Climate and Weather

Adaptation costs money, too. Can you imagine how much it would cost to build 3m dikes for every coastal city on earth? Or move the cities uphill?

Then even after you build all your dikes or move the coastal cities, some of your cities get too hot to live. You’ll need to move the hotter inland desert cities, too.

Even after you finish moving Riyadh and Kolkata, you‘re still not done. Every time you add another 100ppm of CO2, your semi-arid cities get too hot, and you need to move them as well.

This is not sounding like the cheaper option.
Green new deal was an attempt to use “green” as a marketing gimmick for a whole Christmas tree of ideas. Don’t count me as a fan.

I’d rather just focus on power generation and personal transportation. Start building nuclear, wind, and solar installations. As you turn them on, start turning off our coal plants.
First post I've read from you that I believe you didn’t Google. I agree with most of it but I need to ask. How much do you know about wind generated power and the consequences, both intended or not.
 
Fair enough.

Fact your 100ppm rise in CO2 will make cities unlivable is not based on any real data.
Manmade global warming being catastrophic is a theory and unproven
Models used by scientists today are in their infancy and have difficulty even retroactively explaining past climate

What PROOF do you have that warming will be catastrophic?
Why do you only focus on 1 potential outcome offered up by the theory.

Outside of the climate changing and getting warmer...what FACT do we know with certainly will happen in 2100?
Some cities. Not all cities. Riyadh is getting close. Cairo is cooler, but will have trouble because slums are hard to air condition. Phoenix has quite a while.

Why do I focus on sea level? Because it’s the hardest to deny. Even you have to admit that snow and ice melt in warm weather.

Are there other impacts? Sure. But I have no reason to believe that bringing them up would result in an honest discussion, so I go for the one you can’t pretend doesn’t exist.
 
And speaking of sea level. About 27% of the Netherlands is below sea level. They started reclaiming land from the see in the 1500s...using of course that technology.

If you dont think in the modern world we can protect cities from a gradual rise in sea level...then you really are just fear mongering dad. The US gov predicts the sea will be 1-2 feet higher by 2100. That is vastly different from publications showing Central Park underwater.

I lay money that dealing with that level of rise is not much of a technical challenge...since we have been doing this stuff since at least the 1500s...see the Netherlands for an example.
 
Adaptation costs money, too. Can you imagine how much it would cost to build 3m dikes for every coastal city on earth? Or move the cities uphill?

Then even after you build all your dikes or move the coastal cities, some of your cities get too hot to live. You’ll need to move the hotter inland desert cities, too.



This is not sounding like the cheaper option.
Now you sound like Richard. Every coastal city.. a bit of hyperbole.

I'm thinking that Palos Verdes here in Socal would be just fine. Maybe Malibu as well?

Your friends over at NOAA are predicting the oceans will rise 1/8" per year. Maybe more of a lead by example is in order to show people how it's done instead of do as I say and not as I do. Not much faith in that.

So wind. What's the plan for all the used blades? That's a problem. Yea, you might want to look up what a take permit is, just in case your a fan of endangered species. Maybe sometime in the future two guys will be debating on what caused the extinction of eagles.
 
And speaking of sea level. About 27% of the Netherlands is below sea level. They started reclaiming land from the see in the 1500s...using of course that technology.

If you dont think in the modern world we can protect cities from a gradual rise in sea level...then you really are just fear mongering dad. The US gov predicts the sea will be 1-2 feet higher by 2100. That is vastly different from publications showing Central Park underwater.

I lay money that dealing with that level of rise is not much of a technical challenge...since we have been doing this stuff since at least the 1500s...see the Netherlands for an example.
NOAA predicts an 1/8" rise per year. So what's the plan. No more cows? No more Dogs? No more flying? Remember the energy crisis of the 70s? Getting gas based on your license plate? Doom and gloom..right? So do we fly based on our last name and only are allowed to have minature breeds and cats?
 
Now you sound like Richard. Every coastal city.. a bit of hyperbole.

I'm thinking that Palos Verdes here in Socal would be just fine. Maybe Malibu as well?

Your friends over at NOAA are predicting the oceans will rise 1/8" per year. Maybe more of a lead by example is in order to show people how it's done instead of do as I say and not as I do. Not much faith in that.

So wind. What's the plan for all the used blades? That's a problem. Yea, you might want to look up what a take permit is, just in case your a fan of endangered species. Maybe sometime in the future two guys will be debating on what caused the extinction of eagles.
Tell you what. Let's compare my plan for used windmill blades to your plan for the heavy metals in coal smoke.

The windmill blades go in landfills. The mercury bioaccumulates in seafood so we can eat it.

Which is worse?
 
Tell you what. Let's compare my plan for used windmill blades to your plan for the heavy metals in coal smoke.

The windmill blades go in landfills. The mercury bioaccumulates in seafood so we can eat it.

Which is worse?
Let's compare your plan three years ago regarding mask dad. Your plan killed people and now you want us to look at your windmill blades plan.
 
"Opps, I left out the truth."

California scientist says he ‘left out the full truth’ to get climate change wildfire study published (you do whatever you have to do to get your money)

These whack jobs make sh*t up and hope the earth cooks us all in 10 years. They will even start forest fires to prove their lie is true. I dealt with these science liars in grade school. They lie and make money lying about God, babies and the earth.


1694267169044.png
 
Tell you what. Let's compare my plan for used windmill blades to your plan for the heavy metals in coal smoke.

The windmill blades go in landfills. The mercury bioaccumulates in seafood so we can eat it.

Which is worse?
That's a lot of landfills. I guess we can ship them off to all those lithium mines and have em' bury them there after the kids are done digging.

Since you posted about mercury being a by product of burning coal, and I agree it is an issue, can you tell me exactly how much of a problem it is. Not a precentage.. no. Give me an actual amount of mercury being spewed into the atmosphere, that is then showing up in the seafood we eat. Oh..and make sure it's from a plant that uses Bromine.

Did you look up what a take permit is yet? Does that qualify as "killing" time?
 
Well folks, it looks like we got two teams to choose from. We see what Team Expola, Husker and Dad stand for. They don't care about folks like me. They care for Ukrainians over me. They want me to take jabs, wear a mask when told and STFU or get fired, lose my ability to make a living so I too could buy food, shelter and clothing for my family. They want me to change how I live so the weather & climate won't change and just stay 78 degrees every day. They want to talk our boys into cutting off their penis and they want our girls to mutilate their breast. They want me to submit to their bullshit way of life and their PAY-FOR-PLAY scams and 100% support their 2030 Agenda of the Great Reset. These people are not only stupid, their evil. Many of you were purchased by these assholes and you didn't even know it. They got you by the balls. However, they lost. You can NOT change Mother Earth. Mother is pissed off at the men on earth and the men on earth have mother wounds. The other choice is Trump. Oh boy, who should I pick? Who will help my man Crush more, Trump or Surf Futbol and his crew? Who will protect the birth of babies? Who will help seek retribution, revenge and Justice on these liars and cheats? I'm going with MAGA 2024 by a long shot. The other team has Sleepy Joe. Newsome is out. Michele might jump in to the Dem race if Joe never wakes up from his nap. Choose wisely my Fellow Americans.


1694275213968.png
 
Can it supplant 50%?
The thing that most dont understand is that you have to have reliable baseload power. So that means when you have solar and windmills you still have to have traditional plants. Not only do we have to have those plants...but they have to be running. You cannot just turn them on or off when the solar or wind is working. So with solar and wind...we are still using traditional power plants and emitting pollution.
 
We've probably all seen this reflective solar farm. Crazy technology, but it vaporizes birds.

 
We've probably all seen this reflective solar farm. Crazy technology, but it vaporizes birds.

Yep. That's just solar. Every alternative energy source comes with a price.
 
Worse? Thinking that windmills and solar can effectively provide the on demand baseload power a society needs.
Don't be silly. Solar is for handling mid day peaks when all the A/C is on.

What you're talking about is energy storage. Not just batteries. Things like paired reservoir hydropower. Or car chargers which turn themselves on and off in response to utility needs. (Not pie in the sky anymore. I got an ad for one last week.)

Did you actually think you're the only one in the world who knows that it's dark at night? Yes, we are aware.
 
Don't be silly. Solar is for handling mid day peaks when all the A/C is on.

What you're talking about is energy storage. Not just batteries. Things like paired reservoir hydropower. Or car chargers which turn themselves on and off in response to utility needs. (Not pie in the sky anymore. I got an ad for one last week.)

Did you actually think you're the only one in the world who knows that it's dark at night? Yes, we are aware.
Today's curves --

 
Don't be silly. Solar is for handling mid day peaks when all the A/C is on.

What you're talking about is energy storage. Not just batteries. Things like paired reservoir hydropower. Or car chargers which turn themselves on and off in response to utility needs. (Not pie in the sky anymore. I got an ad for one last week.)

Did you actually think you're the only one in the world who knows that it's dark at night? Yes, we are aware.
While I believe batteries can be part of the equation, it basically makes us China's bitch. As far as hydroelectric goes, we're removing dams not building them and dams are incredibly environmentally damaging, particularly to water quality. So again it comes back to nuclear.
 
Back
Top