median warming in 2100 under “stated policies” of ~2.4 degrees Celsius, as you can see in the figure below.

Source: IEA 2023
Kerry’s large change in outlook — from 4C to 2.5C or less — will come as no surprise to readers here, as for years I’ve been talking about the incredible shift in expectations for the future. Despite the growing recognitionthat our collective views of the future have changed quickly and dramatically, this change in perspective — a positive and encouraging one at that — has yet to feature in policy, media or scientific discussions of climate.

That silence can’t last, as reality is persistent.

A few years ago the Associated Press noted that climate scientists were promoting a new slogan:

“Every tenth of a degree matters,” is a phrase that climate scientists around the world keep repeating.
I get the sentiment — Even though the world is going to fly by the 1.5C aspirational Paris temperature target, the world should still try to limit future global warming as much as possible. I agree.

However, if indeed “every tenth of a degree matters,” then the fact that we have shed an expected 15 or 16 tenths over the past few years (i.e., 4C —> 2.4C) should be a really big deal, right?

Right now, climate influencers are in a state of dissonance, grappling with the fact that our projected climate futures have become radically less dire while still trying to promote a public stance of “global boiling.”

Here are a few ways that I’ve observed climate influencers struggling with the new context:

  • Keep the apocalypse alive. Deny the change in outlook and hold on to the possibilities that extreme climate future might yet arrive — China’s coal? Carbon cycle surprises? Unknown feedbacks? Donald Trump? Anything?
    • Reality: It is always possible to create implausible scenarios of the future and pass them off as likely. Fortunately, scenario development is a central focus of researchers, and if they have a hard time coming up with plausible scenarios leading to apocalyptic outcomes, then we should take that seriously. There is always a basis for thinking through plausible worst-case outcomes, but that does not mean that they should be prioritized in policy or public debates.
  • It’s worse than we thought. Suggest that the climate impacts that we had expected at 4C or more are now expected at 2C. So while the numbers may have changed, really nothing has changed.
    • Reality: Clever, but no. The scientific reality is that the lower the expected warming levels, the greater the challenge in separating out the signal of human-caused climate change from the background variability of the climate system. This is not my conclusion, but that of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Every tenth of a degree may matter in sloganeering, but it does not matter in climate model outcomes, particularly those that most directly affect people and ecosystems, like extreme weather. Expected climate change impacts have not all-of-a-sudden gotten worse in research.
  • Nothing to see here, move along. Just ignore the new expectations and plow ahead as we were, using RCP8.5 (or similar) as a baseline scenario to project a dramatic and scary climate future. No one will notice, TL;DR.
    • Reality: “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for” may get you out of Mos Eisley, but it is not going to defeat the Empire. Every time I see a new study or report using RCP8.5 as a baseline (which is to say, every day), I wonder, “How dumb do they think we are?” The longer the climate community ignores our changing expectations for the future, the greater the risks to the community’s credibility as people are not fools, and don’t appreciate being fooled.
There will no doubt be other strategies employed to resist acknowledging the new climate reality. I get it. Change is difficult and uncomfortable. And in this case, the change in expectations has profound implications for how we think about climate policy and politics.

But change is here. Who in the climate community is go to lead? Who will take a science-based approach to helping the world to understand, acknowledge and respond to our latest scientific understandings?

We are all waiting and watching.
 
The Great Backpedaling is Upon Us
The soft left begins its retreat from the political abyss
Doomberg

I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.” – Edgar Allan Poe

When it comes to opinions on climate change, the developed West is divided roughly into four camps, primarily as a function of political leanings. In one camp are those the media has labeled “hard right” or “climate deniers”—people who suspect climate change is a hoax used as cover to implement a global socialist agenda. On the other extreme sit those often labeled “hard left” or “climate alarmists”—people who believe the world is coming to an end, fossil fuels are to blame, and time is rapidly running out.

Not pictured: swing voters | Getty

Between this polarity sits the vast majority of citizens, sorted into what we would call the “soft right” and “soft left.” Members of the soft right generally value environmental protections but put little stock into the idea that the planet is in existential danger. They also tend to be optimistic about humanity’s ability to respond to any climate challenge in light of historical adaptations and the exponential pace of today’s technology development. Those on the soft left assign more seriousness to the climate crisis, vote for candidates who promote environmental causes, and are ready to make lifestyle changes—to drive an electric vehicle, perhaps install solar panels on their roofs, and dutifully sort their trash to separate recyclables—in an eagerness to do their part.

We have long suspected that the soft left is only willing to go so far in this regard, reasonably drawing a line to shield their standard of living. This group is now aware of the Big Lie™ sold by climate alarmists — that we can radically reduce our use of fossil fuels without meaningfully impacting our lifestyles. It was fine enough to play footsie with such assumptions when energy was plentiful and interest rates hovered around zero, but as the energy crisis unfolded and inflationary pressures took hold, the initial consequences of decoupling from fossil fuels left many quietly wondering what exactly it is they signed up for.

Political cracks are beginning the appear in the left-leaning alliance, a group that has been the governing force in the West for much of the past two decades, and as the soft left shuffles to center, we expect reactionary fireworks from the alarmists. For early signs of leaks in the dam, we turn to the UK where the Conservative Party—charter members of the soft left—are leading the retreat back to reality (emphasis added throughout):

Rishi Sunak on Wednesday ignited a business backlash and a Conservative civil war on the environment as he announced a series of U-turns on critical targets to tackle climate change. The UK prime minister pushed back a ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030 to 2035 in a delay that is strongly opposed by some carmakers…
Sunak also relaxed the 2035 phaseout target for the installation of new gas boilers by introducing an exemption for the most hard-pressed households so they will ‘never have to switch at all.’
Sunak goes on to helpfully explain that “governments of all stripes have not been honest about the cost and trade-offs,” that the drive for Net Zero would impose “unacceptable costs on hard-pressed British families,” and that “we’re not going to save the planet by bankrupting the British people.” It’s almost as if he reads Doomberg. A perusal of 30 years’ worth of UK inflation data contextualizes Sunak’s newfound appreciation for physics:



The UK’s walk back from the cliff was followed swiftly by a similar retrenchment on the part of Sweden’s ruling party and comes on the heels of Canada’s reacceptance of nuclear power, the Biden administration’s active management of the oil markets with the expressed intent of lowering prices, the rightward tilt of the German electorate, and angst among the climate alarmists over the upcoming United Nations COP-28 annual gathering. Call us crazy, but we are sensing a pattern.
It was inevitable that the relentless assault against fossil fuels would manifest in economic hardship for the lower and middle classes, and as the Northern Hemisphere heads into winter, it is once again rolling the dice on energy policy. This time the signs of crisis are emerging in a vital commodity that, unlike natural gas, has no substitutes. The market for middle distillates like diesel and heating oil is showing real signs of stress, especially on a seasonally adjusted basis, leaving an opening for our geopolitical opponents to drive a polarizing wedge into our domestic politics.
Might an acute crisis in this all-important but often underappreciated corner of the commodity markets accelerate the demise of the political power held by climate alarmists? Will they go down without a fight, or—as we expect—flame out rather than fade away? Let’s take a tour of the global markets for refined fuels and find out...

 
Same with COVID lockdowns and school closings. Elites suffer from a toxic amalgamation of myopic perspectives, illusions of control, paternalism, authoritarianism, and cowardice. I'm sure the CCP approves of the methods the elites use here in the US.
The Elites will soon be the Delites!!!
 
You simply ooze insecurity and a child like grievance fixation for your own personal shortcomings.
You simply ooze EOTL and Surfubol. You're the only one on here that complains about Crush, his short comings, Q and MAGA! What a complete moron you have become, lol!
 
You simply ooze EOTL and Surfubol. You're the only one on here that complains about Crush, his short comings, Q and MAGA! What a complete moron you have become, lol!
E has you blocked and everyone else in here is you or is sympathetic to/shares your self inflicted misery.
 
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