CFA? (girls side)

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HarryHotspuds

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Hey everyone,

We’re moving to South OC next month and looking for a new club for my daughter. She’s currently on a top 2016 team at a large club in the southeast. In my research I came across CFA which is enticing since we will be south county. Only issue is, I’ve never heard of them before.

Anyone have any insight? From what I can see that field pretty solid flight 2/3 teams in the younger ages, but there isn’t much going on at the older ages?

We aren’t against trekking up to Irvine for one of the bigger clubs, but staying south county at least at first sounds pretty nice. Ive also been looking at West Coast but it seems like the girls side has been struggling a bit?
 
HarryHotspuds said:
Hey everyone,

We’re moving to South OC next month and looking for a new club for my daughter. She’s currently on a top 2016 team at a large club in the southeast. In my research I came across CFA which is enticing since we will be south county. Only issue is, I’ve never heard of them before.

Anyone have any insight? From what I can see that field pretty solid flight 2/3 teams in the younger ages, but there isn’t much going on at the older ages?

We aren’t against trekking up to Irvine for one of the bigger clubs, but staying south county at least at first sounds pretty nice. Ive also been looking at West Coast but it seems like the girls side has been struggling a bit?
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If you're are looking for the highest level of play for your DD, go to a club with ECNL or GA pipeline. It's not impossible but it is much harder, to get on those teams later.
 
Objective said:
If you're are looking for the highest level of play for your DD, go to a club with ECNL or GA pipeline. It's not impossible but it is much harder, to get on those teams later.
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CFA has GA Aspire now (think GA 2nd tier) if they do well in the league there's a very good chance they'll be promoted to GA in the future.

I'd recommend the best coach, with a club that practices and plays as close to your house as possible. This might not sound like that big of a deal at first. But after 6 months of 1hour each way commutes just to play on a super team you'll understand why.
 
This is 100% right......I'd recommend the best coach, with a club that practices and plays as close to your house as possible.

A league does not make a club, dont be fooled. #givennotearned
 
Carlsbad7 said:
CFA has GA Aspire now (think GA 2nd tier) if they do well in the league there's a very good chance they'll be promoted to GA in the future.

I'd recommend the best coach, with a club that practices and plays as close to your house as possible. This might not sound like that big of a deal at first. But after 6 months of 1hour each way commutes just to play on a super team you'll understand why.
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I think this is important and sage advice... but, to Objective's point, there's a short window of going from what makes sense to where you need to be, at the right time, if she wants to play in college. Formulate that plan now or, at the very least, make sure you're in a position to make that move when the opportunity strikes.
 
Objective said:
If you're are looking for the highest level of play for your DD, go to a club with ECNL or GA pipeline. It's not impossible but it is much harder, to get on those teams later.
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That hasn't been my experience. I've seen many examples of worthy players being grabbed by ECNL/GA clubs from smaller clubs as late as U12 routinely and then sparingly after that. If she can ball, they will take her. My thoughts on whether the drive is worth it would be: do the longer drive only if there is an appreciable difference in the coaching and/or "vibe" of the teams. For 2016s, you have a ways to go before worrying about getting the correct patch on her shoulder. Find a coach that believes in her and from whom you can see some real coaching - not just recruiting of the best players and doing boot ball to win games. But get other opinions, maybe my experience is an outlier. ?
 
HarryHotspuds said:
Hey everyone,

We’re moving to South OC next month and looking for a new club for my daughter. She’s currently on a top 2016 team at a large club in the southeast. In my research I came across CFA which is enticing since we will be south county. Only issue is, I’ve never heard of them before.

Anyone have any insight? From what I can see that field pretty solid flight 2/3 teams in the younger ages, but there isn’t much going on at the older ages?

We aren’t against trekking up to Irvine for one of the bigger clubs, but staying south county at least at first sounds pretty nice. Ive also been looking at West Coast but it seems like the girls side has been struggling a bit?
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They are a growing club and have been around for awhile.

The cost is a 1/3 of the big clubs, the coaching is just as good (development focus), fields are average at best, but they are local.
I have had a good experience with the club. My DD can play 7-8 tournaments a year/socal spring league/fall league and state cup for almost nothing. If your kid balls hard then you can move to a bigger club the year ECNL starts. I have found that coaches like the new girls that THEY recruit from the smaller clubs.
 
CFA's girls side is on the rise for sure. They have GA A now and some solid second teams. U19s qualified for the DPL National Championships this year in June. They have 5 2016 teams for the fall - Flight 1, 2x2, 3x2 (likely).
 
CFA DPL STANDING (16 teams)
2012 - 10th
2011 - 8th
2010 - 13th
2009 - 8th
2008 - 11th
2006/07 - 1st

They have played all their games in the DPL for the 24/25 aside from there GRADUATING TEAM 2006/07 they are on the bottom half of the table in all the other age groups.....

Why were they promoted to ASPIRE? Seems as the standards are low
 
It's all relative. For 2016G's (as referenced in the first post) - CFA's top team has the #33 spot in state, which puts them in the 91st percentile among competitive soccer teams. Not one of the "superteams", but it's certainly respectable - and would beat over 90% of the teams out there. Their 3rd-tier team for 2016G's is 7 full goals weaker. The better the older teams start to do, the more kids stay put, and the rankings improve - and I'm sure the club's hope is that they go from Aspire to full GA. It might not be the reason one moves cross-country to join a specific club - but if the commute, logistics, coaching, and every other factor fits what your looking for - you could do a heck of alot worse.
 
RandomSoccerFan said:
It's all relative. For 2016G's (as referenced in the first post) - CFA's top team has the #33 spot in state, which puts them in the 91st percentile among competitive soccer teams. Not one of the "superteams", but it's certainly respectable - and would beat over 90% of the teams out there. Their 3rd-tier team for 2016G's is 7 full goals weaker. The better the older teams start to do, the more kids stay put, and the rankings improve - and I'm sure the club's hope is that they go from Aspire to full GA. It might not be the reason one moves cross-country to join a specific club - but if the commute, logistics, coaching, and every other factor fits what your looking for - you could do a heck of alot worse.
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The one aspect that the ranking app doesn't cover is number of participating clubs within the primary clubs ecosystem.

CFA is like Legends or Surf or City and has a lot of feeder clubs which should equate to a higher level top team if talent is being pushed up.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
The one aspect that the ranking app doesn't cover is number of participating clubs within the primary clubs ecosystem.

CFA is like Legends or Surf or City and has a lot of feeder clubs which should equate to a higher level top team if talent is being pushed up.
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I didn't define any specific club in any specific order. The result is the same. A wider net translates to a higher level top team if everyone is on the same page and pushing talent up to the next level.
 
RandomSoccerFan said:
It's all relative. For 2016G's (as referenced in the first post) - CFA's top team has the #33 spot in state, which puts them in the 91st percentile among competitive soccer teams. Not one of the "superteams", but it's certainly respectable - and would beat over 90% of the teams out there. Their 3rd-tier team for 2016G's is 7 full goals weaker. The better the older teams start to do, the more kids stay put, and the rankings improve - and I'm sure the club's hope is that they go from Aspire to full GA. It might not be the reason one moves cross-country to join a specific club - but if the commute, logistics, coaching, and every other factor fits what your looking for - you could do a heck of alot worse.
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Really, 2016 RANKINGS? Oh my days.....
 
zags77 said:
CFA DPL STANDING (16 teams)
2012 - 10th
2011 - 8th
2010 - 13th
2009 - 8th
2008 - 11th
2006/07 - 1st
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Researches 6 pages of standings brackets and posts results...

zags77 said:
Really, 2016 RANKINGS? Oh my days.....
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Yet is dismayed by looking at game results on a screen. The OP is joining a 2016 team - it makes more sense to see how a 2016 team may be performing in Flight 1 than those a few years removed from that age in the club, even if they are indicative as well.
 
RandomSoccerFan said:
Researches 6 pages of standings brackets and posts results...



Yet is dismayed by looking at game results on a screen. The OP is joining a 2016 team - it makes more sense to see how a 2016 team may be performing in Flight 1 than those a few years removed from that age in the club, even if they are indicative as well.
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Its not hard to find and took less than 2 minutes...

2016 are finishing their 1st or 2nd of playing and that should be a data point vs 11v11 results?

Again and we wonder why are so far behind the world....
 
zags77 said:
CFA DPL STANDING (16 teams)
2012 - 10th
2011 - 8th
2010 - 13th
2009 - 8th
2008 - 11th
2006/07 - 1st

They have played all their games in the DPL for the 24/25 aside from there GRADUATING TEAM 2006/07 they are on the bottom half of the table in all the other age groups.....

Why were they promoted to ASPIRE? Seems as the standards are low
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in a 16 team league, 8th place would be in the top half. So three teams in the top half, 3 in the bottom. Plus a #1 team and those in the bottom half are pretty high up. Fair to say most teams are right in the middle of the pack on average other than their #1 team. Lots to be proud of, CFA!
 
TopesWin said:
in a 16 team league, 8th place would be in the top half. So three teams in the top half, 3 in the bottom. Plus a #1 team and those in the bottom half are pretty high up. Fair to say most teams are right in the middle of the pack on average other than their #1 team. Lots to be proud of, CFA!
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Definately a half full kind of guy are you? Can hear the chants of WE'RE #8! WE'RE #8!

They are done with league play so they will drop down as many clubs still have 2 or 3 games to play.

Will update when the dust settles....between the #33 ranked 2016 team, the 3 teams in 8th and #1 legit 2006/07 team they definitely have high Aspirations!
 
TopesWin said:
in a 16 team league, 8th place would be in the top half. So three teams in the top half, 3 in the bottom. Plus a #1 team and those in the bottom half are pretty high up. Fair to say most teams are right in the middle of the pack on average other than their #1 team. Lots to be proud of, CFA!
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I'd say it's more about CFA having multiple locations + now they won't have talent recruited away after initial development and identification.
 
zags77 said:
Definately a half full kind of guy are you? Can hear the chants of WE'RE #8! WE'RE #8!

They are done with league play so they will drop down as many clubs still have 2 or 3 games to play.

Will update when the dust settles....between the #33 ranked 2016 team, the 3 teams in 8th and #1 legit 2006/07 team they definitely have high Aspirations!
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I am, yes, but it's also just math.
 
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