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Sheriff Joe said:
The ACA is adding to that number, so yeah, we are talking about it.
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No, it doesn't.

"It lowers the budget deficit by $143 billion by 2022. It does this in three ways. First, it reduces the government's health care costs. Second, it raises taxes on some businesses and higher income families. Third, it shifts cost burdens to health care providers and pharmacy companies. (Source: "CBO Report on Health Care Reform and the Budget," Congressional Budget Office. "What Health Insurance Ruling Means," The Wall Street Journal, June 28, 2012. "Medicaid Expansion," National Public Radio, June 27, 2012.)"
 
Bruddah IZ said:
So the main problem remained, making things better than they were. Got it.
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Exactly. If your main problem in life is your stupid but you're also fat and you cure the fatness, you're still better off being just stupid than stupid and fat. See how that works?
 
Lion Eyes said:
They still won't pay taxes...
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Good point, I meant for those in the lowest brackets that do actually pay taxes but it splitting hairs, the proposed reforms are all about helping the rich.

I'm not a rich basher, I hope to be one someday...
 
Wez said:
No, it doesn't.

"It lowers the budget deficit by $143 billion by 2022. It does this in three ways. First, it reduces the government's health care costs. Second, it raises taxes on some businesses and higher income families. Third, it shifts cost burdens to health care providers and pharmacy companies. (Source: "CBO Report on Health Care Reform and the Budget," Congressional Budget Office. "What Health Insurance Ruling Means," The Wall Street Journal, June 28, 2012. "Medicaid Expansion," National Public Radio, June 27, 2012.)"
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You are high, why are the insurance companies bailing?
 
Sheriff Joe said:
GAO Report: Obamacare Adds $6.2 Trillion to Long-Term Deficit
www.nationalreview.com/.../gao-report-obamacare-adds-62-trillion-long-term-deficit-...
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Wez said:
Let's cut out the middleman:

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752

"CBO and JCT estimate that, over the 2017-2026 period, enacting H.R. 1628 would reduce direct spending by $1,111 billion and reduce revenues by $992 billion, for a net reduction of $119 billion in the deficit over that period."
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Wez said:
Exactly. If your main problem in life is your stupid but you're also fat and you cure the fatness, you're still better off being just stupid than stupid and fat. See how that works?
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So the main problem is that ACA didn't fix stupid or we wouldn't have ACA according to Gruber.
 
Wez said:
No, it doesn't.

"It lowers the budget deficit by $143 billion by 2022. It does this in three ways. First, it reduces the government's health care costs. Second, it raises taxes on some businesses and higher income families. Third, it shifts cost burdens to health care providers and pharmacy companies. (Source: "CBO Report on Health Care Reform and the Budget," Congressional Budget Office. "What Health Insurance Ruling Means," The Wall Street Journal, June 28, 2012. "Medicaid Expansion," National Public Radio, June 27, 2012.)"
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That's a BIG FAT LIE !

First, it reduces the government's health care costs.
They passed the cost on.

Second, it raises taxes on some businesses and higher income families.
Here's where part of the costs got passed too.

Third, it shifts cost burdens to health care providers and pharmacy companies.
Here's where the other costs went.

 
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