CalSouth "independent investigation" into breaches of fiduciary duty

No but "fun fact" about DLA Piper: that was the firm that produced the Mitchell Report (on PEDs in baseball).

(Also, the press release has it right but the headline uses "LLC" not the correct "LLP")
 
Cal South grasping for straws after they lost a huge amount of market share and customers since they didn't listen to their customer in the first place.

Already lost and this will do nothing for them as the only ones that will profit are the law types.
 
Cal South's non profit status should be fully audited as a result of trying eliminate or reduce competition and concluding to do so.

CRL, SCNPL and others are run by CS for profit and they show the + profit on the balance sheet. Has Cal South concluded with CSL and there other leagues discriminated, excluded, and/or coerced clubs over many years. This is the first year of open tournaments so I guess that answers that.

Great for customers to see CS using their fees and profit to sue the competition because they can't stand a free open market in a non profit environment
 
lafalafa said:
Cal South grasping for straws after they lost a huge amount of market share and customers since they didn't listen to their customer in the first place.

Already lost and this will do nothing for them as the only ones that will profit are the law types.
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I would like to learn what the "selection" process was for ODP back in the day when they were king of the soccer jungle. How player gets picked and why? I can say 100% the kids that left for greener pasture for GDA got screwed over big time. I bet Rocky can get to the bottom of all this.
 
crush said:
I would like to learn what the "selection" process was for ODP back in the day when they were king of the soccer jungle. How player gets picked and why? I can say 100% the kids that left for greener pasture for GDA got screwed over big time. I bet Rocky can get to the bottom of all this.
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He's done some positive things for the LA community but his ambitions can get the best of him like when he
got beat in the Democratic primary for state DA by Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown after he got caught fibbing in campaign ads that he had gone to Harvard on a football scholarship (there were no football scholarships when Delgadillo attended).
 
lafalafa said:
He's done some positive things for the LA community but his ambitions can get the best of him like when he
got beat in the Democratic primary for state DA by Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown after he got caught fibbing in campaign ads that he had gone to Harvard on a football scholarship (there were no football scholarships when Delgadillo attended).
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Well, he got one it just wasn't for football.
 
Who else looked up "fiduciary", lol:

adjective:
LAW:
involving trust, especially with regard to the relationship between a trustee and a beneficiary.
"the company has a fiduciary duty to shareholders"

noun:
a trustee.
 
Rocky is gonna "shine a light on the misgivings within the business of youth soccer"? :p

Like what? LAUFA DA teams selling roster spots?
 
I recall that when Bob Turner won the election as Cal South Board President the majority of the board resisted. Maybe this investigation will answer the obvious questions raised there.
 
toucan said:
OK, let's try to read between the lines.

Turner apparently left Calsouth and started working for SCDSL. (Note: I don't know Turner.) Calsouth is a governing body, and various leagues pay Calsouth to act as their governing body. So Turner left a governing body to become employed by a league, which had already left Calsouth.

Calsouth has now hired a lawyer to "investigate" certain claims, citing two particular "allegations;" namely, that (1) Turner and the SCDSL "inappropriately" persuaded clubs to move; and (2) "possible" financial inducements were made to the clubs to change leagues. Calsouth writes that it is "saddened" by its need to partner with its law firm, DLA Piper.

This press release appears to be drafted by Calsouth, and not a law firm. It's wording is stupid in some cases, such as use of the term "misgivings" here: "Cal South has a fiduciary duty to every organization, team, coach, and family involved in the Southern California soccer community to shine a light on the misgivings within the business of youth soccer ..." No lawyer would write that. And I cannot think of a time when Calsouth ever investigated any "misgivings" in any of the 20 or so years that I was a coach licensed by Calsouth. This tells me that Calsouth is acting solely on its own behalf without any real interest in its "fiduciary duty" to others. It lost customers, and therefore money. In my view, the only "duty" it acts on is its duty to its bank balance.

Second, Calsouth is trying to make it look like DLA Piper is going to do an independent "investigation," which is a complete crock of ... well, you know. I believe that CalSouth is hoping that DLA Piper will find a tenable basis for an "interference with contract case. " But in California, employees can leave to work for a competitor pretty much whenever they want to do so, and they can take clients with them, and there is no rule saying that they cannot persuade other clients to leave. The main exception occurs when an employee misappropriates confidential information from his old employer and uses it to take away clients. Here, Calsouth seems to allege that Turner contacted a bunch of club executives and talked them into switching leagues. If he did it while employed by Calsouth, that might be actionable. But if he did it after he left, then my guess is that Calsouth doesn't have a case. First, the SCDSL had already left Calsouth before Turner changed his employment. Second, the contact information for pretty much every club president in Calsouth was not confidential; those numbers were listed on the web pages for pretty much every league, including both CSL and SCDSL (now Socal).

In my view, this presser has the ring of desperation and is mostly meant to save face.
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Bob Turner was an elected officer of Cal South. I don't know how that colors his status as an "employee".
 
FilpoFutbol9 said:
Rocky is gonna "shine a light on the misgivings within the business of youth soccer"? :p

Like what? LAUFA DA teams selling roster spots?
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A few facts that should be considered.
1. Rocky DelGadillo is President of LAUFA. A club that plays in the Socal league. The league he has been brought in to investigate. LAUFA does not participate in a Cal South sanctioned league.
2. Bob Turner was never an employee of Cal South.
3. Any "investigation" of a league that is not under Cal South jurisdiction means nothing. Socal doesn't report to Cal South for anything. This isn't a lawsuit, because there is nothing to sue over. It's TF at Cal South trying to save the Titanic.
4. At the very least, this is Cal South committing slander and defamation towards BT and the Socal league and both BT and Socal have grounds to file an actual lawsuit against Cal South. Not the other way around. TF, Cal South and every board member that bought into this crock of $%&$ should be sued. Then removed.
5. This was a scare tactic on behalf of Cal South that has backfired right back into their faces. No one cares about Cal South anymore. Sad but true.
 
independent investigation into the events surrounding the abrupt departure of its former President Bob Turner and his subsequent hiring as the new Executive Director of a competing youth soccer organization, Southern California Developmental Soccer League, now known and marketed as “SoCal”. It is alleged that Turner – along with SoCal – inappropriately persuaded certain youth soccer teams, coaches, and youth players to leave Cal South and to move to the newly rebranded league, SoCal. It is further alleged that Turner and SoCal offered possible financial and other inducements in an effort to effectuate the movement of teams between leagues.

I've had to sign a number of documents with my company that states I won't try to steal business from them if I were to ever leave. If that is what occurred with Turner then that could be the legal issue.

This is the last year for my daughter in club soccer before playing in college. I completely agree that SoCal league now has a better set of clubs than in Cal South. My question would be is SoCal offering anything better than what Cal South was offering?
 
dreamz said:
A few facts that should be considered.
1. Rocky DelGadillo is President of LAUFA. A club that plays in the Socal league. The league he has been brought in to investigate. LAUFA does not participate in a Cal South sanctioned league.
2. Bob Turner was never an employee of Cal South.
3. Any "investigation" of a league that is not under Cal South jurisdiction means nothing. Socal doesn't report to Cal South for anything. This isn't a lawsuit, because there is nothing to sue over. It's TF at Cal South trying to save the Titanic.
4. At the very least, this is Cal South committing slander and defamation towards BT and the Socal league and both BT and Socal have grounds to file an actual lawsuit against Cal South. Not the other way around. TF, Cal South and every board member that bought into this crock of $%&$ should be sued. Then removed.
5. This was a scare tactic on behalf of Cal South that has backfired right back into their faces. No one cares about Cal South anymore. Sad but true.
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I'm saying that Rocky investigating financial stuff is f*ing hilarious
 
espola said:
Bob Turner was an elected officer of Cal South. I don't know how that colors his status as an "employee".
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He was also the President at Presidio, from which he resigned about the same time. Questions about breach of fiduciary obligation likely turn on whether he started to talking to clubs before he resigned.
 
JabroniBeater805 said:
LOL. What is the end goal here for Cal South?
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General publicity and public sentiment maybe if the outcome is a report, or perhaps some kind of political response from a higher governing body.

There is no indication of a lawsuit in the announcement. The announcement is also a plea for cooperation which it needs to have without subpoena power behind the investigation. It also creates some context for a perception of legitimacy between the announcement and the prior positions of the attorneys taking the lead, which can help with getting cooperation.

CSL seemed well enough last year. But this year it really doesn't seem to have the critical mass it needs to provide an equivalent product. This is unfortunate because the players benefit from the competition between two local leagues.
 
dk_b said:
No but "fun fact" about DLA Piper: that was the firm that produced the Mitchell Report (on PEDs in baseball).

(Also, the press release has it right but the headline uses "LLC" not the correct "LLP")
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And the headline forgot the necessary noun...should be fiduciary duty.
 
Bob Turner stepped down from Presideo to run Cal Soth. A few months into running Cal South he stepped down stating heath and time with family. A few months went by, and he was now a board member of SoCal. About a month followed by majority (98%) San Diego clubs jumped to SoCal.
 
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