chargerfan
GOLD
we live in strange times when someone is defending having an elementary school student cross state lines on a weekly basis to play soccer, and promoting them on Instagram like they are a client and not their child.
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we live in strange times when someone is defending having an elementary school student cross state lines on a weekly basis to play soccer, and promoting them on Instagram like they are a client and not their child.
It's not that uncommon...see LaVar Ball
Agree and it's accepted. That is why I asked MAP about it and what she thought because to the logical individual promotion/marketing of a ten year old is odd. Maybe I am missing something?
This is SOCAL- many many friends have children participating in Lax, water polo, and volleyball at the National and Jr Olympic level and I have NEVER seen the level of self promotion and insanity that I do in club soccer. Additionally it seems to be motivated by a special group of snake oil salesmen- the "trainers" and "speed trainers" and "performance specialists".
I am actually appalled at the types of excercises I see being promoted for ten year old girls.
Also to be the devils advocate here...
The "hype" some families stir up about their kids actually helps them. It's helpful because sorry but these coaches are easily manipulated by these alpha families who are instagram, have multiple follows, bring their kid out to every single guesting chance they can, film every goal and "happen to put it on Facebook". We all know these families and we have all seem a marginal player suddenly have "interest" because a family cut and spliced her fragile career into a nice Facebook video set to rap music.
Some families play the game and "market" their child to multiple clubs and go for the best deal. That's fine I don't begrudge it. I also don't normalize it though and that's the subtle distinction. Just as the DA has placed limits on certain things I would assume as soon as someone became DA (a year from now) that they would not be able to participate unless their own geographic Da Came into play. I also do believe that certain things aka trainings will be noted since they are in full public view.
The "hype" some families stir up about their kids actually helps them. It's helpful because sorry but these coaches are easily manipulated by these alpha families who are instagram, have multiple follows, bring their kid out to every single guesting chance they can, film every goal and "happen to put it on Facebook". We all know these families and we have all seem a marginal player suddenly have "interest" because a family cut and spliced her fragile career into a nice Facebook video set to rap music.
Some families play the game and "market" their child to multiple clubs and go for the best deal. That's fine I don't begrudge it. I also don't normalize it though and that's the subtle distinction. Just as the DA has placed limits on certain things I would assume as soon as someone became DA (a year from now) that they would not be able to participate unless their own geographic Da Came into play. I also do believe that certain things aka trainings will be noted since they are in full public view.
It will be interesting to see if ME is willing to lie like BW did for this kid by allowing her to use a CA address to make her eligible for things like ODP, CRL, DA etc.
chargerfan
GOLD
I am curious as to what other pediatricians have said about these types of workouts? I asked ours before my girl did a speed and agility session with her team a few years back. She said it was fine if only once a week, and not done consistently throughout the year. She said children don't really need those kinds of intense workouts, and can lead to damage especially during the growth years. For that reason, we only do these trainings when her team does it 1-2 mths each year, once a week. has anyone else gotten the same, or different, advice?
chargerfan
GOLD
I am not the parent you are referring to, even though I know them well and yes our daughters have played/play together. @Striker17 is the only person I know "outside" the forum, and she can attest that I am not.
You can look through all my old posts and you will never see me attack a child, particularly in the way you just did to two very sweet, hardworking girls. I enjoy pointing out the outlandishness I see in the competitive soccer world, but I would never NEVER do anything but heap praise on a particular child in a public forum . Shame on you for obviously taking a personal beef you have with those parents and turning it into a bashing of two young girls on a public forum. Disgusting.
You can look through all my old posts and you will never see me attack a child, particularly in the way you just did to two very sweet, hardworking girls. I enjoy pointing out the outlandishness I see in the competitive soccer world, but I would never NEVER do anything but heap praise on a particular child in a public forum . Shame on you for obviously taking a personal beef you have with those parents and turning it into a bashing of two young girls on a public forum. Disgusting.
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Someone isn't a "hater" or "jealous" because they bring up an intelligent conversation and concern. It is possible to bring up future issues related to DA without being a "hater". For the record you are also off in the identity so you may want to remove the persons name who you decided to blast because that is not who it is.
We are discussing high intensity work outs followed by cryo and massage. I would suggest you do your research before mouthing off.
We are discussing high intensity work outs followed by cryo and massage. I would suggest you do your research before mouthing off.
chargerfan
GOLD
Just like I said - striker17 can verify I am not that parent. I can tell you if came on here talking about my daughter like that, game over. Although I considering asking that family who would post such a thing so I can join them in confronting you and in a public way. You obviously have no class.
chargerfan
GOLD
And I am a skeptical person by nature. That's who I am and it's needed in my line of work. I enjoy being the devils advocate. If it bothers you to the point that you feel the need to attack 12 year old girls, maybe just "ignore" me.
padresonthepitch
BRONZE
My mistake, I've asked for the last name to be removed. I was not referring to the 2 girls you're referring to, no beef at all with their parents. I'm not going to blast names again, but I'm referring to you chargerfan. You certainly aren't one PRAISING children on a public forum. My post is to state that you are no stellar parent, you have no room to talk about others and their choices. Like I said, if you're going to dish it you gotta be able to take it.
No the issue is so many of these posters are so emotional that they cannot separate their feelings from cause for concern. They assume because you bring up a geography question that "its none of my business" They assume because there are concerns that someone is "hating" or "jealous" or "can't get it done with their own kid" or "wished they were me"
They bring emotion into a sound argument or cause for dialogue. It's sad actually and hopefully their daughters will learn to read better than their parents.
Pro tip as you move up the ladder of soccer you will find that people's tolerance for bullshit, cheating, special favors rapidly dissipates. As you move up you also reach out and rely on others to help guide you and since we all make tons of mistakes all the time this is a great place to maybe get redirected. Am I pushing too hard? Am I missing the boat? I didn't know about that ACLS REHAB trainer etc etc etc..
If you would like to have an intelligent conversation about soccer by all means jump in. If you would like to continue pretending like we are on an episode of "Hood Rat Holla" I suggest you take it elsewhere.
They bring emotion into a sound argument or cause for dialogue. It's sad actually and hopefully their daughters will learn to read better than their parents.
Pro tip as you move up the ladder of soccer you will find that people's tolerance for bullshit, cheating, special favors rapidly dissipates. As you move up you also reach out and rely on others to help guide you and since we all make tons of mistakes all the time this is a great place to maybe get redirected. Am I pushing too hard? Am I missing the boat? I didn't know about that ACLS REHAB trainer etc etc etc..
If you would like to have an intelligent conversation about soccer by all means jump in. If you would like to continue pretending like we are on an episode of "Hood Rat Holla" I suggest you take it elsewhere.
chargerfan
GOLD
You obviously have no idea who I am. Maybe you could verify by DM, but I am not sure you want to "out" yourself after trashing an individual player on a public forum.
chargerfan
GOLD
And feel free to let me know when you have seen me talk negatively about an individual player on here. You're not going to find it.
Alphaomega
SILVER
You're pathetic. "After all you're the adults hiding behind a fake name bashing a 10 yr old's like" Said the man or woman legally named "EXO231" ....what are you stupid or something... lol
Get off your soap box You creepy troll!!
Thanks legally named man or woman troll “Alphaomega”. None of my previous comments were negative so thanks for your input, but you make no sense.
You have a very valid point here, but didn’t this start because alphaomega and chargerfan couldn’t “separate their feelings from cause for concern” Saying “I feel sorry for her…etc” . Their opinions/concerns may have been valid, but they turned it into putting down a player/parent and nowhere did it sound like they were genuinely concerned.
BeepBeep Boop
SILVER ELITE
Re: the instagram, I took a look. Looks like standard speed and strength training to me. I've been physically active all my life and I don't buy the "kids are too young" line. She's not blasting out deadlifts or power cleans. There are girls on my daughter's team that do the same thing.
IDK what level of play your daughters are at, but this isn't surprising to me at all. I'm not a fan of playing in another state, but it's not my daughter, it's not my life, and they can do whatever they want.
IDK what level of play your daughters are at, but this isn't surprising to me at all. I'm not a fan of playing in another state, but it's not my daughter, it's not my life, and they can do whatever they want.
George Gordon
BRONZE
Thank you!
George Gordon
BRONZE
Once again, it was brought to my attention that adults are blogging and going back-and-forth about my daughter. Commenting on what she does, what she has, and where she plays. She's blessed, we are blessed! Thank you guys for your concern. Feel free to contact me any time on any concerns that you may have, but out of respect please don't blog about my daughter or my family! Thank you! I'm at all her games so feel free to come up to me and speak to me if you have a question. Have a nice day!!!
BeepBeep Boop
SILVER ELITE
I've seen him around at the fields and he seems like an approachable guy. Go have a chat!