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Wait. Am I on LSD? I'm hallucinating that a couple of yokels on a kids' soccer blog are taking themselves quite seriously in "modeling" their own climate change studies. This is too good. Hey fellas, create fission energy while you're at it! Are you in dress-up while you do this? Do you have little toy Nobel prizes to give each other?
 
Wait. Am I on LSD? I'm hallucinating that a couple of yokels on a kids' soccer blog are taking themselves quite seriously in "modeling" their own climate change studies. This is too good. Hey fellas, create fission energy while you're at it! Are you in dress-up while you do this? Do you have little toy Nobel prizes to give each other?
EG did all the work, and its a neat little mirror image thumbnail of the big picture.
Im just a plumber who denies the science.

He gets the prize. (I have no idea if you're on LSD or not, but wouldnt surprise me either way)
 
Actually, you agree with me as well.
Your exercise was started with the thread, and my observation is related specifically to that.
"Since the beginning of the thread", what we see so far, is cooling.
Thats all.

Your follow ups are excellent examples of what happens with modeling future climate patterns off of a short term data set.

Except that one is from running models based on good science, demonstrable mathematics, and best available data, and the other is because it's what my twitter master told me to do.
 
I agree with E its just coming off the 2016 El Nino maximum. But lets crank it through as a trend. You know, just in case we're transitioning from one forcing regime into a new cooling cycle. That sort of idea. And if it's a trend let's see what sort of legs you're willing to give it. Because it gets pretty grim pretty quick.

To put numbers on it each data point in the 2016 cycle is connected to the corresponding point in the following cycle. That defines 11 corresponding sets of points we can pair up using as many points as possible since the the beginning of the thread. The average of those 11 slopes is ~-0.25°C/yr. Given what we have to work with your trend can only be projected as a constant linear forcing variable. So we'll call that Fandango's coefficient.

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Is there corresponding data from 100 years ago and then 200 and more..?
Because if there isn't the graph window is not relevant for a long term
projection. It's just a hypothesis based on a very very small slice of data.
Second point, if the calibration on the instruments from 100 years past and then
200 years and more in the past do not match ( which we know they don't ! ) then
it can only be a guess on the numbers and projections.
Third point, 100 years past and 200 years past do NOT give a spread of data that
can accurately show climate data predictions 100 and 200 years going forward....
( Instrument calibration is again the factor. A Big Factor. )
It's just a Hypothesis at best....
Human expansion on the planet is a factor, but not at all an item to support the false
premises that the Radical Climatologists have used to sell a Criminal Carbon Tax on
Large and small Nations.

Just an Observation/Opinion.....That's all.
 
Seems that saddling our grandchildren with an insurmountable debt or a rotting planet is of no concern during Republican rule. Make that cash while you can before the resources dwindle.
 
Seems that saddling our grandchildren with an insurmountable debt or a rotting planet is of no concern during Republican rule. Make that cash while you can before the resources dwindle.
From the brain of a moron....
The national debt under BHO grew by just under 90%...
$10,699,805,000,000 to $19,970,000,000,000
Richard Nixon created the EPA.
 
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Fannie & Freddie and the Democrats played the biggest role...but you know that.

I think I get you - the debt runup during O's term is the President's fault, but the debt runup during w's term is the Democrats' fault. Is that it?

BTW - your inability to detect your own hypocrisy is one of the reasons you can't fool anybody.
 
I think I get you - the debt runup during O's term is the President's fault, but the debt runup during w's term is the Democrats' fault. Is that it?

BTW - your inability to detect your own hypocrisy is one of the reasons you can't fool anybody.
No jack ass you you don't get it...I'm not trying to fool anyone.
I was pointing out to the Duck that singling out a party as he did was ludicrous.
Your inability to comprehend simple facts and your ability to read into statements things that are not there and were never indicated is the main reason you are such a horses ass...you definitely don't get it, haven't for quite sometime and is why you have earned the Magoo moniker.
Got it?
 
No jack ass you you don't get it...I'm not trying to fool anyone.
I was pointing out to the Duck that singling out a party as he did was ludicrous.
Your inability to comprehend simple facts and your ability to read into statements things that are not there and were never indicated is the main reason you are such a horses ass...you definitely don't get it, haven't for quite sometime and is why you have earned the Magoo moniker.
Got it?

I understand you perfectly. Singling out a party only makes sense if the Democrats are the target.
 
Wait. Am I on LSD?

I hope you know. Its either the absolute worst or most perfect time for hallucinogenics. Raoul Duke could probably help sort that out, but they're still scrubbing the back of his head off a wall in Aspen.

I'm hallucinating that a couple of yokels on a kids' soccer blog are taking themselves quite seriously in "modeling" their own climate change studies. This is too good. Hey fellas, create fission energy while you're at it! Are you in dress-up while you do this? Do you have little toy Nobel prizes to give each other?

For the rest, I'd quibble with you on several things. First, "model" is used in different ways in different fields. For climate science, at this point, "model" should probably be restricted to climate representations derived solely from first principles, like the computer modeling underlying the IPCC projections. So the stuff here isn't really modeling in terms of where the climate filed is at. Just data projection. Second, I'd argue a soccer forum is great place for a climate thread. There are a number of angles. I think an important one, for instance, is that scientists are catagorized as "elitists" not because they put themselves out there as such, but simply because more and more of the public is choosing to turn away from even a basic understanding of the technological world in which they live. They have abdicated that role, and are therefore easy to cynically manipulate. The evidence is all around us. Third, since you brought it up, it would be interesting to hear your views on a compare and contrast between students that become Nobel prize winners and the small percentage of kids in a sport that become professional athletes. You know, the ones that love to play and are willing to run their lungs out.
 
I understand you perfectly. Singling out a party only makes sense if the Democrats are the target.

You don't understand shit Magoo...facts are facts you pompous ass.
I responded to a guy who was singling out one party....
When partisan hacks make asinine & derogatory statements based on ignorance like the Duck just made against Republicans and I point out that the Democrats are just as "guilty" you get all bent and say haha see Lion is a conservative...No shit ya fucking genius...
Tell me cabin boy, are you buying and defending the statement below?
"Seems that saddling our grandchildren with an insurmountable debt or a rotting planet is of no concern during Republican rule. Make that cash while you can before the resources dwindle."
 
You don't understand shit Magoo...facts are facts you pompous ass.
I responded to a guy who was singling out one party....
When partisan hacks make asinine & derogatory statements based on ignorance like the Duck just made against Republicans and I point out that the Democrats are just as "guilty" you get all bent and say haha see Lion is a conservative...No shit ya fucking genius...
Tell me cabin boy, are you buying and defending the statement below?
"Seems that saddling our grandchildren with an insurmountable debt or a rotting planet is of no concern during Republican rule. Make that cash while you can before the resources dwindle."

It's true right now.
 
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